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National Boards => General Highway Talk => Traffic Control => Topic started by: mass_citizen on December 04, 2013, 10:46:35 PM

Title: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mass_citizen on December 04, 2013, 10:46:35 PM
So since the "Worst of" thread seems to be getting filled with signs that are not "Worst of" I decided to create this. This is for all those interesting, odd, unique, bad (but not worst) and good (but not best) signs. I personally like looking at signs of all types and I think this is a good spot for those that are worth looking at, but not necessarily one of the extremes.

I'll submit one here:

http://goo.gl/maps/9RqdD

The arrow on this just looks way too long to me. Its almost as if they were trying to justify it with the legend. Thank god they didn't use the full spelling of Marlborough
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on December 04, 2013, 10:54:27 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/pjObipl.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: sammi on December 04, 2013, 10:56:22 PM
http://goo.gl/maps/9RqdD

The arrow on this just looks way too long to me. Its almost as if they were trying to justify it with the legend. Thank god they didn't use the full spelling of Marlborough

Marlboro. ugh. :spin:

Isn't the arrow on that sign supposed to be the one pointing to the upper-right? Like the ones on overhead exit signs?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mass_citizen on December 05, 2013, 12:08:10 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/pjObipl.jpg)

Now that's the idea!!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mass_citizen on December 05, 2013, 12:10:04 AM
http://goo.gl/maps/9RqdD

The arrow on this just looks way too long to me. Its almost as if they were trying to justify it with the legend. Thank god they didn't use the full spelling of Marlborough

Marlboro. ugh. :spin:

Isn't the arrow on that sign supposed to be the one pointing to the upper-right? Like the ones on overhead exit signs?

The WB entrance a few hundred feet prior has the long arrow on one side for left turners and the diagonal arrow you are referring to on the other side

http://goo.gl/maps/gq0zY
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1 on December 05, 2013, 02:41:24 PM
Going south on I-495 in Massachusetts, between exits 31 and 30, the shields for 2A and 110 on the exit sign are different fonts.

My picture is a bit strange because Google Maps censored I-495 going south.

http://goo.gl/maps/jpjB4
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mass_citizen on December 05, 2013, 04:10:22 PM
looks like maybe the 2A fell off or deteriorated and was replaced with that larger bolder font.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on December 05, 2013, 04:38:34 PM
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/714/21071890684_a6d571c73b_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/y73WY5)

Condo association was told they couldn't have an impaled head-on-a-stick, so they improvised.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman on December 05, 2013, 04:50:23 PM
Going south on I-495 in Massachusetts, between exits 31 and 30, the shields for 2A and 110 on the exit sign are different fonts.

My picture is a bit strange because Google Maps censored I-495 going south.

http://goo.gl/maps/jpjB4
More likely, it was just that the GSV guy hasn't yet driven both sides of the road.  I run into that problem quite often when using GSV.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mass_citizen on December 05, 2013, 04:57:34 PM
Condo association was hold they couldn't have an impaled head-on-a-stick, so they improvised.

LOL. love improvisation.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: getemngo on December 05, 2013, 04:59:39 PM
Going south on I-495 in Massachusetts, between exits 31 and 30, the shields for 2A and 110 on the exit sign are different fonts.

My picture is a bit strange because Google Maps censored I-495 going south.

http://goo.gl/maps/jpjB4
More likely, it was just that the GSV guy hasn't yet driven both sides of the road.  I run into that problem quite often when using GSV.

At first I thought you meant the numbers "495" were censored somewhere, which the software sometimes does automatically, thinking it's a license plate.

That is weird... the blackout goes from the south end of Exit 32 to just north of Exit 27. Usually if it hasn't been driven, it won't let you place the marker there at all. And all the southbound on-/off-ramps in that stretch have been driven and are fine. Technical difficulties?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman on December 05, 2013, 05:01:48 PM
http://goo.gl/maps/9RqdD

The arrow on this just looks way too long to me. Its almost as if they were trying to justify it with the legend. Thank god they didn't use the full spelling of Marlborough

Marlboro. ugh. :spin:

Isn't the arrow on that sign supposed to be the one pointing to the upper-right? Like the ones on overhead exit signs?

One of the peculiarities of MassDPW/MassHighway guide sign standards.  As the sign in question is inside the gore of an entrance ramp to a freeway, it's treated like an oversized "paddle" sign - hence the horizontal arrow as opposed to a slanted one.

As for Marlboro vs. Marlborough, the shorter spelling is still understood by drivers, and MassHighway was probably able to knock a foot or two off the panel width.  Not a big deal with only one sign, but when you consider the typical Massachusetts signing project has between 200 and 300 major guide signs alone, that difference can add up quickly.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1 on December 05, 2013, 05:06:46 PM
That is weird... the blackout goes from the south end of Exit 32 to just north of Exit 27. Usually if it hasn't been driven, it won't let you place the marker there at all. And all the southbound on-/off-ramps in that stretch have been driven and are fine. Technical difficulties?

Seems to go as far north as exit 40.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on December 05, 2013, 05:23:31 PM
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c378/1995hoo/Road%20sign%20pictures/3ef25b53.jpg)

(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c378/1995hoo/Road%20sign%20pictures/d282dc50.jpg)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on December 05, 2013, 06:39:11 PM
Best Goog censoring:
http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=34.751856,-92.3304&spn=0.007149,0.014173&gl=us&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=34.751522,-92.330442&panoid=EJw5sv7O7imwVPd7zudcbQ&cbp=12,168.89,,2,2.07
Good god y'all.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on December 05, 2013, 09:05:16 PM
^ The Aggression and Extreme Prejudice Towards Others, Possibly Involving a Cardinal Direction; I tells 'ya.

Or, Armstrong Flower Fields in Carlsbad, California (https://www.google.com/maps?ll=33.122133,-117.316067&spn=0.01125,0.01929&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=33.122128,-117.315928&panoid=neK1pvJqMMXBrRZA8F7YIA&cbp=12,271.22,,0,1.5). The only time I've seen artwork to complement a couple of BGSs:

(http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Fuoho5AhCj0Zn54vtPCLth6JL5e6Que2IT6Dz00ICO_47i4OZ4taar-sgFloPyZyHdYzpE9pVkjCXe1l7iiXdM7MoEd0MY3MAoIlv7lCCR5hoiDTw0d9aHevKGUMX3f6dotG1-hOJoLZ3Mlljj4Sqev_F8PicRXNlQ2BIElwl1c0OaRkGKtINhcC9JaJvtsOliHp2jg54LG-Ew7RVRd8zKBcdTM2pjDvndvlAjaiKRLS1ZQFNUdBF0oRBlAfdfdhGy5SN3yTMtlUpUfu9hYWPQq1KS4xKAH1txXo3IS5NP91Vj0olHs2jbU647Cm3IGGHC7_09Y9E73Vp14vSkYyVUMiuAoIzxXwGjkNnrkvoX4Dd2KNSPJQ8XXCTZOK5ODk9bqoyKmfzS3mGLl-ovkBtvT-jME6C6K8QFIdXIkvgfpAKktH_8s0DKIekV_QbE_Iug9ZDfA6YLAYWBHIi6LI4Tl2LE7DWRxlQFAsSsUKa2p_y8Dg8eEaKfz-MPJs3CVHh8GWF9kiB59Cv0dnti3TTYMWpV6TclRW5H-kllknQ9SSz8etqqtLr54XkTg8cL9RXOOOApz2CmxqQiFklArTvHkgRbFWSDAJVtofjdlT_R8jMYc2DG3J3RfW=w800-h533-no)


Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Signal on December 05, 2013, 09:08:54 PM
My meager contribution... an odd ONE WAY and LTYOG combo sign:

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2820/11198344835_478bd62c8d_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/94611454@N02/11198344835/)
8" 5-section Chapel Hill signal, 12"; DW-W Chapel Hill ped, Odd Combo Sign (http://www.flickr.com/photos/94611454@N02/11198344835/) by Signals Unlimited (http://www.flickr.com/people/94611454@N02/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: english si on December 05, 2013, 09:38:25 PM
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c378/1995hoo/Road%20sign%20pictures/d282dc50.jpg)
This sign is the 'Welcome to Nimbyia' sign!

