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Re: I-49 Coming to Missouri
« Reply #225 on: July 20, 2012, 08:37:42 PM »

Sounds like this guy has been smoking the wacky terbacky.  If they build a rail line to Bannister Road, nobody, and I mean NOBODY will use it.  Kansas City is way too sprawled out for rail transit.
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Re: I-49 Coming to Missouri
« Reply #226 on: July 21, 2012, 09:56:20 AM »

Anyone that wants to add lights should be slapped.
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Re: I-49 Coming to Missouri
« Reply #227 on: August 01, 2012, 08:32:50 PM »

there are plenty of mileposts north of I-44

Interesting directional signs in photo accompanying this brief article:


A little bit of roadgeek irony with the top sign having I-49 4 miles away and the bottom sign having I-49 9 miles away ...  :happy:
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Re: I-49 Coming to Missouri
« Reply #228 on: August 01, 2012, 09:37:59 PM »

Interesting directional signs in photo accompanying this brief article:


PING Scott Nuzum - this is your neck of the woods, do you know who took the photo ;)
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Re: I-49 Coming to Missouri
« Reply #229 on: August 05, 2012, 12:08:25 AM »

Interesting directional signs in photo accompanying this brief article:


PING Scott Nuzum - this is your neck of the woods, do you know who took the photo ;)

In fact, that's our sister paper and it looks like they forgot the photo credit in the online article. It was one of either Lynn Wade, Ralph Pokorny or James Campbell.

I went to Nevada last night and got some pix of my own to upload a bit later.
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Re: I-49 Coming to Missouri
« Reply #230 on: August 05, 2012, 12:35:39 AM »

Okay, here are some of the pix from Friday:


Exit 101, Austin Boulevard. Note the Bus. 71 patch.


Exit 102B, Osage Boulevard. Notice no exit tab on the U.S. 54 exit sign in the background (Since U.S. 71 curves just past that point, that sign is to the left in the photo, by the cell phone tower).


Exit 103, Highland Ave.

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* No posts set up awaiting I-49 shields on the side roads at any of the exits.
* Not all the exit tabs are up. Highland Ave. was the only northbound one I saw and as noted, no tab on the U.S. 54 exit on the southbound side.
* If you go up the west outer road from the Highland Ave. exit, you'll see the entrance for the MoDOT shop. I went up that road because it was the only place wide enough to turn around. The old signs are being stored there. Since the shop was still open, I shied away from getting into position to get a shot of those signs. Probably could have gotten them if I could have a found a good place to park and used the zoom.  :-/

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Re: I-49 Coming to Missouri
« Reply #231 on: August 07, 2012, 04:26:17 PM »

Breaking news:
327th Street overpass near Archie is expected to open Thursday by 7pm.

http://www.modot.org/kansascity/newrelease/District4Release.shtml?action=displaySSI&newsId=173849
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Re: I-49 Coming to Missouri
« Reply #232 on: August 08, 2012, 09:56:23 AM »

Was looking at the video cam on Monday of the interchange. Yes it's far enough along to open with shoulder work, final grading and line painting left.
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Re: I-49 Coming to Missouri
« Reply #233 on: August 08, 2012, 10:41:25 AM »

A couple photos from Neosho taken this past weekend:

Bus 71/Bus 60 near the "split". This is another "patch" sign for Business 71
You can also see abandoned sign footings from a previous sign


Not a "patch" sign, yet directly across from the other sign
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Re: I-49 Coming to Missouri
« Reply #234 on: August 08, 2012, 06:26:18 PM »

Whew that grass looks crispy.
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Re: I-49 Coming to Missouri
« Reply #235 on: August 08, 2012, 09:33:40 PM »

Whew that grass looks crispy.

