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Re: Corridor H
« Reply #1125 on: September 20, 2019, 11:12:39 AM »

An informational workshop is being held about updates to Corridor H, which now includes a truck bypass of Thomas: Handout
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Re: Corridor H
« Reply #1126 on: September 20, 2019, 05:49:19 PM »

An informational workshop is being held about updates to Corridor H, which now includes a truck bypass of Thomas: Handout
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Looks like they're opting for a mostly new-terrain route.  It would also be likely that US 219 would be moved to the new Thomas bypass and intersect Corridor H/US 48 near Davis and subsequently follow it all the way to north of Elkins, where it presently departs the corridor.  But this alignment will entail a rather impressive bridge over Blackwater Gorge -- I'd certainly like to see any forthcoming plans for this structure.  But the start date of 2031 is a bit discouraging if not unexpected, considering this corridor's history. 
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Re: Corridor H
« Reply #1127 on: September 20, 2019, 08:47:33 PM »

An informational workshop is being held about updates to Corridor H, which now includes a truck bypass of Thomas: Handout
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Looks like they're opting for a mostly new-terrain route.  It would also be likely that US 219 would be moved to the new Thomas bypass and intersect Corridor H/US 48 near Davis and subsequently follow it all the way to north of Elkins, where it presently departs the corridor.  But this alignment will entail a rather impressive bridge over Blackwater Gorge -- I'd certainly like to see any forthcoming plans for this structure.  But the start date of 2031 is a bit discouraging if not unexpected, considering this corridor's history.

There's a decent amount of truck traffic on 219 between Parsons and Thomas now, and I'm sure truckers would appreciate a through route that takes them off that mountain. Looks like the new route will obliterate that route, but trucks still won't want to get off Corridor H there and go down to the stop sign at Thomas where they have to turn left at a T-intersection. And I'm sure the residents and businesses (many tourist-themed) in Thomas wouldn't want more heavy trucks rumbling down those one-way streets that turn much of the business district into an island in the asphalt. So the truck bypass is definitely warranted. I'm guessing a grade-separated interchange at what will be WV 32/US 48/US 219 (where WV 93 currently ends) and can't really tell, but an at-grade where WV 72 joins/departs at the foot of aforesaid mountain north of downtown Parsons.
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Re: Corridor H
« Reply #1128 on: September 21, 2019, 04:10:33 PM »

Looks like they're opting for a mostly new-terrain route.  It would also be likely that US 219 would be moved to the new Thomas bypass and intersect Corridor H/US 48 near Davis and subsequently follow it all the way to north of Elkins, where it presently departs the corridor.  But this alignment will entail a rather impressive bridge over Blackwater Gorge -- I'd certainly like to see any forthcoming plans for this structure.  But the start date of 2031 is a bit discouraging if not unexpected, considering this corridor's history.

Agree that U.S. 219 should be on Corridor H as much as it possibly can be. 

Given the massive structure that is under construction that will carry Corridor H over Haddix Run south of Parsons near the community of Moore, I do not think WVDOT is deterred  by large bridges on this project (there are also several on the eastern segment).

I think a change in the balance of power in Washington might speed that 2031 date up by quite a bit.  That is where the constraint is.

There's a decent amount of truck traffic on 219 between Parsons and Thomas now, and I'm sure truckers would appreciate a through route that takes them off that mountain. Looks like the new route will obliterate that route, but trucks still won't want to get off Corridor H there and go down to the stop sign at Thomas where they have to turn left at a T-intersection. And I'm sure the residents and businesses (many tourist-themed) in Thomas wouldn't want more heavy trucks rumbling down those one-way streets that turn much of the business district into an island in the asphalt. So the truck bypass is definitely warranted. I'm guessing a grade-separated interchange at what will be WV 32/US 48/US 219 (where WV 93 currently ends) and can't really tell, but an at-grade where WV 72 joins/departs at the foot of aforesaid mountain north of downtown Parsons.

I have read about a U.S. 219 "bypass" of Thomas before, but never seen it on a map until now. This is a good idea, as it keeps the heavy truck traffic out of the historic district of Thomas.

