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Flint1979

Quote from: triplemultiplex on August 18, 2023, 10:47:07 AM
Ain't nobody going far in October from the NL Central, I predict.  Just not enough offense to match the best teams in the league. 

At least it's been fun watching Sal Frelick these last couple months; dude's a highlight machine.  Welcome to The Show, Sal.
Nobody in the AL Central even belongs in the postseason.


NWI_Irish96

White Sox just fired executive VP Ken Williams and GM Rick Hahn.
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Henry

This upcoming offseason could be dominated by two-way threat Shohei Ohtani, and his next move in free agency. I know lots of teams will line up to sign him.
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KeithE4Phx

Quote from: NWI_Irish96 on August 22, 2023, 07:07:54 PM
White Sox just fired executive VP Ken Williams and GM Rick Hahn.

About five years too late.  Jerry Reinsdorf should have fired himself at the same time.
"Oh, so you hate your job? Well, why didn't you say so? There's a support group for that. It's called "EVERYBODY!" They meet at the bar." -- Drew Carey

Flint1979

Quote from: NWI_Irish96 on August 22, 2023, 07:07:54 PM
White Sox just fired executive VP Ken Williams and GM Rick Hahn.
About 15 years too late on Kenny, not sure about Hahn maybe now was the right time since the rebuild they were supposed to have failed.

Flint1979

Quote from: KeithE4Phx on August 23, 2023, 01:02:19 AM
Quote from: NWI_Irish96 on August 22, 2023, 07:07:54 PM
White Sox just fired executive VP Ken Williams and GM Rick Hahn.

About five years too late.  Jerry Reinsdorf should have fired himself at the same time.
Jerry Reinsdorf is guilty of being wayyyyyyyy too loyal to people that either have no idea what they are really doing or have failed at their job. It's hard to believe that he is just now getting rid of Kenny. Rick wasn't too bad but if they truly want to rebuild they need new people. Their managerial hire last offseason was a joke.

Takumi

Quote from: Henry on August 22, 2023, 10:13:01 PM
This upcoming offseason could be dominated by two-way threat Shohei Ohtani, and his next move in free agency. I know lots of teams will line up to sign him.

This aged like milk.
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Alps

Quote from: Takumi on August 24, 2023, 10:34:31 AM
Quote from: Henry on August 22, 2023, 10:13:01 PM
This upcoming offseason could be dominated by two-way threat Shohei Ohtani, and his next move in free agency. I know lots of teams will line up to sign him.

This aged like milk.
don't be cheesy

Ted$8roadFan

Quote from: Flint1979 on August 23, 2023, 12:42:57 PM
Quote from: KeithE4Phx on August 23, 2023, 01:02:19 AM
Quote from: NWI_Irish96 on August 22, 2023, 07:07:54 PM
White Sox just fired executive VP Ken Williams and GM Rick Hahn.

About five years too late.  Jerry Reinsdorf should have fired himself at the same time.
Jerry Reinsdorf is guilty of being wayyyyyyyy too loyal to people that either have no idea what they are really doing or have failed at their job. It's hard to believe that he is just now getting rid of Kenny. Rick wasn't too bad but if they truly want to rebuild they need new people. Their managerial hire last offseason was a joke.

And to top it off, he's actually considering moving the White Sox out of Chicago:

https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/white-sox-considering-move-guaranteed-rate-field/

Henry

Quote from: Ted$8roadFan on August 24, 2023, 07:19:17 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on August 23, 2023, 12:42:57 PM
Quote from: KeithE4Phx on August 23, 2023, 01:02:19 AM
Quote from: NWI_Irish96 on August 22, 2023, 07:07:54 PM
White Sox just fired executive VP Ken Williams and GM Rick Hahn.

About five years too late.  Jerry Reinsdorf should have fired himself at the same time.
Jerry Reinsdorf is guilty of being wayyyyyyyy too loyal to people that either have no idea what they are really doing or have failed at their job. It's hard to believe that he is just now getting rid of Kenny. Rick wasn't too bad but if they truly want to rebuild they need new people. Their managerial hire last offseason was a joke.

