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I-376 to be Extended...Eventually

Started by PAHighways, February 19, 2009, 10:27:37 PM

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CanesFan27

Is route numbering logic really needed to be adhered to anymore?  With so many changes to routes being bypassed, decommissioned, extended etc.? 

With so many route numbers taken in PA - you have to throw the 'logic' or 'rules' out the window. 


treichard

Unused numbers are plentiful and the need for new numbers is rather low, so it's likely that a strict numbering system could still work for new routes.  PennDOT uses some system rather than random numbers, but it's not the original system nor a very strict system it seems. It's rather hard to predict what the next state route number would be.

I would have guessed that PA 260 would be the new route if I knew it'd be associated with PA 60, but I suppose the "76" in I-376 and PA 760 was somehow better in PennDOT's eyes.
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vdeane

Maybe they use the same logic that went into I-99 and US 400...
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PAHighways

I took 60 from the Clinton interchange to Robinson yesterday and so far no changes, not even to the trailblazers.  Business PA 60 is still signed as such.  New exit numbers are posted as far as Churchill, probably due to the fact that 376 is being rehabbed from Penn Hills east.

Mr_Northside

I also noticed that all the new I-376 signs that have been put up, either by themselves or on the BGS's downtown & out the Parkway west for just the re-numbering project are the more traditonal shaped shields.
While the contractor doing the current Parkway East rehab from P.Hills <-> Monroeville is putting up new shields using that "bubble" shape. (Which I don't particularly care for).
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CanesFan27

End/Begin signs are now up at the new end of PA 60 at I-376/US 22/30 in Robinson.  Jason Reighard sent some photos over to me today.

http://surewhynotnow.blogspot.com/2009/11/pa-60-officially-truncated.html

rickmastfan67

Good to see PennDOT is making some progress.  All they need for that I-376 sign in the picture is a "JCT" sign above it that is blue.

CanesFan27

Catching up...

Denny Pine sent some photos along of signs at the Montour Run Interchange.

http://surewhynotnow.blogspot.com/2009/11/more-i-376-signing-updates.html

njroadhorse

Parkway East is renumbered and it's attack of the killer Clearview!!!!
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Quote from: agentsteel53 on September 30, 2009, 04:04:11 PM
I-99... the Glen Quagmire of interstate routes??

PAHighways

Quote from: njroadhorse on November 25, 2009, 06:43:18 PM
Parkway East is renumbered and it's attack of the killer Clearview!!!!

Between the Turnpike and Churchill?  When I was on it on November 9, they were renumbered to the latter.

njroadhorse

Quote from: PAHighways on November 26, 2009, 12:03:56 AM
Quote from: njroadhorse on November 25, 2009, 06:43:18 PM
Parkway East is renumbered and it's attack of the killer Clearview!!!!

Between the Turnpike and Churchill?  When I was on it on November 9, they were renumbered to the latter.
And before that too.  At least from Exit 3 to the PA Turnpike is Clearview, with the exception of the PA 48 interchange.
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Quote from: agentsteel53 on September 30, 2009, 04:04:11 PM
I-99... the Glen Quagmire of interstate routes??

Mr_Northside

#211
There's a couple of places that old signs are still in use (with a new tab), but a lot of signs have been replaced.  I think they're done Eastbound.

Westbound they still need to do between just after Edgewood/Swissvale <-> downtown.  (Actually, on the way back home last night I noticed they had put up a new "Old Exit 5" for Squirrel Hill, despite the fact they hadn't changed the actual tabs yet.  Then the pole for the next sign for the Squirrel Hill exit still had the "Old Exit 8" sign from the sequential-mileage conversion.  
Westbound they've also mostly installed new signs (where they have changed exit #'s so far), but 2 signs that they just added new tabs 2 are the PA-130/Churchill (Exit Only) signs.  These signs are looking like they should have been replaced as well.
No new mile-markers on the Parkway East yet either.

And as a side note, I like the replacement signs (Eastbound) for the Turnpike.  They added the destinations of Ohio & Harrisburg.  The old ones were just BGS's with a I-76 shield and a Penna-Turnpike Keystone (and distance to).
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PAHighways

#212
There were no 376 related changes anywhere on 60 when I was on it coming back from Columbus on the 9th.  Monday I have to travel to the Penguins' front office to pick up a donation for the LHHC's fundraiser on 12/12, so I might take a ride out to PIA if the rain isn't too bad.

PAHighways

Still no IBL-376 signage, but I-376 shields have been installed on PA 60 with 376 at the top of the totem pole and PA 60 playing second fiddle.  I-376 assemblies are now present at the entrance ramps on the interchanges west of 22/30.

PAHighways

Anyway, back to the real topic.

I just received an e-mail from a contributor to Pennsylvania Highways who found some IBL-376 assemblies on University Boulevard at its southern terminus.  Just as on the mainline, they are in tandem with the old Business PA 60 assemblies.

rickmastfan67

Thanks for the heads up.  Hopefully I'll be able to get over there in the next week or so and get some pictures for everybody.  Been having major car problems.

CanesFan27


Mr_Northside

I suppose eventually there will be the overhead sign structure that features some unique shields at the Westbound split... With the not-seen-hardly-at-all-in-this-region Business interstate shield, and the adjacent BGS that features the "To" with the PA TPK 576 shield.
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rickmastfan67

Quote from: PAHighways on December 03, 2009, 08:47:03 PM
I just received an e-mail from a contributor to Pennsylvania Highways who found some IBL-376 assemblies on University Boulevard at its southern terminus.  Just as on the mainline, they are in tandem with the old Business PA 60 assemblies.

Have pictures.  Will be posting later today once they are resized and uploaded and other things.

PAHighways

Quote from: rickmastfan67 on December 06, 2009, 04:44:43 PM
Quote from: PAHighways on December 03, 2009, 08:47:03 PM
I just received an e-mail from a contributor to Pennsylvania Highways who found some IBL-376 assemblies on University Boulevard at its southern terminus.  Just as on the mainline, they are in tandem with the old Business PA 60 assemblies.

Have pictures.  Will be posting later today once they are resized and uploaded and other things.

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LeftyJR

I would say almost all of the I-279 shields are replaced as of this weekend.  In addition, the new MM are in place as well.  They have them signed every 1/2 mile.

Mr_Northside

They haven't gotten to the Parkway East yet with the new milemarkers..
Once they do, THIS mistake will be rectified.  (I'm not sure how long it's been like that, but it's been at least 2 years since I first noticed it.)


Of course, that should (have) been Mile 1.  They could have at least painted a dot and pretend it was 1.0
(also, it seems Google prefers calling that US 30... which is technically correct)
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LeftyJR

Quote from: LeftyJR on December 07, 2009, 11:59:38 AM
I would say almost all of the I-279 shields are replaced as of this weekend.  In addition, the new MM are in place as well.  They have them signed every 1/2 mile.

I said old 279, which is, of course, the Parkway West.  Sorry for the confusion.

PAHighways

Google has finally gotten around to changing the I-279 shields to I-376, and 376 is only designated as far as I-79.  The exit numbers are still 279's.

rickmastfan67

#224
Quote from: PAHighways on December 26, 2009, 09:32:10 PM
Google has finally gotten around to changing the I-279 shields to I-376, and 376 is only designated as far as I-79.  The exit numbers are still 279's.

Time to start sending in error reports then with links to my pictures with the new exit numbers. LOL.

Also, the exit numbers are also still not updated on the original segment of I-376 in Google.

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Also, they have "partially" updated I-279's exit numbers.  They now have the new numbers going SB, however the NB numbers are still the old ones..... Google, doing only half jobs since 1998. :P



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