While I think a lot of the truck drivers that venture out onto U.S. 219 today between Parsons and Thomas are familiar with the route and its dangers, I am confident that most of them would be happy to be on a new ADHS corridor highway instead.
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Re: Corridor H
« Reply #1129 on: September 21, 2019, 10:38:44 PM »

An informational workshop is being held about updates to Corridor H, which now includes a truck bypass of Thomas: Handout
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Looks like they're opting for a mostly new-terrain route.  It would also be likely that US 219 would be moved to the new Thomas bypass and intersect Corridor H/US 48 near Davis and subsequently follow it all the way to north of Elkins, where it presently departs the corridor.  But this alignment will entail a rather impressive bridge over Blackwater Gorge -- I'd certainly like to see any forthcoming plans for this structure.  But the start date of 2031 is a bit discouraging if not unexpected, considering this corridor's history.

The route goes over the North Fork Blackwater River, not Blackwater Canyon. From where the crossing is planned, I expect it to be a run-of-the-mill girder structure, albeit a taller one.
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Re: Corridor H
« Reply #1130 on: December 06, 2019, 05:32:37 PM »

The link to the handout on the WVDOT web site is broken...

What cross-section will Corridor H have across the North Fork and along the right-of-way to Hendricks? The map on the Corridor H website is too small to see any detail about the cross-section and right-of-way width.

The map also shows that Corridor H’s currently proposed alignment comes very close to the existing route of US 219. If this alignment is retained, is this likely to be a stopping point where the construction of this segment is staged?
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Re: Corridor H
« Reply #1131 on: December 06, 2019, 08:27:55 PM »

A friend of mine was returning home to Kentucky from DC, and her GPS routed her along US 48. I need to ask her what kind of device she was using. Apparently, enough of the route is done to convince the algorithms in those devices that Corridor H is an appropriate through route, instead of using I-68 or I-64 to get across the ECD.
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Re: Corridor H
« Reply #1132 on: December 06, 2019, 10:34:24 PM »

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Re: Corridor H
« Reply #1133 on: December 07, 2019, 05:31:13 PM »

Speaking of: Apple Maps has the latest aerials of Corridor H starting at Thomas/Davis
Screenshots please? Chrome and Edge both redirect to Google Maps.
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Re: Corridor H
« Reply #1134 on: December 07, 2019, 06:12:08 PM »

Speaking of: Apple Maps has the latest aerials of Corridor H starting at Thomas/Davis
Screenshots please? Chrome and Edge both redirect to Google Maps.

Must be an iDevice thing, because I didn't know Apple had maps online that could be viewed in a browser. I use a Mac (but an old OS) and it redirected to Google Maps in Chrome. I guess I could try Safari and see what happens, but it's an old version.
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Re: Corridor H
« Reply #1135 on: December 07, 2019, 07:10:05 PM »

I'm using Chrome but it prompts to use the Apple Maps app in macOS. I can't screenshot the entire route - but if you use the Apple Maps app and scroll to Davis/Thomas, you can trace out the route.
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Re: Corridor H
« Reply #1136 on: December 07, 2019, 09:58:46 PM »

The Tucker County Assessor has 2019 imagery showing both the current end at Davis/Thomas and some of the construction underway for the Kerens-Parsons segment. It's available at https://www.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=044c027bd8d04ac5857b3f53b776ccf8
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Re: Corridor H
« Reply #1138 on: January 13, 2020, 02:04:12 PM »

That's one way to get Corridor H finished to Strasburg.   I thought at first this was a story from "The Onion", but I guess it's legit.
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Re: Corridor H
« Reply #1139 on: January 13, 2020, 02:05:15 PM »

^ Not necessarily.  Strasburg is in Shenandoah County.
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Re: Corridor H
« Reply #1140 on: January 13, 2020, 03:44:49 PM »

That's one way to get Corridor H finished to Strasburg.   I thought at first this was a story from "The Onion", but I guess it's legit.

^ Not necessarily.  Strasburg is in Shenandoah County.


Well, it would get the mountainous part at the state line crossing done, anyway.
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Re: Corridor H
« Reply #1141 on: January 13, 2020, 08:48:37 PM »

That's one way to get Corridor H finished to Strasburg.   I thought at first this was a story from "The Onion", but I guess it's legit.

^ Not necessarily.  Strasburg is in Shenandoah County.


Well, it would get the mountainous part at the state line crossing done, anyway.
Could US 48/Corridor H be re-aligned onto a new alignment bypassing the part in Shenandoah County?
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Re: Corridor H
« Reply #1142 on: January 14, 2020, 07:01:49 AM »

That's one way to get Corridor H finished to Strasburg.   I thought at first this was a story from "The Onion", but I guess it's legit.

^ Not necessarily.  Strasburg is in Shenandoah County.