Bunny ears (https://maps.google.com/?ll=52.331143,-1.736956&spn=0.031838,0.084543&t=m&z=14&layer=c&cbll=52.331332,-1.75334&panoid=1xxxYfmojM9yshuaqJgKUg&cbp=12,263.81,,0,0.92) showing that you need to move left to turn right...
(http://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/wiki/images/8/8d/M42_Motorway_Splits%2C_Crazy_Road_Sign_-_%22It_Could_Be_You%3F%22_-_Geograph_-_1283020.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on December 05, 2013, 11:07:26 PM
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7150/6602560053_4c0e7a2b58_z_d.jpg)
Ugly fonts in Oklahoma
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mass_citizen on December 06, 2013, 02:40:44 AM
looks like everyone gets the idea! keep em coming!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Billy F 1988 on December 06, 2013, 06:17:50 AM
Whoever put those football jersey type numbers on the US 64 sign must have been either an OU Sooners fan or an OSU Cowboys fan.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: The High Plains Traveler on December 06, 2013, 10:57:57 AM
Bunny ears (https://maps.google.com/?ll=52.331143,-1.736956&spn=0.031838,0.084543&t=m&z=14&layer=c&cbll=52.331332,-1.75334&panoid=1xxxYfmojM9yshuaqJgKUg&cbp=12,263.81,,0,0.92) showing that you need to move left to turn right...
(http://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/wiki/images/8/8d/M42_Motorway_Splits%2C_Crazy_Road_Sign_-_%22It_Could_Be_You%3F%22_-_Geograph_-_1283020.jpg)
So, basically, a British jughandle.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on December 06, 2013, 11:06:07 AM
No, it's on a motorway. There's an overpass where they cross.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Central Avenue on December 06, 2013, 11:09:25 AM
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7369/8993727962_57db782802_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: txstateends on December 06, 2013, 12:03:55 PM
Going south on I-495 in Massachusetts, between exits 31 and 30, the shields for 2A and 110 on the exit sign are different fonts.

My picture is a bit strange because Google Maps censored I-495 going south.

http://goo.gl/maps/jpjB4
More likely, it was just that the GSV guy hasn't yet driven both sides of the road.  I run into that problem quite often when using GSV.

At first I thought you meant the numbers "495" were censored somewhere, which the software sometimes does automatically, thinking it's a license plate.

That is weird... the blackout goes from the south end of Exit 32 to just north of Exit 27. Usually if it hasn't been driven, it won't let you place the marker there at all. And all the southbound on-/off-ramps in that stretch have been driven and are fine. Technical difficulties?

Maybe they should have gone to Walgreens to have their photos developed instead of CVS?? :D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: txstateends on December 06, 2013, 12:11:45 PM
Best Goog censoring:
http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=34.751856,-92.3304&spn=0.007149,0.014173&gl=us&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=34.751522,-92.330442&panoid=EJw5sv7O7imwVPd7zudcbQ&cbp=12,168.89,,2,2.07
Good god y'all.

That "sculpture" above it looks like something I'd do on paper if my pen was trying to run out of ink... :-/
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on December 06, 2013, 12:17:21 PM
Some kind of warning sign in "nowhere, Mississippi"
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2417/2364137464_3b0c6a4c5a_z_d.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Signal on December 06, 2013, 04:53:18 PM
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7369/8993727962_57db782802_c.jpg)

That's awesome... where is it?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: renegade on December 06, 2013, 05:02:22 PM
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7369/8993727962_57db782802_c.jpg)

We certainly could use something like that here in southeast Michigan.  It seems like they are slapping up sensor-activated traffic signals anyplace they want, and most of them do not work.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: english si on December 06, 2013, 07:53:41 PM
No, it's on a motorway. There's an overpass where they cross.
Yes and it appears on the sign as very thin gaps in the line.

It's a semi-directional T
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Central Avenue on December 07, 2013, 08:16:49 AM
That's awesome... where is it?

Worthington, Ohio.

They have a couple variations around the city:

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2880/8992542221_1bcd7eae76_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on December 07, 2013, 09:00:47 AM
That would be VERY helpful on a bike.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on December 07, 2013, 01:21:22 PM
Bunny ears (https://maps.google.com/?ll=52.331143,-1.736956&spn=0.031838,0.084543&t=m&z=14&layer=c&cbll=52.331332,-1.75334&panoid=1xxxYfmojM9yshuaqJgKUg&cbp=12,263.81,,0,0.92) showing that you need to move left to turn right...
(http://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/wiki/images/8/8d/M42_Motorway_Splits%2C_Crazy_Road_Sign_-_%22It_Could_Be_You%3F%22_-_Geograph_-_1283020.jpg)

I think it's amusing that the corner of the sign appears to be buried in the embankment…

Also, what's with the thick boxes?  Are those parts changeable or something?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: english si on December 07, 2013, 01:30:18 PM
Also, what's with the thick boxes?  Are those parts changeable or something?
Yes, the M6 route can be either way around Birmingham - slightly shorter via the east and north sides but slightly quieter via the south and west sides. I believe the M42 West direction says '(M6 North)' though I've not seen it. I doubt it now changes, due to the M6 Toll and the attempt to get you to travel around Birmingham on that road.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on December 07, 2013, 04:06:37 PM
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3407/3203182016_9c5844f698_z_d.jpg?zz=1)
Anorexic 380 in Roswell, NM
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on December 07, 2013, 04:54:28 PM
Looks like someone designed a decent 70 spec wide shield, then realized they didn't have a wide piece of sheet metal to put it on…
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Thing 342 on December 08, 2013, 02:50:44 PM
Near Winchester, VA:
(http://www.ezimba.com/work/131209C/ezimba12455842165800.jpg)

Good: Cutout shields.
Bad: 81 is off-center (almost as if a state-named shield had the state name covered up), and the 'To' is missing.
Ugly: The insanely squished (and almost unreadable) directional banners.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on December 08, 2013, 07:07:16 PM
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3043/2889158303_95dbb237f5_z_d.jpg)

US 56 near Kansas City, MO
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Billy F 1988 on December 08, 2013, 07:57:20 PM
Wah! Uber-shit-stain-ugly! I mean, if you thought the "US 200" sign at the Wye in Missoula was a pile of fail, heh! This tops the cake!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on December 08, 2013, 10:39:54 PM
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3043/2889158303_95dbb237f5_z_d.jpg)