And to top it off, he's actually considering moving the White Sox out of Chicago:

https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/white-sox-considering-move-guaranteed-rate-field/
Whoa! Say it ain't so, Joe...

The Cubs may be the bigger draw, but the White Sox are just as important to Chicago as the North Siders are. In an era where Philadelphia, Boston, St. Louis and even New York lost teams, Chicago was very fortunate to hold on to both of its teams, though the Sox have been linked to relocation rumors more than twice: Two decades before they flirted with Tampa Bay, a move to Milwaukee was proposed, until the bankrupt Seattle Pilots ended up there. That being said, I don't want the annual Crosstown Series to be a thing of the past.
Go Cubs Go! Go Cubs Go! Hey Chicago, what do you say? The Cubs are gonna win today!

NWI_Irish96

Quote from: Henry on August 24, 2023, 10:33:48 PM
Quote from: Ted$8roadFan on August 24, 2023, 07:19:17 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on August 23, 2023, 12:42:57 PM
Quote from: KeithE4Phx on August 23, 2023, 01:02:19 AM
Quote from: NWI_Irish96 on August 22, 2023, 07:07:54 PM
White Sox just fired executive VP Ken Williams and GM Rick Hahn.

About five years too late.  Jerry Reinsdorf should have fired himself at the same time.
Jerry Reinsdorf is guilty of being wayyyyyyyy too loyal to people that either have no idea what they are really doing or have failed at their job. It's hard to believe that he is just now getting rid of Kenny. Rick wasn't too bad but if they truly want to rebuild they need new people. Their managerial hire last offseason was a joke.

And to top it off, he's actually considering moving the White Sox out of Chicago:

https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/white-sox-considering-move-guaranteed-rate-field/
Whoa! Say it ain't so, Joe...

The Cubs may be the bigger draw, but the White Sox are just as important to Chicago as the North Siders are. In an era where Philadelphia, Boston, St. Louis and even New York lost teams, Chicago was very fortunate to hold on to both of its teams, though the Sox have been linked to relocation rumors more than twice: Two decades before they flirted with Tampa Bay, a move to Milwaukee was proposed, until the bankrupt Seattle Pilots ended up there. That being said, I don't want the annual Crosstown Series to be a thing of the past.

Sox have one of the biggest TV contracts in MLB. They aren't moving out of the metro area. They could move to the suburbs, but no farther. Any words otherwise are simply attempts to extort stadium money from the city/state.
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Stephane Dumas

Quote from: NWI_Irish96 on August 25, 2023, 07:17:04 AM
Sox have one of the biggest TV contracts in MLB. They aren't moving out of the metro area. They could move to the suburbs, but no farther. Any words otherwise are simply attempts to extort stadium money from the city/state.

I wonder if that could include the suburbs in Northwest Indiana located south of Gary? Or they could still move to Aurora, Illinois where Wayne's World was set (but most of the film scenes was filmed around LA)

NWI_Irish96

Quote from: Stephane Dumas on August 25, 2023, 10:18:24 AM
Quote from: NWI_Irish96 on August 25, 2023, 07:17:04 AM
Sox have one of the biggest TV contracts in MLB. They aren't moving out of the metro area. They could move to the suburbs, but no farther. Any words otherwise are simply attempts to extort stadium money from the city/state.

I wonder if that could include the suburbs in Northwest Indiana located south of Gary? Or they could still move to Aurora, Illinois where Wayne's World was set (but most of the film scenes was filmed around LA)

As much as I'd love to see the Sox right in my backyard, I think NWI is too far away for a lot of the fan base, and Aurora is too far west. Something around the I-55/I-294 interchange would be the best suburban location if they can't find anything in the city.