There's a small drainage ditch running along the east side of the road, but it's mostly dried up.
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Re: I-49 Coming to Missouri
« Reply #236 on: August 08, 2012, 09:56:47 PM »

The empty signs awaiting the blue shield are as far south as the U.S. 71 Lanagan and Pineville (where I-49 will temporarily end) turnoffs.  OH, if Arkansas could have gotten their act together mid-last decade on funding their portion of the BV bypass... :-|
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Re: I-49 Coming to Missouri
« Reply #237 on: August 08, 2012, 10:25:03 PM »

The empty signs awaiting the blue shield are as far south as the U.S. 71 Lanagan and Pineville (where I-49 will temporarily end) turnoffs.  OH, if Arkansas could have gotten their act together mid-last decade on funding their portion of the BV bypass... :-|

We lost a lot of highway funding after John Paul Hammerschmidt retired.
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Re: I-49 Coming to Missouri
« Reply #238 on: August 09, 2012, 01:26:21 AM »

The empty signs awaiting the blue shield are as far south as the U.S. 71 Lanagan and Pineville (where I-49 will temporarily end) turnoffs.  OH, if Arkansas could have gotten their act together mid-last decade on funding their portion of the BV bypass... :-|

We lost a lot of highway funding after John Paul Hammerschmidt retired.

Hammerschmidt retired in 1993 and people were still having to drive narrow old 71 to get to Fayetteville. That bacon he brought home sure seemed pretty lean.
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Re: I-49 Coming to Missouri
« Reply #239 on: August 09, 2012, 04:44:05 PM »

The empty signs awaiting the blue shield are as far south as the U.S. 71 Lanagan and Pineville (where I-49 will temporarily end) turnoffs.  OH, if Arkansas could have gotten their act together mid-last decade on funding their portion of the BV bypass... :-|

We lost a lot of highway funding after John Paul Hammerschmidt retired.

Hammerschmidt retired in 1993 and people were still having to drive narrow old 71 to get to Fayetteville. That bacon he brought home sure seemed pretty lean.

The final Environmental Impact Statement was released in 1986 and work began in 1987. 1995 is when work on the tunnel began. Don't forget: AHTD had no experience with a project on this scale so it took a long time to get it done, especially since it crossed some of the roughest terrain in the state.
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Missouri I-49 Designation Set for Dec. 12
« Reply #240 on: September 02, 2012, 11:32:35 PM »

This article reports that the official designation will take place at noon on Dec. 12:

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.... The 180-mile stretch of U.S. 71 from south Kansas City to Joplin and beyond will become Interstate 49 once the last few finishing touches are completed by early November. The official designation is scheduled for noon on Dec. 12, as in 12-12-12-12 ....
Trucks make up 30 percent of the traffic on U.S. 71 now, according to the Missouri Department of Transportation, and the route is the second busiest freight artery out of Kansas City. That traffic is expected to increase once the highway becomes an interstate ....
Bruce R. Watkins Drive will not become part of Interstate 49 because the at-grade crossings and stoplights at Gregory Boulevard, and 59th and 55th streets will remain. I-49 will run south from Interstate 435 ....

The article does not indicate the location of the ceremony.

edit - MoDOT also makes it clear that they are waiting on Arkansas before they build Missouri's section of the Bella Vista Bypass:

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The section of highway south of Joplin is complete and ready for interstate designation as far as the small town of Pineville, about five miles from the Arkansas border. At that point, the highway is supposed to connect someday to a bypass around the town of Bella Vista, just across the state line in Arkansas.
Missouri was prepared to build its portion of the bypass, estimated at $40 million, until Arkansas said it did not have the money to do its part. That’s when the Missouri highway commission decided to shift its focus and money to the section north of Joplin.
“We do not want to build a four-lane freeway that dead-ends at the state line,” said Sean Matlock, MoDOT’s manager for the I-49 project.
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Re: I-49 Coming to Missouri
« Reply #241 on: September 03, 2012, 12:15:55 AM »

Anyone had any luck with MoDOT? I just sent an email for the exit list and mile point list for I-49 in the state.

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Re: I-49 Coming to Missouri
« Reply #242 on: September 03, 2012, 08:10:30 AM »

Anyone had any luck with MoDOT? I just sent an email for the exit list and mile point list for I-49 in the state.

Richie has an exit list for I-44 to KC.  I've got the numbers for Pineville-Joplin, but haven't done anything with the info. Exit 5 will be Route H/ Pineville . This will be the first exit along the completed segment of I-49.

