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[dvferyance]

WIDOT doesn't do a lot of route changes, and when they do I don't think people get all that confused.  Most people navigate by GPS these days and that helps people figure those things out.

If your outside of Waukesha County I would agree but here we have one section of road that has 3 different designations in less than 2 decades. That says there has been too many changes around here.

What stretch is that?

And you have to know those are exceptions.  And considering Waukesha County's growth, a lot of those changes do make sense.

I think he's talking about the Les Paul Pkwy: 18/59/164

Nope that is a triplex and that road has always at least been 59 since the Waukesha bypass was built. I am talking about a road that has had 3 different numbers or letters in the last 2 decades and that goes to Hwy F from Capitol Dr to Main st in Sussex. It was 164 until 1999 then 74 until 2016 and now F. Not to mention 164 south of Waukesha was once F. So 164 used to be F and F used to be 164 how crazy is that? I am sure you can't find another example of that anywhere else.

[SEWIGuy]

WIDOT doesn't do a lot of route changes, and when they do I don't think people get all that confused.  Most people navigate by GPS these days and that helps people figure those things out.

If your outside of Waukesha County I would agree but here we have one section of road that has 3 different designations in less than 2 decades. That says there has been too many changes around here.

What stretch is that?

And you have to know those are exceptions.  And considering Waukesha County's growth, a lot of those changes do make sense.

I think he's talking about the Les Paul Pkwy: 18/59/164

Nope that is a triplex and that road has always at least been 59 since the Waukesha bypass was built. I am talking about a road that has had 3 different numbers or letters in the last 2 decades and that goes to Hwy F from Capitol Dr to Main st in Sussex. It was 164 until 1999 then 74 until 2016 and now F. Not to mention 164 south of Waukesha was once F. So 164 used to be F and F used to be 164 how crazy is that? I am sure you can't find another example of that anywhere else.

Are these changes creating confusion or do you just not like change?  IMO this is how highway systems evolve, especially in high growth areas.

[thspfc]

My dumb ass thought it'd be 'fine' to roll US 51 SB by Tomahawk on Memorial Day while it's down to two lanes for the full depth pavement reconstruction of the SB carriageway.  It was not.  Won't make that weekend mistake again this summer until that is done.
Pretty sure the traffic jam overloaded the cell towers in the area because neither me nor my cousin could load data worth a damn to see how bad it was ahead.

The road being closed tricked the traffic status on the goog.

That road is always backed up on Memorial Day. From Minocqua to Wausau, then again from Portage to Madison and beyond - probably all the way to Rockford, but I've never taken it that far on a holiday.

[dvferyance]

WIDOT doesn't do a lot of route changes, and when they do I don't think people get all that confused.  Most people navigate by GPS these days and that helps people figure those things out.

If your outside of Waukesha County I would agree but here we have one section of road that has 3 different designations in less than 2 decades. That says there has been too many changes around here.

What stretch is that?

And you have to know those are exceptions.  And considering Waukesha County's growth, a lot of those changes do make sense.

I think he's talking about the Les Paul Pkwy: 18/59/164

Nope that is a triplex and that road has always at least been 59 since the Waukesha bypass was built. I am talking about a road that has had 3 different numbers or letters in the last 2 decades and that goes to Hwy F from Capitol Dr to Main st in Sussex. It was 164 until 1999 then 74 until 2016 and now F. Not to mention 164 south of Waukesha was once F. So 164 used to be F and F used to be 164 how crazy is that? I am sure you can't find another example of that anywhere else.

Are these changes creating confusion or do you just not like change?  IMO this is how highway systems evolve, especially in high growth areas.

Little of both really I don't mind a few changes here and there every once in a great while but for them to keep doing it every few years get's to be too much. At least the good news is I don't see any further changes in Waukesha County in the coming years. I don't see what would be changed. The only thing I could see is a few local roads promoted to county highways as the county grows and some minor roads become more major but I see no future candidates with swaps between the state and the county.

[dvferyance]

I checked out the new Elm Road interchange today. I noticed Elm Road does not go through to the east to 13th street. That is too bad because it would provide some relief to Ryan Road with the new Amazon plant. It does appear I was right and they are keeping the southern terminus of WI-241 at 7 Mile Road as I thought which I think is a good idea myself instead of turning it onto Elm and ending it at the interchange. I am kind of surprised they did not put a traffic light at 27th and Elm but I guess there isn't enough traffic to warrant one. The 4 way stop should be sufficient enough.