US 56 near Kansas City, MO

Ewwwwwwwwwwww. How exactly does this end up happening? I mean, don't you think whoever is putting the assembly up would look at it and go, "Wait a minute, something isn't right here..."?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: txstateends on December 09, 2013, 01:30:26 PM
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3043/2889158303_95dbb237f5_z_d.jpg)

US 56 near Kansas City, MO

While we're all running for our stomach meds, *please* say this is just short-sightedness on a local city's part, and not utter-mega-holy-crap-stupidity from a DOT (MO or KS).....
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on December 09, 2013, 02:18:59 PM
I think Kansas City maintains US 56 in Missouri.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on December 09, 2013, 03:03:57 PM
http://goo.gl/maps/Mn4sI

How the I-4 shield on the WB sign got to be 50% larger than the EB shield is a complete mystery, and so is the arrow on the EB sign that looks to be much smaller than the pullthrough arrows.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mass_citizen on December 14, 2013, 02:58:14 PM
http://goo.gl/maps/TnKVV

It's fundamental!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: theline on December 14, 2013, 07:36:08 PM
^^ Creeping sharia law?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on December 14, 2013, 10:29:28 PM
The only truly fundamental speed law is c.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: The High Plains Traveler on December 15, 2013, 11:55:01 AM
I think Kansas City maintains US 56 in Missouri.
The U.S. 56 shields where it intersects (and ends at) U.S. 71 are normal, MoDOT issue. The ugly ones are all along the remainder of the route in KCMO, and I believe NE2 is correct that it's city signage.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mass_citizen on December 15, 2013, 08:17:21 PM
This is just plain ugly...

http://goo.gl/maps/qwM6B

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: sammi on December 19, 2013, 06:12:13 PM
Will I find a sign like this in the States? (EDIT: Source (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ronrag/11047421175/))

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1/q77/s720x720/1526524_564999760248146_330572673_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on December 19, 2013, 06:22:11 PM
Will I find a sign like this in the States?
(https://www.aaroads.com/mid-atlantic/west_virginia064/i-064_wb_exit_121_06.jpg)
(https://www.aaroads.com/northeast/maine050/i-095_sb_exit_103_02.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: agentsteel53 on December 19, 2013, 06:48:20 PM
Looks like someone designed a decent 70 spec wide shield, then realized they didn't have a wide piece of sheet metal to put it on…

they did.  they just had it rotated 90 degrees.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: agentsteel53 on December 19, 2013, 06:53:05 PM
Will I find a sign like this in the States? (EDIT: Source (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ronrag/11047421175/))


any overhead gantries with "welcome to X road" in the US?  I seem to recall the PA turnpike had one many years ago.

it is a staple in Mexico.

(http://www.aaroads.com/shields/blog/photos/152911.jpg)

I thought I had a photo of one readily available that said "bienvenidos"* but this is the closest I've got offhand.  the ones I am thinking about are generally green; the Circuito Exterior Mexiquense seems to be an anomaly with red.

* or sometimes "welcome", in English.  the English ones are very popular in Baja California, hoping to attract US tourists.  I've heard the Yucatan area also has English ones, but cannot confirm.  metro Mexico City was all Spanish.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: machias on December 19, 2013, 08:46:29 PM
Will I find a sign like this in the States? (EDIT: Source (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ronrag/11047421175/))


any overhead gantries with "welcome to X road" in the US?  I seem to recall the PA turnpike had one many years ago.

it is a staple in Mexico.

(http://www.aaroads.com/shields/blog/photos/152911.jpg)

I thought I had a photo of one readily available that said "bienvenidos"* but this is the closest I've got offhand.  the ones I am thinking about are generally green; the Circuito Exterior Mexiquense seems to be an anomaly with red.

* or sometimes "welcome", in English.  the English ones are very popular in Baja California, hoping to attract US tourists.  I've heard the Yucatan area also has English ones, but cannot confirm.  metro Mexico City was all Spanish.

At one time wasn't there an overhead "Welcome to the Thomas E Dewey Thruway" overhead sign at Thruway mile 0? I don't remember if it's still there or not.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on December 19, 2013, 11:19:46 PM
Will I find a sign like this in the States? (EDIT: Source (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ronrag/11047421175/))

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1/q77/s720x720/1526524_564999760248146_330572673_n.jpg)

New Jersey does... kinda.

(http://cdn.buzznet.com/assets/users15/missxdelirium/default/welcome-new-jersey-turnpike-waaa--large-msg-117581713498.jpg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4vUssCSEWQc/TLpPjGRaVII/AAAAAAAACyA/EPzmfVFzDcI/s1600/IMG8862_1.jpg)

If you're wondering, a normal New Jersey welcome sign (not on the GSP / NJTP) looks like this:

(http://ontheculture.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/usa-welcome-signs-new-jersey_zps1cb2a6cf.jpg)

I know both the Turnpike and the Parkway have 'Thanks for driving <toll road here> ' signs still standing at certain exits on those roads.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on December 19, 2013, 11:43:19 PM
(http://www.millenniumhwy.net/2009_Milford_PA_Day_3/Images/160.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on December 20, 2013, 10:57:44 AM
....

(https://www.aaroads.com/northeast/maine050/i-095_sb_exit_103_02.jpg)

That sign makes it look like E-ZPass is a corporate sponsor: "Welcome to the E-ZPass Maine Turnpike." You know, sort of like college bowl games: the "Discover Orange Bowl" or the "Rose Bowl Game Presented by VIZIO."
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman on December 20, 2013, 02:30:23 PM
Until about a year after the MassDOT "merger" in 2009, the "Welcome to Massachusetts" sign on I-90 east in West Stockbridge included a MassPike shield, the legend "Massachusetts Turnpike Authority" and the names and titles of the then Governor, Lieutenant Governor, and Turnpike Chairman.

The "Turnpike Authority" legend and names on the sign was mostly blued out for some time.  Within the past year or so, the original sign has since been replaced with a MassDOT current standard Welcome sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on December 20, 2013, 08:46:08 PM
At one time wasn't there an overhead "Welcome to the Thomas E Dewey Thruway" overhead sign at Thruway mile 0? I don't remember if it's still there or not.
http://goo.gl/maps/24sEG

Also of note: those clearview county signs the Thruway installed are now in street view.  And the "Thruway Speed Limit 55" sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on December 21, 2013, 12:37:20 AM
Also of note: those clearview county signs the Thruway installed are now in street view.

I truly hope you are not referring to the county pentagon shields being in Clearview - because if so I might gouge my eyes out.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on December 21, 2013, 10:29:15 AM
Also of note: those clearview county signs the Thruway installed are now in street view.

I truly hope you are not referring to the county pentagon shields being in Clearview - because if so I might gouge my eyes out.
No, these things: http://goo.gl/maps/D0qQs (Westchester) http://goo.gl/maps/D8zwl (Bronx); the only county pentagon I know of on the Thruway is at exit 38 for old NY 57.

Also: another overhead welcome sign: http://goo.gl/maps/uopa7
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on December 21, 2013, 10:36:44 AM
No, these things: http://goo.gl/maps/D0qQs (Westchester) http://goo.gl/maps/D8zwl (Bronx); the only county pentagon I know of on the Thruway is at exit 38 for old NY 57.

Oh, well those are fine since they use mixed case Clearview legend on a positive contrast background.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on December 21, 2013, 11:42:21 AM
Not an overhead, but...

