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Re: License Plate News
« Reply #1200 on: September 30, 2019, 07:33:04 PM »

I don't think it's unreasonable to think we could come up with a plate design that could last an 50 or 60 years. Embossing might be a consideration, as would be avoiding the use of highly-stylised designs with colors that could wear at various paces.
Paint and/or plastic do not hold well that long, especially under dust bombardment at highway speed. I can envision some stainless/chrome designs, but the price would be non-negligible. An option to have plates preserved (illegal in NY) would be to have disposable plastic covers on the plate, polycarbonate or such. Defeats the purpose of forever plate, though.
And like many other things, cost-effective solutions wouldn't be the ones with the longest lifetime.
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Re: License Plate News
« Reply #1201 on: September 30, 2019, 09:27:55 PM »

Correct, they stay with the owner in Wisconsin.

And are you required to use them on the next car?

No.

'Have plates in good condition?' is a question on the form.  If yes, then WisDOT will let you use an older number and set of current design plates that you might have, saving the state the bother of having to stamp out a set of new ones.

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Re: License Plate News
« Reply #1202 on: October 01, 2019, 09:12:37 AM »


So what's the default option in your state when you buy a new car?


In WV, and I think this is the most common system nationwide, the dealer puts the old plate on the new car and charges a small fee.  There is no other option.  Most new car dealers now can even print the accompanying registration card and save the DMV the postage.   Temporary plates are only used if the buyer has no valid plate to put on the car, such as a family adding a second car. 

If you want a new plate you ask for one from the DMV at renewal time, when it is free.  Car dealers have no role in the matter. 
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Re: License Plate News
« Reply #1203 on: October 01, 2019, 10:33:05 AM »

In WV, and I think this is the most common system nationwide, the dealer puts the old plate on the new car and charges a small fee.  There is no other option.  Most new car dealers now can even print the accompanying registration card and save the DMV the postage.   Temporary plates are only used if the buyer has no valid plate to put on the car, such as a family adding a second car. 

If you want a new plate you ask for one from the DMV at renewal time, when it is free.  Car dealers have no role in the matter.
I've purchased cars from dealerships in MA, NJ, PA & MD and have experienced the following.

In MA, one can do what is known as a 2-day temporary transfer of an existing/current/active plate onto the new/additional vehicle.  No RMV involvement is needed at the point of sale but the plate being used needs to be currently active.  Such allows the vehicle to be legally driven by the owner to their residence.  After such happens, the owner has to go to the RMV with the vehicle purchase paperwork, proof of insurance and either apply for a new registration/plate or apply to transfer the existing registration/plate from the prior vehicle to the newly-purchased one. 

Note: for one of my vehicle purchases in MA that was to be registered in PA, an active MA plate (my brother's) per the 2-day temporary transfer, was used to bring the car home.  Once in PA, I went to authorized tag place to transfer my existing active PA plate (the previous car was traded in) onto my newly-purchased car.  I mailed the MA plate used to bring the car home back to my brother.

For my vehicle purchases in both NJ & MD, such involved the vehicles being ultimately registered in PA.  A temporary, cardboard tag was issued, good for 20-25 days depending on which state, until I received a new PA plate from the dealerships in the mail.  In those two cases, both dealerships in NJ & MD corresponded w/PennDOT's DMV division in order to obtain and mail me the new PA plates. 

In one of the two-above cases, I originally had planned to transfer my old/existing but still active plate onto the new vehicle (the prior vehicle was totaled in an accident); but the clerk at the dealership (in MD) indirectly discouraged such (I guess due to additional paperwork, I don't know).  So I received a new PA plate/registration in the mail and that was that.

Long story short: car dealers having a role or no role regarding vehicle registrations via DMV/RMV is dependent upon which state(s) one's dealing with.
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Re: License Plate News
« Reply #1204 on: October 01, 2019, 11:20:01 AM »

Long story short: car dealers having a role or no role regarding vehicle registrations via DMV/RMV is dependent upon which state(s) one's dealing with.
NY: for in-state purchases, at least at larger dealerships, by default they ask you to provide an active registration information along with insurance documents and unbolt old plates from trade-in (or you can bring in old plates in case of private sale of old car)  at the time of delivery. There is a financial incentive for doing that as refund for old registration is pretty limited.
Dealer issuing new plates on behalf of DMV is an option, mostly when there is no old registration. 
You get a temporary sticker for either option, permanent one is mailed by DMV to registration address.
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Re: License Plate News
« Reply #1205 on: October 01, 2019, 11:43:14 AM »

So what's the default option in your state when you buy a new car?

I don't think I really have a particularly helpful response here. My only car purchase occurred in MD; transferring the plate from the old car wouldn't have been an option regardless, because it was a GA plate (I had just moved about 5 months earlier). I didn't receive a temporary tag either; the dealer actually had a proper MD plate that was put on the car immediately and remained there until I moved back to GA.
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Re: License Plate News
« Reply #1206 on: October 01, 2019, 11:54:33 AM »


So what's the default option in your state when you buy a new car?