[Big John]

Gov. Evers wants to revive the !-94 East-West freeway project.

https://www.wpr.org/evers-wants-revive-i-94-east-west-expansion

[mgk920]

Gov. Evers wants to revive the !-94 East-West freeway project.

https://www.wpr.org/evers-wants-revive-i-94-east-west-expansion

 

Mike

[thspfc]

Gov. Evers wants to revive the !-94 East-West freeway project.

https://www.wpr.org/evers-wants-revive-i-94-east-west-expansion

 

Mike

Hopefully that means the bottleneck at the Stadium Interchange will be gone. That area is impossible to drive through on game days.

[triplemultiplex]

Hopefully that means the bottleneck at the Stadium Interchange will be gone. That area is impossible to drive through on game days.

If only there were game day traffic...

At least that last chunk is sort of 'shovel ready' as soon as someone can rustle up some funds.

[thspfc]

Hopefully that means the bottleneck at the Stadium Interchange will be gone. That area is impossible to drive through on game days.

If only there were game day traffic...

At least that last chunk is sort of 'shovel ready' as soon as someone can rustle up some funds.

Yeah, very true.

[dvferyance]

It appears that WisDOT is phasing out unincorporated places as control cities with their new signage. I-43 Exit 107 now only has Belgium previously Lake Church had also been used. I-39 and Hwy 34 no longer uses Knowlton no control city NB only Wisconsin Rapids is used SB. I-39 and Hwy W once used Bancroft but no longer being used SB still signed NB for now. I really don't like this I mean even if it's not officially incorporated it's still a place and it looks better than nothing. I wonder how many Wisconsinites even know that Minocqua and Woodruff are not incorporated towns. I also noticed that goofy north-south or east-west have also but phased out but I am cool with that.

[thspfc]

It appears that WisDOT is phasing out unincorporated places as control cities with their new signage. I-43 Exit 107 now only has Belgium previously Lake Church had also been used. I-39 and Hwy 34 no longer uses Knowlton no control city NB only Wisconsin Rapids is used SB. I-39 and Hwy W once used Bancroft but no longer being used SB still signed NB for now. I really don't like this I mean even if it's not officially incorporated it's still a place and it looks better than nothing. I wonder how many Wisconsinites even know that Minocqua and Woodruff are not incorporated towns. I also noticed that goofy north-south or east-west have also but phased out but I am cool with that.

I agree. And Minocqua and Woodruff definitely should be incorporated. It's not a stretch to say those towns are the second most significant population/economic centers in Wisconsin north of US-8.

[SEWIGuy]

It appears that WisDOT is phasing out unincorporated places as control cities with their new signage. I-43 Exit 107 now only has Belgium previously Lake Church had also been used. I-39 and Hwy 34 no longer uses Knowlton no control city NB only Wisconsin Rapids is used SB. I-39 and Hwy W once used Bancroft but no longer being used SB still signed NB for now. I really don't like this I mean even if it's not officially incorporated it's still a place and it looks better than nothing. I wonder how many Wisconsinites even know that Minocqua and Woodruff are not incorporated towns. I also noticed that goofy north-south or east-west have also but phased out but I am cool with that.

I agree. And Minocqua and Woodruff definitely should be incorporated. It's not a stretch to say those towns are the second most significant population/economic centers in Wisconsin north of US-8.

Not sure about that at all but not putting unincorporated areas on signage is strange.

[mgk920]

It appears that WisDOT is phasing out unincorporated places as control cities with their new signage. I-43 Exit 107 now only has Belgium previously Lake Church had also been used. I-39 and Hwy 34 no longer uses Knowlton no control city NB only Wisconsin Rapids is used SB. I-39 and Hwy W once used Bancroft but no longer being used SB still signed NB for now. I really don't like this I mean even if it's not officially incorporated it's still a place and it looks better than nothing. I wonder how many Wisconsinites even know that Minocqua and Woodruff are not incorporated towns. I also noticed that goofy north-south or east-west have also but phased out but I am cool with that.

I agree. And Minocqua and Woodruff definitely should be incorporated. It's not a stretch to say those towns are the second most significant population/economic centers in Wisconsin north of US-8.

Not sure about that at all but not putting unincorporated areas on signage is strange.

I've been thinking for some time now that a wide area in the Minocqua-Woodruff area should be turned into a 'City of Lakeland'.  School District there is called 'Lakeland'.

 

Do they also know that Florence, WI is unincorporated?

Mike

[GeekJedi]

It appears that WisDOT is phasing out unincorporated places as control cities with their new signage. I-43 Exit 107 now only has Belgium previously Lake Church had also been used. I-39 and Hwy 34 no longer uses Knowlton no control city NB only Wisconsin Rapids is used SB. I-39 and Hwy W once used Bancroft but no longer being used SB still signed NB for now. I really don't like this I mean even if it's not officially incorporated it's still a place and it looks better than nothing. I wonder how many Wisconsinites even know that Minocqua and Woodruff are not incorporated towns. I also noticed that goofy north-south or east-west have also but phased out but I am cool with that.