ISTHA posts welcome and thank you signage.  Here's an older one from the former south end of I-355:

(http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz298/midamcrossrds/i355southend.jpg) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/i355southend.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: sammi on December 21, 2013, 03:45:38 PM
40 is awfully slow for an expressway, don't you think?
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2888/11471507384_c2a2a5326f_b.jpg)

Does anyone know the Vienna way of signing ramp speed?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1 on December 21, 2013, 03:56:42 PM
40 is awfully slow for an expressway, don't you think?

Does anyone know the Vienna way of signing ramp speed?

I might see another speed limit circle past the exit, but I'm not sure.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: sammi on December 21, 2013, 04:22:12 PM
40 is awfully slow for an expressway, don't you think?

Does anyone know the Vienna way of signing ramp speed?

I might see another speed limit circle past the exit, but I'm not sure.

Actually, I think that's a "no passing".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on December 21, 2013, 05:15:54 PM
40 is awfully slow for an expressway, don't you think?

Does anyone know the Vienna way of signing ramp speed?

I might see another speed limit circle past the exit, but I'm not sure.

Actually, I think that's a "no passing".

It looks to me like there may be another speed limit sign beyond the "no passing" (or at least no something) up on top of that rise.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on December 21, 2013, 07:54:58 PM
Does anyone know the Vienna way of signing ramp speed?

There really is none.  The UK has a version signed as:

Max
Speed
40

The US and Canada use a similar sign, black on yellow.

Germany uses a white on blue sign.

And Mexico uses the red circle in a white square with the speed in the middle and the word "SALIDA" above or below it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on December 26, 2013, 05:38:51 PM
The Chicago area has a special number for reporting accidents and traffic problems.

(http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz298/midamcrossrds/100_3706_zpsc138b183.jpg) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_3706_zpsc138b183.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on December 26, 2013, 06:48:29 PM
"Car phone" isn't a phrase you see much these days...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kniwt on December 26, 2013, 10:28:42 PM
Hello, *999? I'm reporting a road on the road. What's that? Oh, then; I'd like to report a bad case of line spacing on a big blue sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on December 26, 2013, 11:17:49 PM
Hello, *999? I'm reporting a road on the road. What's that? Oh, then; I'd like to report a bad case of line spacing on a big blue sign.

I'd like to report the use of Clearview in all caps on a blue service sign...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kniwt on December 27, 2013, 10:52:04 AM
Beware of another Veterans Memorial Bridge:

(http://i.imgur.com/XqAbMhQ.jpg)

(AZ-CA state line; Street View image)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on December 27, 2013, 11:32:34 AM
A sign I've seen from time-to-time in Illinois, but not anywhere much else (Archer Av, Justice, IL):

(http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz298/midamcrossrds/100_3694_zps0a1fbe4b.jpg) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_3694_zps0a1fbe4b.jpg.html)

Sometimes a dash is used between "water" and "ice".

And this one is just interesting (Cortland, IL):

(http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz298/midamcrossrds/100_3242_zps9370ab6a.jpg) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_3242_zps9370ab6a.jpg.html)

A bit wordy for a diamond sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mass_citizen on December 27, 2013, 02:21:49 PM
I think custom warning signs are some of my favorite signs  :bigass:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Alps on December 27, 2013, 07:13:52 PM
A sign I've seen from time-to-time in Illinois, but not anywhere much else (Archer Av, Justice, IL):

(http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz298/midamcrossrds/100_3694_zps0a1fbe4b.jpg) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_3694_zps0a1fbe4b.jpg.html)

Sometimes a dash is used between "water" and "ice".

And this one is just interesting (Cortland, IL):

(http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz298/midamcrossrds/100_3242_zps9370ab6a.jpg) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_3242_zps9370ab6a.jpg.html)

A bit wordy for a diamond sign.
1: "WATER / ICE ON ROAD"
2: "MAXIMUM 11' WIDTH AHEAD"

Bam.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on December 28, 2013, 10:46:38 PM
This sort of counts, I think. There's a bunch of random arrow signs posted around the Byrd Park area of Richmond, Virginia. They're not goofs since there's no context, and there's no evidence anything else was posted along with the arrows.

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8376/8585162490_0c384cc2a3_c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/coredesatchikai/8585162490/)

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8101/8584063991_012007900b_c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/coredesatchikai/8584063991/)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on December 28, 2013, 10:51:53 PM
Finderne Ave, Bridgewater / Manville, New Jersey, I present the 'ENTRANCE' variant of the 'ONE WAY' sign:

https://www.google.com/maps/preview#!data=!1m8!1m3!1d3!2d-74.576564!3d40.568042!2m2!1f102.26!2f86.69!4f75!2m9!1e1!2m4!1smrs8x-kH7rWlWMBcwnKxfw!2e0!9m1!6sFinderne+Avenue!5m2!1smrs8x-kH7rWlWMBcwnKxfw!2e0&fid=5

Since the picture quality is so shitty, I made a mockup of what the sign says:

(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag88/Zeffyboy/Signs/OW-ent_zps7826da94.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on December 28, 2013, 11:05:39 PM
This sort of counts, I think. There's a bunch of random arrow signs posted around the Byrd Park area of Richmond, Virginia. They're not goofs since there's no context, and there's no evidence anything else was posted along with the arrows.

Hmmm, too new for the Goog. Maybe they're planning on installing shields at a later date. Perhaps USBR 1 is getting realigned to follow R3 across the Boulevard Bridge (but it's dumb to not put the USBR 1 and R3 shields together)? Maps of current alignments here: http://www.richmond.com/recreation/article_bf1d480d-7b17-5651-8c6f-9a5a33aad617.html?mode=image&photo= Are the other arrows also along R3?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on December 29, 2013, 05:39:58 AM
Finderne Ave, Bridgewater / Manville, New Jersey, I present the 'ENTRANCE' variant of the 'ONE WAY' sign:

https://www.google.com/maps/preview#!data=!1m8!1m3!1d3!2d-74.576564!3d40.568042!2m2!1f102.26!2f86.69!4f75!2m9!1e1!2m4!1smrs8x-kH7rWlWMBcwnKxfw!2e0!9m1!6sFinderne+Avenue!5m2!1smrs8x-kH7rWlWMBcwnKxfw!2e0&fid=5

Since the picture quality is so shitty, I made a mockup of what the sign says:

(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag88/Zeffyboy/Signs/OW-ent_zps7826da94.png)

Reminds me of a couple similar signs that were located in Verdi, NV, which said "FREEWAY" instead. These were on the two-way I-80 frontage road that ends in an off ramp, so one should only travel one direction to get back to the Interstate.

Google Street View (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Verdi,+Verdi-Mogul,+NV&hl=en&ll=39.502004,-119.998523&spn=0.006499,0.013078&sll=36.125,-115.175&sspn=0.870758,1.674042&oq=verdi&hnear=Verdi-Mogul,+Washoe+County,+Nevada&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=39.501947,-119.998512&panoid=EWS_WNFKicN0WksfYHNZNQ&cbp=12,197.1,,0,9.16) of location, which now shows the old signs removed in favor of proper trailblazers back to I-80.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on December 29, 2013, 12:21:09 PM
This sort of counts, I think. There's a bunch of random arrow signs posted around the Byrd Park area of Richmond, Virginia. They're not goofs since there's no context, and there's no evidence anything else was posted along with the arrows.