With the Bears moving out, I'd love to see Soldier Field repurposed as a baseball stadium.
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Flint1979

Quote from: Stephane Dumas on August 25, 2023, 10:18:24 AM
Quote from: NWI_Irish96 on August 25, 2023, 07:17:04 AM
Sox have one of the biggest TV contracts in MLB. They aren't moving out of the metro area. They could move to the suburbs, but no farther. Any words otherwise are simply attempts to extort stadium money from the city/state.

I wonder if that could include the suburbs in Northwest Indiana located south of Gary? Or they could still move to Aurora, Illinois where Wayne's World was set (but most of the film scenes was filmed around LA)
NW Indiana wouldn't be a good location. You'd want to build a ballpark around where most of the population in the area is and that isn't NW Indiana.

hotdogPi

Quote from: Flint1979 on August 25, 2023, 11:12:13 AM
Quote from: Stephane Dumas on August 25, 2023, 10:18:24 AM
Quote from: NWI_Irish96 on August 25, 2023, 07:17:04 AM
Sox have one of the biggest TV contracts in MLB. They aren't moving out of the metro area. They could move to the suburbs, but no farther. Any words otherwise are simply attempts to extort stadium money from the city/state.

I wonder if that could include the suburbs in Northwest Indiana located south of Gary? Or they could still move to Aurora, Illinois where Wayne's World was set (but most of the film scenes was filmed around LA)
NW Indiana wouldn't be a good location. You'd want to build a ballpark around where most of the population in the area is and that isn't NW Indiana.

Call it Indiana Whatevers. Indianapolis will join the fan base while keeping some of Chicago's.
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Flint1979

Quote from: 1 on August 25, 2023, 11:13:51 AM
Quote from: Flint1979 on August 25, 2023, 11:12:13 AM
Quote from: Stephane Dumas on August 25, 2023, 10:18:24 AM
Quote from: NWI_Irish96 on August 25, 2023, 07:17:04 AM
Sox have one of the biggest TV contracts in MLB. They aren't moving out of the metro area. They could move to the suburbs, but no farther. Any words otherwise are simply attempts to extort stadium money from the city/state.

I wonder if that could include the suburbs in Northwest Indiana located south of Gary? Or they could still move to Aurora, Illinois where Wayne's World was set (but most of the film scenes was filmed around LA)
NW Indiana wouldn't be a good location. You'd want to build a ballpark around where most of the population in the area is and that isn't NW Indiana.

Call it Indiana Whatevers. Indianapolis will join the fan base while keeping some of Chicago's.
People in Indianapolis are already established. They are closer to the Reds than they are to either Chicago team even if the White Sox moved to NW Indiana they'd still be closer by about 40 miles. NW Indiana isn't a good place to put a professional team anyway.

KeithE4Phx

Quote from: Henry on August 24, 2023, 10:33:48 PM
The Cubs may be the bigger draw, but the White Sox are just as important to Chicago as the North Siders are. In an era where Philadelphia, Boston, St. Louis and even New York lost teams, Chicago was very fortunate to hold on to both of its teams, though the Sox have been linked to relocation rumors more than twice: Two decades before they flirted with Tampa Bay, a move to Milwaukee was proposed, until the bankrupt Seattle Pilots ended up there. That being said, I don't want the annual Crosstown Series to be a thing of the past.

The Sox have come thisclose to moving to Milwaukee (1969), Seattle (1975), Denver (1980), and St. Petersburg (1987).

One thing they won't do is move anyplace north of Madison St.  The north side of the metro is Cubs country, and the Sox would be unwelcome.  Southern DuPage or Kane County, maybe.  Aurora, might work; Elgin will not.

Northwest Indiana, file that under "Never."    It's been going downhill for at least 60 years (full disclosure:  my family is originally from Hammond, and I remember when things started to sink).  The economy can no longer handle it.  The refineries and steel mills just ain't what they used to be.
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triplemultiplex

Can't even get 30 years out of a stadium any more before the team goes threatening to move.  :no: :pan:
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Flint1979

The Tigers should move back to the corner of Michgian and Trumbull. Tear everything that was built there down and rebuild Tiger Stadium then rebuild everything that was there where Comerica Park is today. A win win situation.