I agree - even if they're unincorporated, they are still population centers. I had no idea that Minocqua wasn't incorporated!

[thspfc]

It appears that WisDOT is phasing out unincorporated places as control cities with their new signage. I-43 Exit 107 now only has Belgium previously Lake Church had also been used. I-39 and Hwy 34 no longer uses Knowlton no control city NB only Wisconsin Rapids is used SB. I-39 and Hwy W once used Bancroft but no longer being used SB still signed NB for now. I really don't like this I mean even if it's not officially incorporated it's still a place and it looks better than nothing. I wonder how many Wisconsinites even know that Minocqua and Woodruff are not incorporated towns. I also noticed that goofy north-south or east-west have also but phased out but I am cool with that.

I agree. And Minocqua and Woodruff definitely should be incorporated. It's not a stretch to say those towns are the second most significant population/economic centers in Wisconsin north of US-8.

Not sure about that at all but not putting unincorporated areas on signage is strange.

I've been thinking for some time now that a wide area in the Minocqua-Woodruff area should be turned into a 'City of Lakeland'.  School District there is called 'Lakeland'.

 

Do they also know that Florence, WI is unincorporated?

Mike

In that case the term "Island City" would have to go, as Woodruff is not on an island while Minocqua is (or was, until the US-51 trestle just north of downtown was built).

[triplemultiplex]

In that case the term "Island City" would have to go, as Woodruff is not on an island while Minocqua is (or was, until the US-51 trestle just north of downtown was built).

Technically, Minocqua is and has always been on a peninsula.  The railroad filled in the swamp that separated it from the 'mainland' long before any roads were built.  It was never open water to the north of "The Island".

(Queue Simpson's reference about Monster Island. )

[peterj920]

On I-41 there’s signs for the Town of Lawrence. I believe that’s the only official WISDOT sign for a township in the entire state.

[jwags]

On I-41 there’s signs for the Town of Lawrence. I believe that’s the only official WISDOT sign for a township in the entire state.

On I-94 there is an exit for Ixonia (exit 275)

[SEWIGuy]

Where is the Town of Lawrence sign?  It’s not a BGS.

If they didn’t use Ixonia on that I-94 sign, what would they use?  County F dead ends at Wi-16 and there isn’t an incorporated city close.

[gbgoose]

Where is the Town of Lawrence sign?  It’s not a BGS.

If they didn’t use Ixonia on that I-94 sign, what would they use?  County F dead ends at Wi-16 and there isn’t an incorporated city close.

The town signs for Lawrence are similar to what you'd see for a city/village limit sign on the highway. NB 41 is located upon entering into Brown County.  SB 41 just past the Main Ave exit in De Pere.

[dvferyance]

They still use Allenton for WI-33 West at I-41 although an alternative would be Horicon the next town which is incorporated. I find some unincorporated places to be bigger than some incorporated places. Wind Lake in Racine county has a population of 4,000 you can find many incorporated towns much smaller than that over the state.

[hobsini2]

They still use Allenton for WI-33 West at I-41 although an alternative would be Horicon the next town which is incorporated. I find some unincorporated places to be bigger than some incorporated places. Wind Lake in Racine county has a population of 4,000 you can find many incorporated towns much smaller than that over the state.

But for an unicorp town, Allenton doesn't look like one. It looks like a regular small town with about a dozen streets.
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.4212574,-88.3457859,15z?hl=en

To me, an real unicorp town is more like a crossroads like North Leeds in Columbia County.
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.3309452,-89.3307791,16z?hl=en

[mgk920]

They still use Allenton for WI-33 West at I-41 although an alternative would be Horicon the next town which is incorporated. I find some unincorporated places to be bigger than some incorporated places. Wind Lake in Racine county has a population of 4,000 you can find many incorporated towns much smaller than that over the state.

Wind Lake is an incorporated village.

Mike

[mgk920]

They still use Allenton for WI-33 West at I-41 although an alternative would be Horicon the next town which is incorporated. I find some unincorporated places to be bigger than some incorporated places. Wind Lake in Racine county has a population of 4,000 you can find many incorporated towns much smaller than that over the state.

But for an unicorp town, Allenton doesn't look like one. It looks like a regular small town with about a dozen streets.
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.4212574,-88.3457859,15z?hl=en

To me, an real unicorp town is more like a crossroads like North Leeds in Columbia County.
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.3309452,-89.3307791,16z?hl=en

Allenton is an unincorporated settlement in Addison Township, Washington County.  I am very surprised that it was not incorporated in the late 19th century.

Mike