Hmmm, too new for the Goog. Maybe they're planning on installing shields at a later date. Perhaps USBR 1 is getting realigned to follow R3 across the Boulevard Bridge (but it's dumb to not put the USBR 1 and R3 shields together)? Maps of current alignments here: http://www.richmond.com/recreation/article_bf1d480d-7b17-5651-8c6f-9a5a33aad617.html?mode=image&photo= Are the other arrows also along R3?

I think they are. I'll have to go back and check, though. (USBR 1 is actually the reason there isn't a R1, too.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on December 29, 2013, 03:40:31 PM
Saw this on Friday outside the Wharf seafood restaurant in Alexandria, Virginia, where I was having lunch. I just found the sign interesting and kind of amusing. If there were flooding as far up as this sign I think I'd have retrieved my car and gotten out of there well before the water ever got that far!

(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c378/1995hoo/Road%20sign%20pictures/6e544164471de1466eee9804cf85641b_zps302aceb1.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mass_citizen on December 29, 2013, 09:11:38 PM
lol. what a hack border.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on December 30, 2013, 12:06:22 AM
Found this (https://www.google.com/maps/preview#!q=Shoppes+Boulevard%2C+North+Brunswick%2C+NJ&data=!1m8!1m3!1d3!2d-74.456382!3d40.459878!2m2!1f117.94!2f98.6!4f19.22!2m9!1e1!2m4!1sPg-9DCOYMYSDuRqaSXH9nA!2e0!9m1!6sShoppes+Boulevard!5m2!1sPg-9DCOYMYSDuRqaSXH9nA!2e0!4m15!2m14!1m13!1s0x89c3c42be8df62bd%3A0xe2442f186db89d4a!3m8!1m3!1d9960!2d-74.4523058!3d40.4643319!3m2!1i1301!2i630!4f13.1!4m2!3d40.4605466!4d-74.4575162&fid=5) while in North Brunswick today... not much to be said except that at least it was in a green background to signify it was guiding you... kinda...

Then in that same complex, this (https://www.google.com/maps/preview#!q=Shoppes+Boulevard%2C+North+Brunswick%2C+NJ&data=!1m8!1m3!1d3!2d-74.458721!3d40.46128!2m2!1f334.28!2f83.32!4f15!2m9!1e1!2m4!1scPeN2cjCjIkAfLvP91CAXQ!2e0!9m1!6sShoppes+Boulevard!5m2!1scPeN2cjCjIkAfLvP91CAXQ!2e0!4m15!2m14!1m13!1s0x89c3c42be8df62bd%3A0xe2442f186db89d4a!3m8!1m3!1d9960!2d-74.4523058!3d40.4643319!3m2!1i1301!2i630!4f13.1!4m2!3d40.4605466!4d-74.4575162&fid=5) sign looks to be a guide sign, yet is posted with regulatory sign colors. And wouldn't a US 1 shield have sufficed here?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mass_citizen on December 30, 2013, 03:45:43 PM
I've noticed that shopping malls love creating their own sign standards.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on December 30, 2013, 05:37:52 PM
I was downloading videos from my dashcam and culling through them and I found I finally got a decent picture of the funky turn arrows at this intersection in Alexandria. I've passed them hundreds of times but never got a good picture until this one.

Location is just outside the Holiday Inn shown on this map: http://goo.gl/maps/JFTPj  The arrows reflect the hotel's driveway adding an extra access point to and from this intersection.

I just find the arrows unique.

(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c378/1995hoo/Road%20sign%20pictures/FunkyarrowsEisenhower_zps8cfca8a9.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on December 31, 2013, 01:03:56 PM
Interesting VMS in Newark, New Jersey...

(http://imgick.nj.com/home/njo-media/pgmain/img/star-ledger/photo/2013/12/-4613d20e01b38583.jpg)

To quote from the article in which I found it,
Quote
Essex County Prosecutors office display signs asking for information on the homicides of Zainee Hailey, 13, and Kasson Mormon, 15, who were shot and killed on Christmas night at 102 Schley Street in Newark. The scene on Friday, December, 27, 2013. Ed Murray/The Star-Ledger
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: agentsteel53 on December 31, 2013, 05:42:21 PM
crap, I totally forgot to commit a homicide that day.  maybe it's good for 2113?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: elsmere241 on December 31, 2013, 08:06:38 PM
DelDOT puts those signs up here and there to say a lane or a ramp will be closed in the near future.  What bugs me is that they don't give the day of the week.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ARMOURERERIC on December 31, 2013, 08:44:00 PM
Interesting VMS in Newark, New Jersey...

(http://imgick.nj.com/home/njo-media/pgmain/img/star-ledger/photo/2013/12/-4613d20e01b38583.jpg)

To quote from the article in which I found it,
Quote
Essex County Prosecutors office display signs asking for information on the homicides of Zainee Hailey, 13, and Kasson Mormon, 15, who were shot and killed on Christmas night at 102 Schley Street in Newark. The scene on Friday, December, 27, 2013. Ed Murray/The Star-Ledger

Would make me want to get a big plush Santa and place it face down at the base of the VMS with a toy knife in it;s back just to traumatize some kids.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on January 03, 2014, 12:39:36 PM
Uhhhh.... (https://www.google.com/maps/preview#!data=!1m8!1m3!1d3!2d-74.841809!3d40.252906!2m2!1f296.92!2f84.04!4f19.92!2m9!1e1!2m4!1sbbSjLpAYA5Wv6YbtLOYL2g!2e0!9m1!6sRiver+Road!5m2!1sbbSjLpAYA5Wv6YbtLOYL2g!2e0&fid=5)

I don't have the faintest clue in why there is an I-95 shield with an arrow pointing... to the opposite side of the road. There's not even a ramp there!

And then there's this sign, (https://www.google.com/maps/preview#!data=!1m8!1m3!1d3!2d-74.817065!3d40.24086!2m2!1f144.11!2f82.62!4f15!2m9!1e1!2m4!1slGDWtMHI74TdQVxRWYExxw!2e0!9m1!6sNew+Jersey+29!5m2!1slGDWtMHI74TdQVxRWYExxw!2e0&fid=5) and out of the states I've visited, New Jersey's the only one who posts a sign like this.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mhh on January 03, 2014, 01:08:41 PM
We need one of those lonely arrows signs to go with this.

http://goo.gl/maps/468YJ (http://goo.gl/maps/468YJ)

The library is actually half a mile straight ahead, but no one would ever know it from this sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kacie Jane on January 03, 2014, 03:31:51 PM
Uhhhh.... (https://www.google.com/maps/preview#!data=!1m8!1m3!1d3!2d-74.841809!3d40.252906!2m2!1f296.92!2f84.04!4f19.92!2m9!1e1!2m4!1sbbSjLpAYA5Wv6YbtLOYL2g!2e0!9m1!6sRiver+Road!5m2!1sbbSjLpAYA5Wv6YbtLOYL2g!2e0&fid=5)

I don't have the faintest clue in why there is an I-95 shield with an arrow pointing... to the opposite side of the road. There's not even a ramp there!

Errrr, okay, I guess there's not a ramp right there, but there is one just around the curve there....
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on January 03, 2014, 03:48:41 PM
Uhhhh.... (https://www.google.com/maps/preview#!data=!1m8!1m3!1d3!2d-74.841809!3d40.252906!2m2!1f296.92!2f84.04!4f19.92!2m9!1e1!2m4!1sbbSjLpAYA5Wv6YbtLOYL2g!2e0!9m1!6sRiver+Road!5m2!1sbbSjLpAYA5Wv6YbtLOYL2g!2e0&fid=5)

I don't have the faintest clue in why there is an I-95 shield with an arrow pointing... to the opposite side of the road. There's not even a ramp there!