The default in every vehicle purchase I've been involved with was for the seller to ask if I had plates to transfer or if I wanted new plates, even if I didn't bring a vehicle to trade. No one has ever tried to force me to take new plates.
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Re: License Plate News
« Reply #1207 on: October 01, 2019, 02:46:41 PM »

I've had the same license plate since 2012.  It's now on vehicle #3.  In 2016, in fact, we drove from Kansas to Tennessee to buy a used Pathfinder.  When we got to the dealership, we took the Kansas plate off the old car, tossed it in our folder with the dealership paperwork, drove back to Kansas on a Tennessee temporary tag, and then later transferred the Kansas plate onto the new car after paying the tax and registration fee.  We got the amount of time left (unused) on the previous vehicle's registration refunded to us as well.
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Re: License Plate News
« Reply #1208 on: October 01, 2019, 06:19:01 PM »

In PA, the oldest license plates on vehicles date back to 2000... the first year of the original-style blue/white/yellow plates.   
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Re: License Plate News
« Reply #1209 on: October 07, 2019, 11:31:09 AM »

I've had the same license plate since 2012.  It's now on vehicle #3.  In 2016, in fact, we drove from Kansas to Tennessee to buy a used Pathfinder.  When we got to the dealership, we took the Kansas plate off the old car, tossed it in our folder with the dealership paperwork, drove back to Kansas on a Tennessee temporary tag, and then later transferred the Kansas plate onto the new car after paying the tax and registration fee.  We got the amount of time left (unused) on the previous vehicle's registration refunded to us as well.

My current Kansas tag is on vehicle #3 as well.

In Kansas, vehicle registration cannot be processed at the dealership - you will have a "60 day" tag affixed to your vehicle. Depending on the dealer (or if the previous owner had a lien on the vehicle) it may take a bit for the title paperwork to be received. Obviously, you can't transfer plates or get new ones until you get the paperwork. Also, if it's a used car from out-of-state, it will likely need a VIN inspection.

As kphoger noted, if the plate is transferred, you do receive pro rata credit for Property taxes and registration on the previous vehicle. Likewise, taxes and registration on the new vehicle will also be pro rated. When I bought me previous car (2013 Sentra) in April 2016, I was given the option to go ahead and re-up to July 2017 - in effect, I paid 15 months taxes on the Sentra the first time around. The Sentra was totaled in June 2019 in a car-deer collision, and when it came time to transfer the plates to the new car (2019 Impreza) I was already due for renewal, so there was no pro rata involved - I basically paid a years taxes on the Impreza (from July 2019 to July 2020).
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Re: License Plate News
« Reply #1210 on: October 09, 2019, 12:22:16 PM »

In MA, one can do what is known as a 2-day temporary transfer of an existing/current/active plate onto the new/additional vehicle.  No RMV involvement is needed at the point of sale but the plate being used needs to be currently active.  Such allows the vehicle to be legally driven by the owner to their residence.  After such happens, the owner has to go to the RMV with the vehicle purchase paperwork, proof of insurance and either apply for a new registration/plate or apply to transfer the existing registration/plate from the prior vehicle to the newly-purchased one.

For the last two vehicle purchases I made in MA (2004 and 2011), the dealers handled everything, including printing the new registration and calling my insurance agent.  No run to the RMV was necessary.
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Re: License Plate News
« Reply #1211 on: October 10, 2019, 12:57:51 PM »

In MA, one can do what is known as a 2-day temporary transfer of an existing/current/active plate onto the new/additional vehicle.  No RMV involvement is needed at the point of sale but the plate being used needs to be currently active.  Such allows the vehicle to be legally driven by the owner to their residence.  After such happens, the owner has to go to the RMV with the vehicle purchase paperwork, proof of insurance and either apply for a new registration/plate or apply to transfer the existing registration/plate from the prior vehicle to the newly-purchased one.
For the last two vehicle purchases I made in MA (2004 and 2011), the dealers handled everything, including printing the new registration and calling my insurance agent.  No run to the RMV was necessary.
Such wasn't always the case; at least from 1990(?) and earlier.
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Re: License Plate News
« Reply #1212 on: October 10, 2019, 01:36:40 PM »

Well... To begin with, in NY plates follow the owner, not the car. Given there are some 90+-year-old drivers making the news -  if not for a mandatory replacement, some 70-75-year-old plates would happen. Moreover, such ancient plates would become a symbol of status - as it happened in MA - and people would go to great lengths to keep those.

Sorry, I didn't realize NYS had such strange licence plate rules. Doesn't make my point moot everywhere else.

In other jurisdictions, plates stay with the car forever, until it is sold, or until the plate is too old. Custom or "antique" plates can be traded amongst owners, but not regular plates. At least not in most states that I've seen.

Pretty sure they stay with the owner in Wisconsin as well.

Also Michigan.