Bruce

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NWI_Irish96

Quote from: KeithE4Phx on August 25, 2023, 12:45:18 PM
Quote from: Henry on August 24, 2023, 10:33:48 PM
The Cubs may be the bigger draw, but the White Sox are just as important to Chicago as the North Siders are. In an era where Philadelphia, Boston, St. Louis and even New York lost teams, Chicago was very fortunate to hold on to both of its teams, though the Sox have been linked to relocation rumors more than twice: Two decades before they flirted with Tampa Bay, a move to Milwaukee was proposed, until the bankrupt Seattle Pilots ended up there. That being said, I don't want the annual Crosstown Series to be a thing of the past.

The Sox have come thisclose to moving to Milwaukee (1969), Seattle (1975), Denver (1980), and St. Petersburg (1987).

One thing they won't do is move anyplace north of Madison St.  The north side of the metro is Cubs country, and the Sox would be unwelcome.  Southern DuPage or Kane County, maybe.  Aurora, might work; Elgin will not.

Northwest Indiana, file that under "Never."    It's been going downhill for at least 60 years (full disclosure:  my family is originally from Hammond, and I remember when things started to sink).  The economy can no longer handle it.  The refineries and steel mills just ain't what they used to be.

Not sure when the last time is that you've been to NWI, or which parts you went to, but your assessment is not accurate. Yes, Gary is still at rock bottom, but Hammond is on the upswing and the middle of Lake County (Munster, Highland, Dyer, Schererville, St John, Crown Point, Winfield) is absolutely thriving.

The economy isn't the problem. The problem is that the majority of the fan base is in Chicago and the western suburbs, and going to NWI is not convenient for them.
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KeithE4Phx

Quote from: NWI_Irish96 on August 29, 2023, 07:02:00 AM
Quote from: KeithE4Phx on August 25, 2023, 12:45:18 PM
Quote from: Henry on August 24, 2023, 10:33:48 PM
The Cubs may be the bigger draw, but the White Sox are just as important to Chicago as the North Siders are. In an era where Philadelphia, Boston, St. Louis and even New York lost teams, Chicago was very fortunate to hold on to both of its teams, though the Sox have been linked to relocation rumors more than twice: Two decades before they flirted with Tampa Bay, a move to Milwaukee was proposed, until the bankrupt Seattle Pilots ended up there. That being said, I don't want the annual Crosstown Series to be a thing of the past.

The Sox have come thisclose to moving to Milwaukee (1969), Seattle (1975), Denver (1980), and St. Petersburg (1987).

One thing they won't do is move anyplace north of Madison St.  The north side of the metro is Cubs country, and the Sox would be unwelcome.  Southern DuPage or Kane County, maybe.  Aurora, might work; Elgin will not.

Northwest Indiana, file that under "Never."    It's been going downhill for at least 60 years (full disclosure:  my family is originally from Hammond, and I remember when things started to sink).  The economy can no longer handle it.  The refineries and steel mills just ain't what they used to be.

Not sure when the last time is that you've been to NWI, or which parts you went to, but your assessment is not accurate. Yes, Gary is still at rock bottom, but Hammond is on the upswing and the middle of Lake County (Munster, Highland, Dyer, Schererville, St John, Crown Point, Winfield) is absolutely thriving.

My family in the area moved away or died back in the '70s and '80s.  But if it's doing better now (outside of Gary), that's great.
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Henry

The Cubs are currently caught up in the pennant race, and occupying the second wildcard berth. This was not supposed to happen during their latest rebuild, but it's the Cubs, and after the events of 2016, I've learned to expect the unexpected.
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Quote from: 74/171FAN on September 01, 2023, 06:31:58 AM
Braves OF Ronald Acuna, Jr., is now the first ever member of the 30-60 club (30 HR, 60 stolen bases).
and got married the morning between games to keep his wife and kids here in America instead of having to return to another country for 2 months. he sounds like an amazing guy and I hope they win the Series this year (as a Yankees fan I have no shot here).



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