Errrr, okay, I guess there's not a ramp right there, but there is one just around the curve there....
While redundant with respect to the overhead BGS in the background; that trailblazer shield assembly can come in handy for one that's following a tall truck (which would block the BGS' from the lower vehicle's view).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on January 03, 2014, 04:11:17 PM
Uhhhh.... (https://www.google.com/maps/preview#!data=!1m8!1m3!1d3!2d-74.841809!3d40.252906!2m2!1f296.92!2f84.04!4f19.92!2m9!1e1!2m4!1sbbSjLpAYA5Wv6YbtLOYL2g!2e0!9m1!6sRiver+Road!5m2!1sbbSjLpAYA5Wv6YbtLOYL2g!2e0&fid=5)

I don't have the faintest clue in why there is an I-95 shield with an arrow pointing... to the opposite side of the road. There's not even a ramp there!

And then there's this sign, (https://www.google.com/maps/preview#!data=!1m8!1m3!1d3!2d-74.817065!3d40.24086!2m2!1f144.11!2f82.62!4f15!2m9!1e1!2m4!1slGDWtMHI74TdQVxRWYExxw!2e0!9m1!6sNew+Jersey+29!5m2!1slGDWtMHI74TdQVxRWYExxw!2e0&fid=5) and out of the states I've visited, New Jersey's the only one who posts a sign like this.

Could that be on the border entering Trenton? Maybe they're being discreet about it!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1 on January 03, 2014, 04:14:50 PM
Uhhhh.... (https://www.google.com/maps/preview#!data=!1m8!1m3!1d3!2d-74.841809!3d40.252906!2m2!1f296.92!2f84.04!4f19.92!2m9!1e1!2m4!1sbbSjLpAYA5Wv6YbtLOYL2g!2e0!9m1!6sRiver+Road!5m2!1sbbSjLpAYA5Wv6YbtLOYL2g!2e0&fid=5)

I don't have the faintest clue in why there is an I-95 shield with an arrow pointing... to the opposite side of the road. There's not even a ramp there!

And then there's this sign, (https://www.google.com/maps/preview#!data=!1m8!1m3!1d3!2d-74.817065!3d40.24086!2m2!1f144.11!2f82.62!4f15!2m9!1e1!2m4!1slGDWtMHI74TdQVxRWYExxw!2e0!9m1!6sNew+Jersey+29!5m2!1slGDWtMHI74TdQVxRWYExxw!2e0&fid=5) and out of the states I've visited, New Jersey's the only one who posts a sign like this.

Could that be on the border entering Trenton? Maybe they're being discreet about it!

It is exactly at the border.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on January 03, 2014, 04:21:28 PM
Could that be on the border entering Trenton? Maybe they're being discreet about it!

So that's a sign saying you entered Trenton's city limits? Because there is a 'WELCOME TO TRENTON' sign not too far up this road.

As for the I-95 shield, I understand the ramp is not too far from the sign, but it would make a lot more sense to place it when NJ 29 splits from the I-95 ramps.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on January 04, 2014, 02:56:30 AM
So it should be an M5-2 (http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/part2/fig2d_05_longdesc.htm) rather than an M6-2. Woo.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SSOWorld on January 04, 2014, 02:53:38 PM
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7425/10770185674_8f4c059d4f.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ssoworld/10770185674/)
US-101 NB (Mission St) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ssoworld/10770185674/) by ssoworld (http://www.flickr.com/people/ssoworld/), on Flickr
Note the number of left turn options...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mass_citizen on January 04, 2014, 03:19:08 PM
We need one of those lonely arrows signs to go with this.

http://goo.gl/maps/468YJ (http://goo.gl/maps/468YJ)

The library is actually half a mile straight ahead, but no one would ever know it from this sign.

love library signs.


whats with this LGS/street sign further up at the intersection? it looks like a list of street names but doenst give any directional information.

http://goo.gl/maps/UaWsH
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mhh on January 04, 2014, 03:55:46 PM
We need one of those lonely arrows signs to go with this.

http://goo.gl/maps/468YJ (http://goo.gl/maps/468YJ)

The library is actually half a mile straight ahead, but no one would ever know it from this sign.

love library signs.


whats with this LGS/street sign further up at the intersection? it looks like a list of street names but doenst give any directional information.

http://goo.gl/maps/UaWsH

It's a list of all of the streets in the no-outlet subdivision. All but Schmid Dr. should properly have arrows next to the street names: http://goo.gl/maps/TTFzE (http://goo.gl/maps/TTFzE)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on January 04, 2014, 04:55:09 PM
And then there's this sign, (https://www.google.com/maps/preview#!data=!1m8!1m3!1d3!2d-74.817065!3d40.24086!2m2!1f144.11!2f82.62!4f15!2m9!1e1!2m4!1slGDWtMHI74TdQVxRWYExxw!2e0!9m1!6sNew+Jersey+29!5m2!1slGDWtMHI74TdQVxRWYExxw!2e0&fid=5) and out of the states I've visited, New Jersey's the only one who posts a sign like this.

It is somewhat analogous to how the Topeka city limits (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Topeka,+KS&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Topeka,+Shawnee,+Kansas&ll=39.053351,-95.785568&spn=0.001135,0.002411&t=m&z=19&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=39.053355,-95.785353&panoid=SHDP7FUk6dgVceL9PChfgQ&cbp=12,82.29,,0,0) are treated on I-70 eastbound ("CAPITAL CITY" replaces the usual "CITY LIMIT").
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mhh on January 06, 2014, 01:17:06 PM
Here's another one:

http://goo.gl/maps/rGx5A (http://goo.gl/maps/rGx5A)

It's a white rectangular regulatory sign, so does it mean that the presence of a blind person in the area is mandatory?  :hmmm:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on January 06, 2014, 01:25:37 PM
So it should be an M5-2 (http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/part2/fig2d_05_longdesc.htm) rather than an M6-2. Woo.
Actually, M5-4 would be more appropriate; especially further down NJ 29 makes more of a sharp right whereas the ramp to I-95 stays more straight.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: DSS5 on January 07, 2014, 09:38:20 AM
Interesting VMS in Newark, New Jersey...

(http://imgick.nj.com/home/njo-media/pgmain/img/star-ledger/photo/2013/12/-4613d20e01b38583.jpg)

To quote from the article in which I found it,
Quote
Essex County Prosecutors office display signs asking for information on the homicides of Zainee Hailey, 13, and Kasson Mormon, 15, who were shot and killed on Christmas night at 102 Schley Street in Newark. The scene on Friday, December, 27, 2013. Ed Murray/The Star-Ledger

I don't remember the intersection, but I remember seeing one in Winston-Salem asking for information about a hit-and-run that happened.