Likewise in Illinois.  When you buy a new car, trading in your old car, the default is to simply transfer the plates to the new vehicle.  Mine date from 2001, and this is the third vehicle they have been on.
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Re: License Plate News
« Reply #1213 on: October 10, 2019, 03:20:53 PM »

The Arizona Cxxyyyy series plates are going fast. I think Arizona is due for a redesign and the Dxxyyyy series would be a good place to start.
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« Reply #1214 on: October 11, 2019, 05:53:25 PM »

The Arizona Cxxyyyy series plates are going fast. I think Arizona is due for a redesign and the Dxxyyyy series would be a good place to start.

Did AZ's seven-digit plates start with AAA0000? WA is on track to hit CAA0000 within the next few years. Started with A, now on B, etc.
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Re: License Plate News
« Reply #1215 on: October 15, 2019, 01:51:43 PM »

Did AZ's seven-digit plates start with AAA0000?

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Re: License Plate News
« Reply #1216 on: November 10, 2019, 06:54:04 PM »

https://www.denverpost.com/2019/10/28/colorado-license-plates-green-mountains-white-sky/

There’s a chance Colorado might switch back to green mountains with a white sky in 2021
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Re: License Plate News
« Reply #1217 on: November 19, 2019, 08:02:31 PM »

I just got new Colorado plates for my company vehicle -- FWIW, Colorado has now moved from 3-letter/3-number combos to ABC-D12 formats.  Still has the dash in the middle of the sequence, though.
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« Reply #1218 on: November 28, 2019, 04:24:24 PM »

We were talking about license plates that were old a page or two back. I don't remember exactly, but I believe I mentioned that old license plates were fairly common in Washington State. I spotted one that I believe may be the oldest that I've ever seen (1941 Truck plate). WA allows old plates like these, as long as the owner maintains readability. The actual plate number isn't what's listed on the plate, but rather an extra code on the registration (actual plate number is whatever plate was automatically issued with the registration, IIRC). Throws off out of state police on occasion.

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« Reply #1219 on: February 11, 2020, 08:53:55 PM »

The new white-on-blue Ontario plates came out at the start of the month: https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/ontario-s-new-licence-plates-hit-the-road-here-s-what-you-need-to-know-1.4795049

Here's a photo from this article.


So far I've only seen two on the road. It's exciting to see a design change since they've been basically the same my whole life. However, I wish they stuck with embossed plates and I think it would have made more sense to keep "Ontario" capitalized to match the slogan.
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Re: License Plate News
« Reply #1220 on: February 12, 2020, 12:18:09 AM »

Damn. I really liked "Yours to Discover". Something really classy about it. The new motto seems like a rewording of that silly "Open for Business" slogan plastered on the welcome signs.
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Re: License Plate News
« Reply #1221 on: February 12, 2020, 11:38:14 AM »

I know this maybe confusing, but it's a very complicated system. I was curious what each state was doing in terms of license plate registration and inspection stickers. You have states that are rear plate-only, some have stickers on the windshield, some on the front plate, some back, some both, etc. I made a half-assed attempt to visualize this. The purpose was to understand what everyone was doing. Hawaii was the most complicated and couldn't figure it out because it varies on a number of factors.

States have removed or reduced sticker requirements to save money, and this was to sort of demonstrate an incentive for other states to do that too.

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Re: License Plate News
« Reply #1222 on: February 12, 2020, 01:20:22 PM »

IIRC, both DE & FL do not have annual auto inspections; so such would not have inspection stickers on the windshields.

PA got rid of their plate registration stickers about 2 years ago; but such is still a rear-plate-only state. 
Depending on which county a PA vehicle is registered in, such can have two inspection stickers placed next to each other: one for the annual safety inspection (all counties) and one for the annual emissions testing (in some counties w/certain vehicles being exempt).
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Re: License Plate News
« Reply #1223 on: February 12, 2020, 01:35:45 PM »

I know this maybe confusing, but it's a very complicated system. I was curious what each state was doing in terms of license plate registration and inspection stickers. You have states that are rear plate-only, some have stickers on the windshield, some on the front plate, some back, some both, etc. I made a half-assed attempt to visualize this. The purpose was to understand what everyone was doing. Hawaii was the most complicated and couldn't figure it out because it varies on a number of factors.

States have removed or reduced sticker requirements to save money, and this was to sort of demonstrate an incentive for other states to do that too.


TN and OK show both no front plate, but front plate sticker.... I am a bit confused
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Re: License Plate News
« Reply #1224 on: February 12, 2020, 03:33:52 PM »

I know this maybe confusing, but it's a very complicated system. I was curious what each state was doing in terms of license plate registration and inspection stickers. You have states that are rear plate-only, some have stickers on the windshield, some on the front plate, some back, some both, etc. I made a half-assed attempt to visualize this. The purpose was to understand what everyone was doing. Hawaii was the most complicated and couldn't figure it out because it varies on a number of factors.

States have removed or reduced sticker requirements to save money, and this was to sort of demonstrate an incentive for other states to do that too.


TN and OK show both no front plate, but front plate sticker.... I am a bit confused

yeah....i never finished this. good catch. i was still verifying and confirming when i gave up on it. so it was never finished and really never meant to be seen (realistically) by anyone. Was doing it just for me, really. but good catch!
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