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Poiponen13

There should also be "supracounties" or "prefectures" between counties and states.


kphoger

Quote from: Poiponen13 on November 10, 2022, 05:36:43 AM
There should also be "supracounties" or "prefectures" between counties and states.

Don't a lot of statewide agencies already have those?  I'm thinking of DOT districts, especially.
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kirbykart

Scott said the entire Earth will merge into
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 06, 2022, 12:30:33 PMÃ...

But why exclude other planets? Even other galaxies?

kphoger

Quote from: kirbykart on November 10, 2022, 02:23:32 PM
Scott said the entire Earth will merge into

Quote from: Scott5114 on November 06, 2022, 12:30:33 PM
Ã...

But why exclude other planets? Even other galaxies?

The increase in tax revenue wouldn't justify the added bureaucracy.
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Quote from: Poiponen13 on November 10, 2022, 05:36:43 AM
There should also be "supracounties" or "prefectures" between counties and states.

What would be the point of that?

In metro areas that comprise multiple counties, you already have "councils of government" like the Association of Central Oklahoma Governments (ACOG) to coordinate regional projects that cross county lines, like bus systems or what have you. But if you created those for rural counties, it'd just be another layer of government officials you have to vote for and watch to make sure they're not stealing shit. In the rural areas, there's just not a whole lot of reasons, say, Le Flore County and McCurtain County need to collaborate on anything, and when they do, going through the state is normally a perfectly acceptable way of handling it.
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kphoger

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Male pronouns, please.

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Hunty2022

Quote from: Scott5114 on November 06, 2022, 12:30:33 PM
Every municipality should merge with every county to form one large, international municipality called Ã.... There will be no need for your mayors, your court systems, your city ordinances. All will become one with Ã.... Ã... transcends boundaries. Life will be better in Ã.... Your children will grow up to be six inches taller and 25% stronger and better looking. Everyone will make 25% more money. Ã... is love, Ã... is life. Come live in Ã... with us–the only municipality.

So basically the Los Angeles Angels logo as the name?
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Quote from: Hunty2022 on November 10, 2022, 05:28:45 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 06, 2022, 12:30:33 PM
Every municipality should merge with every county to form one large, international municipality called Ã.... There will be no need for your mayors, your court systems, your city ordinances. All will become one with Ã.... Ã... transcends boundaries. Life will be better in Ã.... Your children will grow up to be six inches taller and 25% stronger and better looking. Everyone will make 25% more money. Ã... is love, Ã... is life. Come live in Ã... with us–the only municipality.

So basically the Los Angeles Angels logo as the name?

Nah, just an expansion of the Norwegian village of Ã... i Lofoten across the entire globe.

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Quote from: Scott5114 on November 10, 2022, 05:58:06 PM
Quote from: Hunty2022 on November 10, 2022, 05:28:45 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 06, 2022, 12:30:33 PM
Every municipality should merge with every county to form one large, international municipality called Ã.... There will be no need for your mayors, your court systems, your city ordinances. All will become one with Ã.... Ã... transcends boundaries. Life will be better in Ã.... Your children will grow up to be six inches taller and 25% stronger and better looking. Everyone will make 25% more money. Ã... is love, Ã... is life. Come live in Ã... with us–the only municipality.

So basically the Los Angeles Angels logo as the name?

Nah, just an expansion of the Norwegian village of Ã... i Lofoten across the entire globe.



I fully support this. I am a quarter Norwegian so this will allow me to reconnect with my heritage... although it means I probably have to start eating lutefisk.

Poiponen13

Quote from: Scott5114 on November 10, 2022, 02:46:18 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on November 10, 2022, 05:36:43 AM
There should also be "supracounties" or "prefectures" between counties and states.

What would be the point of that?

In metro areas that comprise multiple counties, you already have "councils of government" like the Association of Central Oklahoma Governments (ACOG) to coordinate regional projects that cross county lines, like bus systems or what have you. But if you created those for rural counties, it'd just be another layer of government officials you have to vote for and watch to make sure they're not stealing shit. In the rural areas, there's just not a whole lot of reasons, say, Le Flore County and McCurtain County need to collaborate on anything, and when they do, going through the state is normally a perfectly acceptable way of handling it.
Like Chinese prefectures and prefecture-level cities. They would enclose counties and county-level cities, which would then enclose towns and townships.

Poiponen13

And there should also Native American counties and Native American townships.

Bruce

Quote from: Poiponen13 on November 11, 2022, 04:26:38 AM
And there should also Native American counties and Native American townships.

Reservations, basically? I don't see what you're getting at, since sovereign reservations have as much (if not more) power than a county equivalent. Some counties have multiple reservations, some reservations span multiple counties.

And most of the West doesn't do the whole "named townships for every square inch of land" thing. There's numbers you only encounter in property records and the like.

CNGL-Leudimin

Quote from: Scott5114 on November 10, 2022, 05:58:06 PM
Quote from: Hunty2022 on November 10, 2022, 05:28:45 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 06, 2022, 12:30:33 PM
Every municipality should merge with every county to form one large, international municipality called Ã.... There will be no need for your mayors, your court systems, your city ordinances. All will become one with Ã.... Ã... transcends boundaries. Life will be better in Ã.... Your children will grow up to be six inches taller and 25% stronger and better looking. Everyone will make 25% more money. Ã... is love, Ã... is life. Come live in Ã... with us–the only municipality.

So basically the Los Angeles Angels logo as the name?

Nah, just an expansion of the Norwegian village of Ã... i Lofoten across the entire globe.

I'd rather merge everything into Ro(o)mbas :sombrero:.
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Poiponen13

Quote from: Bruce on November 11, 2022, 05:42:13 AM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on November 11, 2022, 04:26:38 AM
And there should also Native American counties and Native American townships.

Reservations, basically? I don't see what you're getting at, since sovereign reservations have as much (if not more) power than a county equivalent. Some counties have multiple reservations, some reservations span multiple counties.

And most of the West doesn't do the whole "named townships for every square inch of land" thing. There's numbers you only encounter in property records and the like.
Like Chinese autonomous prefectures, autonomous counties and ethnic townships. The Native American counties would be county-equivalents.

kphoger

Quote from: Poiponen13 on November 10, 2022, 05:36:43 AM
There should also be "supracounties" or "prefectures" between counties and states.

Quote from: Scott5114 on November 10, 2022, 02:46:18 PM
What would be the point of that?

Quote from: Poiponen13 on November 11, 2022, 03:50:28 AM
Like Chinese prefectures and prefecture-level cities. They would enclose counties and county-level cities, which would then enclose towns and townships.

Does not answer the question that was asked.
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kphoger

Quote from: Poiponen13 on November 11, 2022, 06:09:39 AM
Like Chinese ... ethnic ...

I suggest that we don't follow China's example in how to treat ethnic minorities.
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hotdogPi

For some reason, I was incorrectly under the impression that Native American "ethnic counties" existed. For example, in any recent electoral map, in the Dakotas, Montana, and Wyoming, you'll see a few blue counties in a sea of red, some of them dark blue. Most, but not all, of them are blue because of the Native American vote.

The reason I say "incorrectly" is because they just happen to be in the county; the county isn't explicitly for the reservation.
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bandit957

Quote from: 1 on November 11, 2022, 10:09:21 AM
For some reason, I was incorrectly under the impression that Native American "ethnic counties" existed. For example, in any recent electoral map, in the Dakotas, Montana, and Wyoming, you'll see a few blue counties in a sea of red, some of them dark blue. Most, but not all, of them are blue because of the Native American vote.

The reason I say "incorrectly" is because they just happen to be in the county; the county isn't explicitly for the reservation.

Doesn't Wisconsin have a county that was formed to include a reservation?
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hotdogPi

Quote from: bandit957 on November 11, 2022, 10:12:09 AM
Quote from: 1 on November 11, 2022, 10:09:21 AM
For some reason, I was incorrectly under the impression that Native American "ethnic counties" existed. For example, in any recent electoral map, in the Dakotas, Montana, and Wyoming, you'll see a few blue counties in a sea of red, some of them dark blue. Most, but not all, of them are blue because of the Native American vote.

The reason I say "incorrectly" is because they just happen to be in the county; the county isn't explicitly for the reservation.

Doesn't Wisconsin have a county that was formed to include a reservation?

Menominee County is dark blue on a map surrounded by a sea of light-to-medium red. Looking at Wikipedia, it appears that yes, it's a reservation county.
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Poiponen13

Quote from: Scott5114 on November 10, 2022, 02:46:18 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on November 10, 2022, 05:36:43 AM
There should also be "supracounties" or "prefectures" between counties and states.

What would be the point of that?

In metro areas that comprise multiple counties, you already have "councils of government" like the Association of Central Oklahoma Governments (ACOG) to coordinate regional projects that cross county lines, like bus systems or what have you. But if you created those for rural counties, it'd just be another layer of government officials you have to vote for and watch to make sure they're not stealing shit. In the rural areas, there's just not a whole lot of reasons, say, Le Flore County and McCurtain County need to collaborate on anything, and when they do, going through the state is normally a perfectly acceptable way of handling it.
Have a new level in government.

kphoger

Quote from: Poiponen13 on November 10, 2022, 05:36:43 AM
There should also be "supracounties" or "prefectures" between counties and states.

Quote from: Scott5114 on November 10, 2022, 02:46:18 PM
What would be the point of that?

Quote from: Poiponen13 on November 11, 2022, 12:11:07 PM
Have a new level in government.

Does not answer the question that was asked.
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Scott5114

Quote from: Poiponen13 on November 11, 2022, 04:26:38 AM
And there should also Native American counties and Native American townships.

Osage County, Oklahoma and Oglala Lakota County, South Dakota say hi.

Quote from: Poiponen13 on November 11, 2022, 12:11:07 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 10, 2022, 02:46:18 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on November 10, 2022, 05:36:43 AM
There should also be "supracounties" or "prefectures" between counties and states.

What would be the point of that?

In metro areas that comprise multiple counties, you already have "councils of government" like the Association of Central Oklahoma Governments (ACOG) to coordinate regional projects that cross county lines, like bus systems or what have you. But if you created those for rural counties, it'd just be another layer of government officials you have to vote for and watch to make sure they're not stealing shit. In the rural areas, there's just not a whole lot of reasons, say, Le Flore County and McCurtain County need to collaborate on anything, and when they do, going through the state is normally a perfectly acceptable way of handling it.
Have a new level in government.

And what benefit would that give me? If there was a layer of government between Cleveland County and Oklahoma, I would have to pay taxes to fund that government and vote in elections to decide who runs that government. What does that get me that the current government structure does not?
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hotdogPi

Scott5114, does the name Tom Cole sound familiar to you?
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Scott5114

Quote from: 1 on November 11, 2022, 04:08:07 PM
Scott5114, does the name Tom Cole sound familiar to you?

I have many opinions about Tom Cole that I'm not supposed to post on this forum, but may I ask what particular facet of him you're interested in?
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hotdogPi

Quote from: Scott5114 on November 11, 2022, 04:10:25 PM
Quote from: 1 on November 11, 2022, 04:08:07 PM
Scott5114, does the name Tom Cole sound familiar to you?

I have many opinions about Tom Cole that I'm not supposed to post on this forum, but may I ask what particular facet of him you're interested in?

Poiponen13 was just asking about if there was something between the state level and the county level. I'm just telling you it already exists.
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