Here's a sign I've never seen anywhere else - http://goo.gl/maps/3I6XD
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on January 07, 2014, 10:37:21 AM
^^ Cobb Co GA goes bezerk with those (5 flashers in one spot): http://goo.gl/maps/obMiD
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on January 07, 2014, 10:55:47 AM
^^ Cobb Co GA goes bezerk with those (5 flashers in one spot): http://goo.gl/maps/obMiD

That's overkill. 2 flashers would've sufficed, if not one.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1 on January 25, 2014, 04:27:06 PM
Keep this thread going! MA 62, going west, just west of MA 28

(http://maps.googleapis.com/maps/api/streetview?size=200x200&location=42.583704,-71.11553&heading=348.01&fov=60&sensor=false&pitch=-9)

(http://maps.googleapis.com/maps/api/streetview?size=200x200&location=42.583704,-71.11553&heading=348.01&fov=10&sensor=false&pitch=-9)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on January 26, 2014, 02:35:48 AM
And then there's this sign, (https://www.google.com/maps/preview#!data=!1m8!1m3!1d3!2d-74.817065!3d40.24086!2m2!1f144.11!2f82.62!4f15!2m9!1e1!2m4!1slGDWtMHI74TdQVxRWYExxw!2e0!9m1!6sNew+Jersey+29!5m2!1slGDWtMHI74TdQVxRWYExxw!2e0&fid=5) and out of the states I've visited, New Jersey's the only one who posts a sign like this.

It is somewhat analogous to how the Topeka city limits (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Topeka,+KS&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Topeka,+Shawnee,+Kansas&ll=39.053351,-95.785568&spn=0.001135,0.002411&t=m&z=19&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=39.053355,-95.785353&panoid=SHDP7FUk6dgVceL9PChfgQ&cbp=12,82.29,,0,0) are treated on I-70 eastbound ("CAPITAL CITY" replaces the usual "CITY LIMIT").

Is that actually the city limit, though? If you continue east on I-70, there's a typical "Topeka / CITY LIMIT" sign near the bridge upstream of the I-470 ramp diverge.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on January 26, 2014, 10:13:36 AM
Is that actually the city limit, though? If you continue east on I-70, there's a typical "Topeka / CITY LIMIT" sign near the bridge upstream of the I-470 ramp diverge.

This is not an easy question to answer.  Using Google Maps' shading distinction between incorporated and unincorporated land, the first sign (which references Topeka as "CAPITAL CITY") is located at the point where the Topeka municipal boundary first touches I-70.  (It does not appear to cross the I-70 right-of-way line, but I don't consider Google Maps reliable for such a determination.)  The boundary runs parallel to I-70 for several hundred feet before it jogs first south and then north, crossing I-70 just downstream of the Urish Road bridge.  The "CITY LIMIT" sign is in fact located just upstream of the crossing point, a siting which is probably necessitated by the bridge.

If memory serves, KDOT considers an official city limit sign to be properly located at the point where the city limit actually crosses the highway, even if the limit line has been parallel to and adjacent to the highway for a considerable distance to that point.  The "CITY LIMIT" sign in this case appears to meet this criterion.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on January 26, 2014, 04:27:25 PM
This is not an easy question to answer.  Using Google Maps' shading distinction between incorporated and unincorporated land, the first sign (which references Topeka as "CAPITAL CITY") is located at the point where the Topeka municipal boundary first touches I-70.
No need to use the Goog. http://maps.topeka.org/website/NewZoning/viewer.htm (the Goog is essentially correct; the city limits are the south ROW of I-70 and the east ROW of Urish)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bassoon1986 on January 27, 2014, 04:36:58 PM
I found this just off of US 165 in Monroe, LA near the ULM campus. However, it belonged to a tree cutting company by the same name repairing tornado damage at a nearby house. I thought LA DOTD had a sense of humor.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7385/12178840513_afb1929c83.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/geojosh/12178840513/)
 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/geojosh/12178840513/)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1 on January 27, 2014, 04:43:05 PM
I found this just off of US 165 in Monroe, LA near the ULM campus. However, it belonged to a tree cutting company by the same name repairing tornado damage at a nearby house. I thought LA DOTD had a sense of humor.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7385/12178840513_afb1929c83.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/geojosh/12178840513/)

 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/geojosh/12178840513/)

Most people would think it was a typo for "caution".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on January 27, 2014, 06:56:40 PM
Went down to Dallas last Tuesday for work (just for the day), and found this near my site:

(http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz298/midamcrossrds/100_3745_zps5b3d55f8.jpg) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_3745_zps5b3d55f8.jpg.html)

Thought it was interesting due to the use of "IH" instead of "I-" or "Interstate" (yes, I know it's Texas-standard).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on January 27, 2014, 07:37:37 PM
I assume the 'I H' stands for 'Interstate Highway', correct?

Also, I get a strange feeling that 'Avenue H' should be 'H Avenue', but then again, I don't know Dallas (or Texas for that matter) that well.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: sammi on January 27, 2014, 07:41:24 PM
I assume the 'I H' stands for 'Interstate Highway', correct?

Also, I get a strange feeling that 'Avenue H' should be 'H Avenue', but then again, I don't know Dallas (or Texas for that matter) that well.

Interstates are IH- in Texas.

And I think Avenue H is also called Avenue H in New York.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kacie Jane on January 28, 2014, 12:25:31 PM
I found this just off of US 165 in Monroe, LA near the ULM campus. However, it belonged to a tree cutting company by the same name repairing tornado damage at a nearby house. I thought LA DOTD had a sense of humor.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7385/12178840513_afb1929c83.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/geojosh/12178840513/)

 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/geojosh/12178840513/)

Most people would think it was a typo for "caution".

No one in Louisiana would think Cajun was a typo for caution.   ;-)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on January 28, 2014, 12:29:11 PM
I think it's in poor taste to advertise one's business name on a sign that's supposed to warn motorists of a hazard on the road.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on January 28, 2014, 02:44:00 PM
I think it's in poor taste to advertise one's business name on a sign that's supposed to warn motorists of a hazard on the road.

Could be ethnic, as in they are tree cutters who are Cajuns.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bassoon1986 on January 29, 2014, 05:27:20 PM
I think it's in poor taste to advertise one's business name on a sign that's supposed to warn motorists of a hazard on the road.

Could be ethnic, as in they are tree cutters who are Cajuns.

I'm pretty sure it was both. The truck in the yard had the same name as the sign. Didn't catch a glance of the people working, but there's a good chance they were part Cajun.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mass_citizen on February 10, 2014, 02:45:01 AM
this confusing as well as ugly specific service sign is courtesy of MassDOT.

http://goo.gl/maps/WE6AO
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on February 10, 2014, 10:24:48 AM
this confusing as well as ugly specific service sign is courtesy of MassDOT.

http://goo.gl/maps/WE6AO

Note not only the white arrow next to Dunkin Donuts, but the very long black arrow that you can barely tell is an arrow on the actual DD plate as well.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mass_citizen on February 10, 2014, 02:23:40 PM
this confusing as well as ugly specific service sign is courtesy of MassDOT.

http://goo.gl/maps/WE6AO

Note not only the white arrow next to Dunkin Donuts, but the very long black arrow that you can barely tell is an arrow on the actual DD plate as well.

wow. just noticed that. this just got even uglier.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 6a on February 10, 2014, 07:26:05 PM
At the end of the entry road to the Ohio Reformatory for Women,

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/11/yzu8ypa7.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on February 10, 2014, 08:45:13 PM
Speeding ticket menu on Martin County Road 714 in Florida:

(http://c8.staticflickr.com/1/657/21594303455_1cea3b1484_c.jpg) (http://flic.kr/p/yUds5P)

It's about the only time I've seen a permanent sign for this kind of thing; probably not helped by getting a spot on Car & Driver's "Ten Best Places to Speed" back in the 1990s. On the contrary, I like to slow down on this section...50 mph is the posted limit, by the way.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on February 10, 2014, 09:04:00 PM
^^ I have seen such signs in Pennsylvania.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: agentsteel53 on February 10, 2014, 09:30:13 PM
that's not all that unreasonable.  here in California, we've got $860 for a right turn on red camera.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: briantroutman on February 10, 2014, 09:47:01 PM
^^ I have seen such signs in Pennsylvania.