Well, it would get the mountainous part at the state line crossing done, anyway.
Could US 48/Corridor H be re-aligned onto a new alignment bypassing the part in Shenandoah County?

Topographically speaking this could be done to arc it around to meet I-66/81 interchange...

Fixed quote.  -Mark
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Re: Corridor H
« Reply #1143 on: January 14, 2020, 02:58:07 PM »

That's one way to get Corridor H finished to Strasburg.   I thought at first this was a story from "The Onion", but I guess it's legit.

^ Not necessarily.  Strasburg is in Shenandoah County.


Well, it would get the mountainous part at the state line crossing done, anyway.
Could US 48/Corridor H be re-aligned onto a new alignment bypassing the part in Shenandoah County?

Topographically speaking this could be done to arc it around to meet I-66/81 interchange...

Fixed quote.  -Mark


I think froggie's comment earlier in this thread is probably accurate as to why it's unlikely ever to connect directly to Exit 300. The reference to "address[ing]the merging" refers to a prior comment from hbelkins about how tying Corridor H into Exit 300 would allow for rebuilding that interchange to eliminate the left-side merge from I-66 to southbound I-81.

Given a lengthy mining operation, plus the location of Ceder Creek, north of Strasburg (running from Exit 298 to northwest of Middletown), a direct Corridor H connection to the I-66/I-81 interchange is no longer feasible.  What would be feasible is a straighter connection between US 48/VA 55 and I-81, meeting at the curve on I-81 just northeast of their existing interchange.  Widening I-81 between Corridor H and I-66 could be tied into such a project, and would reduce the need to rebuilt the 66/81 interchange to address the merging.
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Re: Corridor H
« Reply #1144 on: January 16, 2020, 04:25:22 PM »

Does the eastern portion of Corridor H from Wardensville to Interstate 81 in Strasburg have a construction date yet? I know construction on this segment was deferred in 2003, but has the process been restarted to design and construct this segment of Corridor H?
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Re: Corridor H
« Reply #1145 on: January 16, 2020, 08:50:09 PM »

Does the eastern portion of Corridor H from Wardensville to Interstate 81 in Strasburg have a construction date yet? I know construction on this segment was deferred in 2003, but has the process been restarted to design and construct this segment of Corridor H?
As far as I'm aware, there's no current plans at least on the Virginia side.
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Re: Corridor H
« Reply #1146 on: January 16, 2020, 10:33:51 PM »

Does the eastern portion of Corridor H from Wardensville to Interstate 81 in Strasburg have a construction date yet? I know construction on this segment was deferred in 2003, but has the process been restarted to design and construct this segment of Corridor H?
As far as I'm aware, there's no current plans at least on the Virginia side.
Are there proposals, such as how big the road will be? I'm essentially asking if it's supposed to be a two lane road (it already is), a four lane expressway, or a four lane freeway.
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Re: Corridor H
« Reply #1147 on: January 17, 2020, 07:46:41 AM »

    US 48 WEST            US 48 EAST
        DAVIS                MOOREFIELD
        <----                       ---->

       Back to the highway again!

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Re: Corridor H
« Reply #1148 on: January 17, 2020, 09:16:48 AM »

Does the eastern portion of Corridor H from Wardensville to Interstate 81 in Strasburg have a construction date yet? I know construction on this segment was deferred in 2003, but has the process been restarted to design and construct this segment of Corridor H?
As far as I'm aware, there's no current plans at least on the Virginia side.
Are there proposals, such as how big the road will be? I'm essentially asking if it's supposed to be a two lane road (it already is), a four lane expressway, or a four lane freeway.

West Virginia's assumption is certainly that Virginia will build a 4-lane at-grade expressway.
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Re: Corridor H
« Reply #1149 on: January 17, 2020, 10:35:38 AM »

Does the eastern portion of Corridor H from Wardensville to Interstate 81 in Strasburg have a construction date yet? I know construction on this segment was deferred in 2003, but has the process been restarted to design and construct this segment of Corridor H?
As far as I'm aware, there's no current plans at least on the Virginia side.
Are there proposals, such as how big the road will be? I'm essentially asking if it's supposed to be a two lane road (it already is), a four lane expressway, or a four lane freeway.

West Virginia's assumption is certainly that Virginia will build a 4-lane at-grade expressway.

Nothing regarding VA 55 west of Strasburg is present as best I can tell in VTRANS 2040 except more park and ride at I-66 and safety improvements at 2 intersections west of I-66.

VA 55 was not in VTRANS 2030 or 2035 either...
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