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Re: Ontario's Highways
« Reply #1050 on: October 01, 2018, 04:32:27 PM »

I know BC tends to build narrower highways, but I wouldn't consider BC to be the hallmark of good highway design either.

Lol that's putting it lightly. they can build a damn good expressway, but freeway? An urban freeway, sure. But rural? No, Ontario's kind of got that in the bag.

With that said, I would say the Europeans probably have the best freeways, and they usually have pretty narrow medians. Doubt there's really any correlation, especially as Ontario uses plenty of narrow medians in metro areas too.
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Re: Ontario's Highways
« Reply #1051 on: October 21, 2018, 03:06:59 PM »



Freeway Franks does a tour on ON-6.
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Re: Ontario's Highways
« Reply #1052 on: October 22, 2018, 10:38:02 AM »

With that said, I would say the Europeans probably have the best freeways, and they usually have pretty narrow medians. Doubt there's really any correlation, especially as Ontario uses plenty of narrow medians in metro areas too.

European farm sizes used to be pretty small during the freeway construction era, so they wanted to take as little land as needed. At that time the output per hectare was also much lower than present-day, so they needed large farming areas to feed the population. The higher land values also made a median barrier instead of a wide grassy median more profitable despite the higher construction cost.

Canadian farms are larger than European ones, the average farm size in Saskatchewan is over 700 hectares, while it is only some 55 hectares in France and Germany and that is an historic high as farms became mechanized and consolidated into larger operations over the past 50 years.

Wide medians were never common in Europe, even in sparsely populated rural areas of France and Spain they typically don't have a wide median. There are some wide medians here and there but they aren't the norm.

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Re: Ontario's Highways
« Reply #1053 on: November 02, 2018, 01:31:49 PM »

A few recent photos of the Highway 401 widening project through Western Mississauga taken during October:

They diverted traffic to the eastbound collector lanes a few weeks ago through the Mavis Road interchange.  For whatever reason they only made the temporary ramp to the Express Lanes between Mavis and Hurontario a single lane ramp.  I don't know why they thought that would be a good idea, traffic is totally snarled on the eastbound 401 for pretty much all hours of the day now.  They made the same mistake during the project to open extend the collectors through Hurontario a few years ago and that was a nightmare too.

The eastbound collector lanes opened last night through Mavis Road.  I took a bunch of photos of the construction this morning, but I'm going to start first with this one:


http://www.asphaltplanet.ca/ON/hwy_401_images/401_cl_337_east_C_Oct22-18_24x16.jpg

The ramp to the westbound 403 from the eastbound 401 also opened last month.  they still haven't surfaced the opposite ramp from the eastbound 403 to the westbound 401 yet, so it'll probably be a few weeks before that connection finally opens to traffic.


http://www.asphaltplanet.ca/ON/hwy_401_images/401_cl_343_east_offramp_Oct18_24x16.jpg

From what I understand they are planning on opening the westbound collector lanes through Mavis this weekend.  If the weather is decent I think I'm going to go out that way on Sunday and take a look.
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Re: Ontario's Highways
« Reply #1055 on: November 23, 2018, 06:43:47 AM »

Well this is frustrating: https://www.therecord.com/news-story/9046662-new-highway-7-between-waterloo-region-and-guelph-delayed-again/. I hope this project doesn't meet the chopping block.
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Re: Ontario's Highways
« Reply #1056 on: November 24, 2018, 09:52:26 AM »

For The People.

Already approved transportation infrastructure projects should not be changed / cancelled by a new government. It should not be a partisan issue.
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Re: Ontario's Highways
« Reply #1057 on: November 24, 2018, 09:56:44 AM »

I might just be being hopeful here, but my thought is that Highway 7 New is going to go to construction, the PC's are probably just flexing their muscles a little bit and are going to make both the NDP and one green representative use up a little bit of political capital to get it built.  But, who knows, that's just my hope.

Back before McGuinty took his first term, the then Eve's government had started widening projects for both Highway 12/48 near Beaverton and Highway 7/35 near Lindsay that the Liberals never saw to completion, so it's not as if partisanship in pavement politics is new.  Unfortunately.
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Re: Ontario's Highways
« Reply #1058 on: November 26, 2018, 07:56:37 AM »



And now Asphalt Highways does a segment on Ontario 403.
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Re: Ontario's Highways
« Reply #1059 on: November 29, 2018, 09:17:32 AM »

From what I've heard basically every expansion project is under review now - twinning Hwy 69, the 417 extension, KW-Guelph freeway, etc.
If you're dealing with a deficit it's due diligence to take a look at everything.

The other cynical approach to it is by saying they're reviewing it given the new government the opportunity to announce it all over again.
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Re: Ontario's Highways
« Reply #1060 on: November 29, 2018, 10:34:38 AM »

I rather wish the current government would review the system for distribution of MTO tender drawings.  The annual subscription fee of $250 is now gone, but it is still necessary to prove licensure or incorporation and good standing with tax authorities.  Access to the drawings should be decoupled from entitlement to tender, as is increasingly the norm in other Canadian provinces, most US states, and an increasing number of foreign countries.
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Re: Ontario's Highways
« Reply #1061 on: December 04, 2018, 09:46:50 AM »

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Re: Ontario's Highways
« Reply #1062 on: December 05, 2018, 03:06:15 PM »

I don't have any pics, but there's been some serious construction action for the long awaited Hwy 427 extension as we speak. I notice a roughed in ramp from EB Rutherford to SB 427. As well as zenway having a roughed in temporary alignment south of the current intersection with Zenway and RR-99, which is obviously done to build an overpass for Zenway.

I haven't looked at the drawings in years, as in 2010 or so. But if I recall, is the plan to close off access to Zenway permanently and have Langstaff as the interchange? I know it sounds like a n00b question, but I'm just trying to make sure.
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Re: Ontario's Highways
« Reply #1063 on: December 06, 2018, 09:19:11 AM »

It's always worth asking, projects change all the time - especially alternative delivery ones like this.

At this point though those aspects of the project have not changed - still plan to grade separate Zenway with new interchanges at Langstaff, Rutherford, and Major Mack.
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Re: Ontario's Highways
« Reply #1064 on: February 10, 2019, 09:51:51 PM »

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Re: Ontario's Highways
« Reply #1065 on: March 19, 2019, 10:49:51 AM »

Huron Church Road (Hwy 3) between the EC Row and the Ambassador Bridge is gonna suuuuuuuuuck this summer.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/planned-huron-church-construction-noise-worries-residents-business-owners-1.5035190
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Re: Ontario's Highways
« Reply #1066 on: March 19, 2019, 10:11:01 PM »

Visiting Ontario's oldest bridge, the Lyndhurst Bridge. Located in the eastern part of the province, this stone arch bridge was built in 1857.
https://www.gribblenation.org/2019/03/lyndhurst-bridge.html
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Re: Ontario's Highways
« Reply #1067 on: April 16, 2019, 05:20:25 PM »

Come travel the Loyalist Parkway, a scenic drive near Lake Ontario between Trenton and Kingston, Ontario.
https://www.gribblenation.org/2019/04/loyalist-parkway.html
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Re: Ontario's Highways
« Reply #1068 on: May 01, 2019, 10:50:08 AM »

CHCH reporting on potential speed limit increase:
"Minister Yurek says speed limit on 400 series highways could be raised from 100 kph. Details next week."
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Re: Ontario's Highways
« Reply #1069 on: May 02, 2019, 12:34:35 AM »

I can't believe they're finally do this! I never thought I'd see the day where Ontario would FINALLY raise their speed limits. It should be 120 or even 130 km/h on rural freeways and 110 in suburban areas. Only urban freeways like the DVP and Gardiner Expressway should have 100 km/h speed limits, but they're probably lower than that currently.

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Re: Ontario's Highways
« Reply #1070 on: May 03, 2019, 12:27:29 PM »

The real question is whether the increased speed limits would actually be enforced. They already don't enforce 100... I routinely do 115-120 down the 401 and still get passed by almost everyone.
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Re: Ontario's Highways
« Reply #1071 on: May 03, 2019, 01:05:14 PM »

This sounds like a legalization of existing practice. If they raise the speed limit to 120 and enforce from 130, things wouldn't change much, would they?

Speed limits are raised all over the place. Many U.S. states have raised the speed limits over the past 10 years, and many European countries have raised the speed limit, for example Norway to 110, Netherlands to 130, Spain from 110 to 120 after they temporarily reduced it, Poland and Bulgaria to 140, Austria has trialled 140 and 160, Sweden has a permanent 'trial' of 120, Denmark raised it from 110 to 130, all over the past 10-15 years. Even Japan is trialling 110 and 120 km/h and I believe New Zealand is also raising the speed limit now that they have more rural motorway mileage.

Ontario and Québec are the outliers here, with a 100 km/h rural freeway speed limit.

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Re: Ontario's Highways
« Reply #1072 on: May 04, 2019, 06:06:06 PM »

Ontario and Québec are the outliers here, with a 100 km/h rural freeway speed limit.

Yeah, and that's the same speed limit East Germany had.

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Re: Ontario's Highways
« Reply #1073 on: May 10, 2019, 10:34:00 PM »

It's official: 402, most of 417, and a chunk of QEW to go up to 110 km/h as part of a two year pilot program. 
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Re: Ontario's Highways
« Reply #1074 on: May 13, 2019, 09:54:29 PM »

^ That's a step in the right direction. But I'm surprised that there's not more freeways than that being raised to 110 km/h. I hope this is followed up with more increased speed limits.

 


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