Roads that none of us will live to see built

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codyg1985

Quote from: Grzrd on August 10, 2012, 01:22:53 PM
Quote from: codyg1985 on August 10, 2012, 01:13:36 PM
The Memphis-Huntsville-Atlanta highway isn't gonna happen, either ... Georgia has enough to worry about in Atlanta.

Agreed, plus the Alabama state line to I-75 section of the M-H-A highway has been viewed by the anti-Northern Arc activists as a back-door "first step" for the Northern Arc and any serious attempt to build it would be vigorously contested.

I could possibly see that being built, which may at least give the project more attention in Alabama. Currently only the northern part of the state feels it is a priority. I really don't think Mississippi is interested, however.
Cody Goodman
Huntsville, AL, United States


Mr_Northside

#126
Quote from: deanej on August 10, 2012, 12:14:29 PM
Quote from: Roadsguy on August 09, 2012, 10:03:46 AM
-The rest of I-99: north of 80 and south of the Turnpike
Actually, it's almost done north of Williamsport (just waiting on a segment under construction in NY).  Too bad PennDOT won't sign both segments while waiting on the US 220 upgrades between I-80 and Williamsport (what's really shameful is that not many upgrades are needed

While I certainly wouldn't bet money on it, once NY is done with what they have to do, I wouldn't be at all surprised if Williamsport-Painted Post gets signed as I-99 not too long after.  Even if PennDOT would be content to wait years (decades?) leaving it as just US-15, New York might push to get the I-99 shields up rather quickly.

Obviously, I have NO inside information to base that on, but most of the press releases / articles I've read out of NY in the last couple of years (on the current work, and the I-86 interchange project before that) touted them as bringing I-99 to New York.  If PennDOT had a firm, reasonable timetable for I-80 <-> Williamsport, waiting would be one thing.  But it's languishing in a state of "deferred" limbo might just lead them to not wait at all.  And based on the signings of I-86, New York has no problem with disconnected interstates. 

Some motivation from NY, and possibly some PA State Lawmakers from that northern part of the state, might just convince PennDOT to sign it as I-99.
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NE2

Wasn't a piece of the Rome Bypass portion of this MHA highway recently built?
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codyg1985

Quote from: NE2 on August 10, 2012, 01:56:29 PM
Wasn't a piece of the Rome Bypass portion of this MHA highway recently built?

I don't know if it's part of the MHA, but part of it is built, and other than U-turns in the median, it appears to be built to interstate standards (at least the east-west portion of it) for if more of the road is ever built. Here is a Bing Maps link: http://binged.it/O92uWH
Cody Goodman
Huntsville, AL, United States

hbelkins

Quote from: deanej on August 10, 2012, 12:14:29 PM
At one time it was indeed proposed to go to I-68, though it never left the "this might be something to look into" stage.

Actually, what happened was Pennsylvania diverted the ARC money that was to be used for the upgrade of US 220 to I-99 between Bedford and the state line, and used it for a portion of US 322 (I think between I-80 and Port Matilda).
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vdeane

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Quote from: Mr_Northside on August 10, 2012, 01:54:03 PM
Quote from: deanej on August 10, 2012, 12:14:29 PM
Quote from: Roadsguy on August 09, 2012, 10:03:46 AM
-The rest of I-99: north of 80 and south of the Turnpike
Actually, it's almost done north of Williamsport (just waiting on a segment under construction in NY).  Too bad PennDOT won't sign both segments while waiting on the US 220 upgrades between I-80 and Williamsport (what's really shameful is that not many upgrades are needed

While I certainly wouldn't bet money on it, once NY is done with what they have to do, I wouldn't be at all surprised if Williamsport-Painted Post gets signed as I-99 not too long after.  Even if PennDOT would be content to wait years (decades?) leaving it as just US-15, New York might push to get the I-99 shields up rather quickly.

Obviously, I have NO inside information to base that on, but most of the press releases / articles I've read out of NY in the last couple of years (on the current work, and the I-86 interchange project before that) touted them as bringing I-99 to New York.  If PennDOT had a firm, reasonable timetable for I-80 <-> Williamsport, waiting would be one thing.  But it's languishing in a state of "deferred" limbo might just lead them to not wait at all.  And based on the signings of I-86, New York has no problem with disconnected interstates. 

Some motivation from NY, and possibly some PA State Lawmakers from that northern part of the state, might just convince PennDOT to sign it as I-99.
Funny thing about that eastern I-86 segment in Binghamton... it's barely signed and not in the route log.  I suspect NYSDOT got it designated only because region 9 jumped the gun and erected a couple guide signs with I-86 shields on I-81 north and they were tired of covering the shields.  I wouldn't be surprised if region 8 does the same thing in a few years with its covered-up shields.

NYSDOT also doesn't like leaving multiplexes like PennDOT does; region 6 in particular decommissioned a bit of NY 15 to remove the pointless I-390/I-86 multiplexes, and is in the process of removing NY 17 signs from I-86.  NYSDOT has expressed a desire to decommission US 15 to Williamsport, but PennDOT doesn't want to, and AASHTO won't allow US 15 to end at the state line.
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mgk920

The Darien Gap in the Pan American Highway?

:hmmm:

Mike

kphoger

Quote from: mgk920 on August 14, 2012, 04:42:08 PM
The Darien Gap in the Pan American Highway?

:hmmm:

Mike

I wouldn't totally count this one out.  It has quite a bit of support.

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vdeane

Senator Keating Blvd, which is supposed to run between Clinton Ave and Winton Rd along I-590 and is still in the town plan.  NYSDOT plans assume it will be done by 2040.  It doesn't look like the town has any present motivation to get it done ever.
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oldblue910

I definitely agree on I-73 and 74. There is roughly an ice cube's chance in Hell that either of those will go further north or west than the Carolinas.
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roadman65

Quote from: oldblue910 on October 19, 2012, 09:19:01 AM
I definitely agree on I-73 and 74. There is roughly an ice cube's chance in Hell that either of those will go further north or west than the Carolinas.
I would say I-81 at Roanoke, VA and the VA Line for I-74.

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ljwestmcsd

Agree on I-73, I-74, and I-66  [Kentucky used to have "future I-66" lines on its state map, but has recently removed them.]

To add a new one, I also doubt we will see the Makenzie Highway extension (http://www.dot.gov.nt.ca/_live/documents/content/MVH%20Overview%20Map.pdf)

There was also a proposal for a "Heartland Parkway" along KY 55 roughly half-way between I-65 and I-75, but I don't know if was seriously considered enough to be rightly included in this category. Same with I-175 between Chattanooga and Lexington.

roadman65

I-66 was dead before it even started.  I knew that thing would roll over.  I think an extension of I-30  into KY would be built centuries before I-66 would even get funding.
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thenetwork

6 Pages of Roads we won't see in our lifetime, and not once has the King of Them All has been mentioned:


<drum roll>

The I-70 "Breezewood Bypass". :bigass:

vdeane

That would be an interchange none of us will live to see built.
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NE2

pre-1945 Florida route log

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jwolfer

The portion of the First Coast Outer Beltway(SR 23) from SR 21 to I-95 south of Jacksonville FL.  The portion from I-10 to SR 21 is partially built and has construction but I dont think the toll revenues will meet expectations especially with a new bridge over the St Johns River at Green Cove Springs

Laura

I have two to add, both on US 29 in Virginia:

The Western Bypass (Charlottesville)
The Southern Extension of the Lynchburg/Madison Heights Bypass

There has been a revival of studies surrounding the Western Bypass, but I'm not holding my breath. I really hope that eventually maybe they'll be able to bypass the god-awful northern Charlottesville shopping strip. I feel like every time I drive on it, there's another traffic light and another mall being built.

As for the Lynchburg one, I don't think the demand is there. Sure, the wrong-way concurrency multiplex of US 29-460-501 (north-east-south and south-west-north) gets uncomfortably crowded, but with recent fixes to upgrade the developed section New-Jersey style (no left turns, jughandles, business access on one side of road), I don't know if the southern expressway is necessary. Plus, it would be a shot in the foot for Lynchburg economically (since thru traffic would be completely diverted from the city a couple of miles east) at its current size. At least now, all traffic is routed through the southern edge of the city (near all the typical chain restaurants and stores).

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vdeane

We have US 400, so I wouldn't be so sure...
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agentsteel53

we will probably never see another US Route V, unless Missouri screws up again.
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Roadsguy

Quote from: deanej on October 26, 2012, 10:05:58 AM
We have US 400, so I wouldn't be so sure...

Why did AASHTO approve a US 400? :-D

Quote from: agentsteel53 on October 26, 2012, 11:21:25 AM
we will probably never see another US Route V, unless Missouri screws up again.

What...?
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Henry

The western end of I-22...because of all the flip-flopping that's been going on in the Memphis area.
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BamaZeus

Quote from: NE2 on October 22, 2012, 11:15:34 AM
The moon elevator.

That will be completed around the same time as the trans-Siberian/Alaskan bridge/railway/tunnel



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