Such as this (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=9533.msg272661#msg272661)?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SidS1045 on February 10, 2014, 10:47:33 PM
Note not only the white arrow next to Dunkin Donuts, but the very long black arrow that you can barely tell is an arrow on the actual DD plate as well.

When that sign was first put up, the DD was to the right.  The whole thing should be done over.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on February 11, 2014, 04:51:13 AM
that's not all that unreasonable.  here in California, we've got $860 for a right turn on red camera.

I'm not always the biggest champion of uniformity, but the haphazard fine  choices - HOV, Red Light, et al - from varying jurisdictions in California seems a bit clumsy. The numbers just seem to be randomly pulled from a hat.

The example I've posted seems to display that they'll err by 5 mph, interestingly. Under normal conditions (not a school or work zone), there's no fine range for 1-5 over the posted limit in Florida.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hubcity on February 11, 2014, 07:56:45 AM
...and the faster you go, the more you save!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: OracleUsr on February 11, 2014, 10:23:10 PM
...and the faster you go, the more you save!

Yeah, everybody knows that.

But did you know that the Devil actually invented Clearview, and that's why North Dakota, home of Devil's Lake, uses it?

Sorry, I hate Clearview.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PColumbus73 on February 11, 2014, 10:59:26 PM
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=arcata+ca&ll=40.875162,-124.083294&spn=0.00066,0.001206&hnear=Arcata,+Humboldt+County,+California&t=h&z=20&layer=c&cbll=40.875165,-124.083358&panoid=jrZo2xzwkVYO-8ngELuf-Q&cbp=12,9.5,,3,-11.98

The opposite corner arrows anyone?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on February 12, 2014, 07:32:24 AM
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=arcata+ca&ll=40.875162,-124.083294&spn=0.00066,0.001206&hnear=Arcata,+Humboldt+County,+California&t=h&z=20&layer=c&cbll=40.875165,-124.083358&panoid=jrZo2xzwkVYO-8ngELuf-Q&cbp=12,9.5,,3,-11.98

The opposite corner arrows anyone?

 :banghead:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Katavia on February 13, 2014, 01:02:53 PM
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3407/3203182016_9c5844f698_z_d.jpg?zz=1)
Anorexic 380 in Roswell, NM
Lol. Eastconomy Motors. :-D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on February 17, 2014, 12:04:56 PM
(http://www3.dot.state.fl.us/videologsource1/12238003/A38070000S/I_02344.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on February 17, 2014, 12:13:14 PM
Hmm, that's funny, I don't see any water for a boat to be crossing the road...  :bigass:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on February 17, 2014, 12:21:47 PM
Hmm, that's funny, I don't see any water for a boat to be crossing the road...  :bigass:

Maybe it's for times like these:

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on February 17, 2014, 09:30:15 PM
That sign... No words to describe it...
 :-o
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mr. Matté on February 23, 2014, 03:50:05 PM
Interprinceton 6k:
(http://i.imgur.com/3ge9Alh.jpg)
Please note, per forum policy: Image height is restricted to 600px. ~S
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1 on February 23, 2014, 03:57:33 PM
Interprinceton 6k:
(http://i.imgur.com/3ge9Alh.jpg)

Where is this? In another country?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mr. Matté on February 23, 2014, 04:33:41 PM
Interprinceton 6k:

Where is this? In another country?

UCLA.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 28, 2014, 06:08:00 PM
A double roundabout diagram. Never seen one before.

BC Highway 97 at Campbell Road (http://goo.gl/JRKExq)

(http://i.imgur.com/uxqo2TK.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on March 07, 2014, 09:07:28 PM
South of Rock Falls, IL:

(http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz298/midamcrossrds/100_3781_zps62aa4ea0.jpg) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_3781_zps62aa4ea0.jpg.html)

I-88 eastbound, Rock Falls, IL:

(http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz298/midamcrossrds/100_3784_zpsff153ce2.jpg) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_3784_zpsff153ce2.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mass_citizen on March 08, 2014, 03:13:09 PM
what if your truck is 10ft 1in?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: DaBigE on March 08, 2014, 03:31:29 PM
A double roundabout diagram. Never seen one before.

BC Highway 97 at Campbell Road (http://goo.gl/JRKExq)

(http://i.imgur.com/uxqo2TK.png)

These are quite common in Europe. The UK sign design manual has a section devoted to the design of this type of sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PenguinXL2 on March 18, 2014, 07:55:18 PM
W[img][/]
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1 on March 18, 2014, 07:55:40 PM
W[img][/]

what
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on March 18, 2014, 08:08:56 PM
W(http://icons.iconarchive.com/icons/rob-sanders/hat/256/Hat-fez-icon.png)

what
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on March 18, 2014, 11:28:50 PM
Fezzes are cool (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvWYw0CnuSI)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on March 19, 2014, 05:22:23 AM
and FUNNY!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on March 19, 2014, 03:20:00 PM
Fezzes are cool (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvWYw0CnuSI)

As were bow ties.  Alas, like tennis shoes with a suit, they pass on.  Now we have a long coat.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mr. Matté on March 24, 2014, 08:20:28 PM
Any time I see a pictorial Yield Ahead sign where the yield symbol is really huge, I think of the early-episodes of Family Guy where the character's mouths really show their teeth:

(http://i.imgur.com/jzM7lNT.jpg) (https://maps.google.com/?ll=40.301982,-74.768486&spn=0.028147,0.055747&t=h&z=15&layer=c&cbll=40.301897,-74.768578&panoid=MJjWeANQxI9WDZy1FMSU5Q&cbp=12,247,,2,4.92)

(http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090722171326/familyguy/images/e/e4/Jennifer.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on March 24, 2014, 09:29:45 PM
Any time I see a pictorial Yield Ahead sign where the yield symbol is really huge, I think of the early-episodes of Family Guy where the character's mouths really show their teeth:
Once it's seen, it cannot be unseen!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: spooky on March 31, 2014, 02:34:43 PM
This seems like the right thread for this:

(http://i.imgur.com/sCAt7SB.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on March 31, 2014, 07:55:20 PM
^ Pick-a-state, Anystate? But probably...Massachusetts?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on March 31, 2014, 10:46:23 PM
^ Pick-a-state, Anystate? But probably...Massachusetts?

I know it's not Illinois.  No route 27 of any type, state, US, or Interstate.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SidS1045 on March 31, 2014, 10:56:00 PM
^ Pick-a-state, Anystate? But probably...Massachusetts?

Given what looks like a paddle sign across the road, I'd say you're right.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: spooky on April 01, 2014, 07:16:21 AM
Yes, these type of signs are mounted both approaching and departing the intersection of Routes 27 and 109 in Medfield, MA.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on April 01, 2014, 12:50:42 PM
^ Pick-a-state, