ABC, CBS, FOX & NBC Have Lost More Than 77% Of Their Market Share

[kphoger]

For older stuff, look on the free services.  I'm most familiar with Pluto and Tubi.  Tubi has a lot of weird stuff, like those freaky horror movies from the 80s.

Our streaming is via Roku.  I can simply search for a movie title in the Roku itself, and it looks through all the various streaming services.  No need to search within each one separately.

[The_Ginger]

Or joining the forum, but let's not be hasty.

I'm at around 4 months here and I think reading threads like this live is way better than not being on here at all, or reading the entire thing after it's locked or over. Sometimes it's nice to know that we don't all focus on roads entirely.

[The_Ginger]

Old people watch Fox News all day.  Young people can't pay attention to anything for longer than 15 seconds.  People in between, like me, mostly want to watch older stuff.  That's the domain of non-network broadcast, basic cable, and streaming.  A lot of the stuff I like to watch is even on free streaming, where it has fewer ads than television broadcasts or cable channels you pay to watch.  To survive, the networks need to convert their programming to 10 second videos, pornography, and conspiracy theories.  If you want to compete, you have to give the people what they want.

How dare you try to get this thread back on track. 

I tried and failed a few dozen posts ago. I don't think this attempt will be any better, unfortunately.

[Max Rockatansky]

Old people watch Fox News all day.  Young people can't pay attention to anything for longer than 15 seconds.  People in between, like me, mostly want to watch older stuff.  That's the domain of non-network broadcast, basic cable, and streaming.  A lot of the stuff I like to watch is even on free streaming, where it has fewer ads than television broadcasts or cable channels you pay to watch.  To survive, the networks need to convert their programming to 10 second videos, pornography, and conspiracy theories.  If you want to compete, you have to give the people what they want.

How dare you try to get this thread back on track. 

I tried and failed a few dozen posts ago. I don't think this attempt will be any better, unfortunately.

FWIW the original topic pretty much ran its course.  I don't really know how much there is to say about the decline of TV networks beyond the obvious things already said.

[LilianaUwU]

hi im Catholic where do i fit in this body count discussion

[kphoger]

FWIW the original topic pretty much ran its course.  I don't really know how much there is to say about the decline of TV networks beyond the obvious things already said.

I mean, nobody brought up these topics yet:

- the 'doofus dad' trope
- a dearth of sitcoms with kids in a traditional nuclear family
- an increase in the number of homosexual couples

I'm sure there's plenty to say about those points, and none of the related discussion could ever become heated or controversial.

[kphoger]

hi im Catholic where do i fit in this body count discussion

Sorry, but, as a foreigner, you have no place on the spreadsheet.

[Max Rockatansky]

FWIW the original topic pretty much ran its course.  I don't really know how much there is to say about the decline of TV networks beyond the obvious things already said.

I mean, nobody brought up these topics yet:

- the 'doofus dad' trope
- a dearth of sitcoms with kids in a traditional nuclear family
- an increase in the number of homosexual couples

I'm sure there's plenty to say about those points, and none of the related discussion could ever become heated or controversial.

In my case I don't really have much to add since modern sitcoms don't really resonate with me.  My wife watches Shifting Gears which seems to exist mostly off of nostalgia for Home Improvement and Two Broke Girls.  She also watches the new Scrubs which is basically a somewhat lesser version of the original show.

[Molandfreak]

FWIW the original topic pretty much ran its course.  I don't really know how much there is to say about the decline of TV networks beyond the obvious things already said.

I mean, nobody brought up these topics yet:

- the 'doofus dad' trope
- a dearth of sitcoms with kids in a traditional nuclear family
- an increase in the number of homosexual couples

I'm sure there's plenty to say about those points, and none of the related discussion could ever become heated or controversial.

Bob's Burgers sort of subverts the first two points, though even that has been on the air 15 years.

[Rothman]

FWIW the original topic pretty much ran its course.  I don't really know how much there is to say about the decline of TV networks beyond the obvious things already said.

I mean, nobody brought up these topics yet:

- the 'doofus dad' trope
- a dearth of sitcoms with kids in a traditional nuclear family
- an increase in the number of homosexual couples

I'm sure there's plenty to say about those points, and none of the related discussion could ever become heated or controversial.

Bob's Burgers sort of subverts the first two points, though even that has been on the air 15 years.

I gave up on Bob's Burgers since it became so bland after Work Hard or Die Trying, Girl (stuck with it a few seasons after and it dawned on me that I hadn't laughed out loud in a long time, so why bother).  Still love the old clips of it, though.

[kphoger]

nostalgia for Home Improvement

heh.  Our family watches one episode a week of Last Man Standing.

[kphoger]

Sometimes it's nice to know that we don't all focus on roads entirely.

My main jams are (1) the intricacies of traffic laws and (2) roads in Mexico.  Those topics don't come up too terribly often on the forum...

[Max Rockatansky]

Sometimes it's nice to know that we don't all focus on roads entirely.

My main jams are (1) the intricacies of traffic laws and (2) roads in Mexico.  Those topics don't come up too terribly often on the forum...

Total shame regarding the latter because there is much to attempt to make sense of with roads in Mexico. 

[kphoger]

My main jams are (1) the intricacies of traffic laws and (2) roads in Mexico.  Those topics don't come up too terribly often on the forum...

Total shame regarding the latter because there is much to attempt to make sense of with roads in Mexico. 

But the former was fun when it was time to go toe-to-toe with a certain aggressive Chicago-area driver who knew just enough about the law to be wrong.

[LilianaUwU]

Sometimes it's nice to know that we don't all focus on roads entirely.

My main jams are (1) the intricacies of traffic laws and (2) roads in Mexico.  Those topics don't come up too terribly often on the forum...

Total shame regarding the latter because there is much to attempt to make sense of with roads in Mexico. 

Oklahoma wishes it were as nonsensical as Mexico.

[Max Rockatansky]

My main jams are (1) the intricacies of traffic laws and (2) roads in Mexico.  Those topics don't come up too terribly often on the forum...

Total shame regarding the latter because there is much to attempt to make sense of with roads in Mexico. 

But the former was fun when it was time to go toe-to-toe with a certain aggressive Chicago-area driver who knew just enough about the law to be wrong.

He had a Facebook page if you care to make his day even more miserable.  I had a ball egging him on after he got banned from here. 

[Rothman]

My main jams are (1) the intricacies of traffic laws and (2) roads in Mexico.  Those topics don't come up too terribly often on the forum...

Total shame regarding the latter because there is much to attempt to make sense of with roads in Mexico. 

But the former was fun when it was time to go toe-to-toe with a certain aggressive Chicago-area driver who knew just enough about the law to be wrong.

He had a Facebook page if you care to make his day even more miserable.  I had a ball egging him on after he got banned from here. 

He seems to have sort of faded back into the shadows of insignificance on my feed.

[Max Rockatansky]

My main jams are (1) the intricacies of traffic laws and (2) roads in Mexico.  Those topics don't come up too terribly often on the forum...

Total shame regarding the latter because there is much to attempt to make sense of with roads in Mexico. 

But the former was fun when it was time to go toe-to-toe with a certain aggressive Chicago-area driver who knew just enough about the law to be wrong.

He had a Facebook page if you care to make his day even more miserable.  I had a ball egging him on after he got banned from here. 

He seems to have sort of faded back into the shadows of insignificance on my feed.

I had to finally block him on our page account once he discovered us.  I wasn't going to let his brand of harassment slide with people who comment on our posts or follow us.  Prior to that he got run off from two Facebook road groups for bad behavior.

[Rothman]

My main jams are (1) the intricacies of traffic laws and (2) roads in Mexico.  Those topics don't come up too terribly often on the forum...

Total shame regarding the latter because there is much to attempt to make sense of with roads in Mexico. 

But the former was fun when it was time to go toe-to-toe with a certain aggressive Chicago-area driver who knew just enough about the law to be wrong.

He had a Facebook page if you care to make his day even more miserable.  I had a ball egging him on after he got banned from here. 

He seems to have sort of faded back into the shadows of insignificance on my feed.

I had to finally block him on our page account once he discovered us.  I wasn't going to let his brand of harassment slide with people who comment on our posts or follow us.  Prior to that he got run off from two Facebook road groups for bad behavior.

I did see him pop up from time-to-time on a certain group rather benignly, but I think people just ignoring him on that one sent him looking for greener pastures.

[Max Rockatansky]

My main jams are (1) the intricacies of traffic laws and (2) roads in Mexico.  Those topics don't come up too terribly often on the forum...

Total shame regarding the latter because there is much to attempt to make sense of with roads in Mexico. 

But the former was fun when it was time to go toe-to-toe with a certain aggressive Chicago-area driver who knew just enough about the law to be wrong.

He had a Facebook page if you care to make his day even more miserable.  I had a ball egging him on after he got banned from here. 

He seems to have sort of faded back into the shadows of insignificance on my feed.

I had to finally block him on our page account once he discovered us.  I wasn't going to let his brand of harassment slide with people who comment on our posts or follow us.  Prior to that he got run off from two Facebook road groups for bad behavior.

I did see him pop up from time-to-time on a certain group rather benignly, but I think people just ignoring him on that one sent him looking for greener pastures.

I forget which one of our groups he tried to join but I ended up denying him.  I don't think he ever really understood that for the most part off forum he was still dealing with people who knew who he was.  The mainstream of this hobby is extremely small and word gets around.

Speaking of blocking when I noticed Calrog in FreewayJim I took quick action to block him from our Facebook page.  Given he was a California person I didn't want him trying to get all territorial or like a know it all with our stuff.  I never even directly interacted with him but still knew who he was.   

There is on occasion hobby regulars who make weird comments on our page or try to stir problems up.  For the most I just hide their comments and they are none the wiser.

[Max Rockatansky]

Sometimes it's nice to know that we don't all focus on roads entirely.

My main jams are (1) the intricacies of traffic laws and (2) roads in Mexico.  Those topics don't come up too terribly often on the forum...

Total shame regarding the latter because there is much to attempt to make sense of with roads in Mexico. 

Oklahoma wishes it were as nonsensical as Mexico.

Chaos doesn't seem to intrigue much in the hobby mainstream.  If you constant chaotic variance with road standards then Mexico is the place.  Me personally I find it to be a blast to drive on and research dissect.

[Molandfreak]

Sometimes it's nice to know that we don't all focus on roads entirely.

My main jams are (1) the intricacies of traffic laws and (2) roads in Mexico.  Those topics don't come up too terribly often on the forum...

Total shame regarding the latter because there is much to attempt to make sense of with roads in Mexico. 

Oklahoma wishes it were as nonsensical as Mexico.

Chaos doesn't seem to intrigue much in the hobby mainstream.  If you constant chaotic variance with road standards then Mexico is the place.  Me personally I find it to be a blast to drive on and research dissect.

Tell that to future I-343.

[Max Rockatansky]

Sometimes it's nice to know that we don't all focus on roads entirely.

My main jams are (1) the intricacies of traffic laws and (2) roads in Mexico.  Those topics don't come up too terribly often on the forum...

Total shame regarding the latter because there is much to attempt to make sense of with roads in Mexico. 

Oklahoma wishes it were as nonsensical as Mexico.

Chaos doesn't seem to intrigue much in the hobby mainstream.  If you constant chaotic variance with road standards then Mexico is the place.  Me personally I find it to be a blast to drive on and research dissect.

Tell that to future I-343.

In Mexico figuring out which highway number is you are on sometimes is a surprising challenge.  Federal Highways often disappear and reappear without much rationale explanation.  They also often just disappear at large cities completely and functionally have gaps.

[Molandfreak]

Sometimes it's nice to know that we don't all focus on roads entirely.

My main jams are (1) the intricacies of traffic laws and (2) roads in Mexico.  Those topics don't come up too terribly often on the forum...

Total shame regarding the latter because there is much to attempt to make sense of with roads in Mexico. 

Oklahoma wishes it were as nonsensical as Mexico.

Chaos doesn't seem to intrigue much in the hobby mainstream.  If you constant chaotic variance with road standards then Mexico is the place.  Me personally I find it to be a blast to drive on and research dissect.

Tell that to future I-343.

Federal Highways often disappear and reappear without much rationale explanation.   

Tell that to US 422. 

[Takumi]

hi im Catholic where do i fit in this body count discussion

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