39A Route FF / 32nd St (Joplin)
39B MO 249 North/Joplin
39C I-44 West / Tulsa

Of course, the perfect spot for a ribbon cutting would be Exit 12, but it doesn't exist. :(

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Re: I-49 Coming to Missouri
« Reply #243 on: September 03, 2012, 11:29:09 AM »

Anyone had any luck with MoDOT? I just sent an email for the exit list and mile point list for I-49 in the state.

Richie has an exit list for I-44 to KC.  I've got the numbers for Pineville-Joplin, but haven't done anything with the info. Exit 5 will be Route H/ Pineville . This will be the first exit along the completed segment of I-49.

39A Route FF / 32nd St (Joplin)
39B MO 249 North/Joplin
39C I-44 West / Tulsa

Of course, the perfect spot for a ribbon cutting would be Exit 12, but it doesn't exist. :(



Well, I got the entire exit list on my sandbox in wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Intelati/Sandbox/1

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Re: I-49 Coming to Missouri
« Reply #244 on: September 03, 2012, 11:53:09 AM »


Well, I got the entire exit list on my sandbox in wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Intelati/Sandbox/1

Very good! You're missing Exit 101, though: Bus 49/ Route K Nevada .
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Re: I-49 Coming to Missouri
« Reply #245 on: September 03, 2012, 12:14:53 PM »

Since we are road geeks and solve all road problems. Where should the I-49 rest areas/welcome centers/weigh stations go? There is a weigh station south of KC already but it's real old and outdated. If MODOT wants a Interstate in my mind they should build rest areas/welcome centers/weigh stations to match current Interstate standards. The drive is rather flat and boring if you haven't made it before so rest areas would be welcomed. I don't know the current cost estimates for rest areas/welcome centers/weigh stations so if any onecan guess thank you.
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Re: I-49 Coming to Missouri
« Reply #246 on: September 03, 2012, 02:39:17 PM »

A welcome center somewhere around Pineville is in order, but rest areas are probably a waste of money. The idea of a rest area comes from the time before people built gas stations and restaurants at every freeway interchange. Now we don't need rest areas because private businesses fill that niche.
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Re: I-49 Coming to Missouri
« Reply #247 on: September 03, 2012, 04:41:50 PM »

A welcome center somewhere around Pineville is in order, but rest areas are probably a waste of money. The idea of a rest area comes from the time before people built gas stations and restaurants at every freeway interchange. Now we don't need rest areas because private businesses fill that niche.

The article mentions the "need" for several more truck stops along the highway. The only truck stop I know between Pineville & Joplin is the Flying J.  There is a Kum n Go "fuel stop" at US 60 in Neosho, but it's a pain to get in and out of.

Nevada has a Pilot and there's a Flying J near Peculiar, I think.   Carthage would be good spot, I think. Build it across from the Fastrip ;)

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Re: I-49 Coming to Missouri
« Reply #248 on: September 03, 2012, 06:12:02 PM »

Flying J in Peculiar is infamous for having the cheapest gas in the KC area. I still see a need for 1 south bound and 2 North Bound rest areas(includes welcome center). Now MoDot has become anti rest area and will probably won't build any even including a welcome center. MoDot still should build the BVB to the state line now. It's cheaper now than 3-5 years down the road when road building rates increase. On a side note they just redecked the exit at Peculiar as it was in horrid shape. KC still needs work at Richards Geubar and a six laning to the North Cass Parkway. I can only dream of those damn lights going away. Heck I would trade a 45mph speed limit for the lights going away.
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Re: I-49 Coming to Missouri
« Reply #249 on: September 03, 2012, 07:01:26 PM »

A welcome center somewhere around Pineville is in order, but rest areas are probably a waste of money. The idea of a rest area comes from the time before people built gas stations and restaurants at every freeway interchange. Now we don't need rest areas because private businesses fill that niche.

Bunk.  Rest areas still provide a need and a function along the freeway.  If properly placed (such as before a city), they double as map stops.  Gas stations are not always dependable, and restaurants look at you weird if you use the washroom but not ordering the food.  Private businesses DO NOT fill that niche.
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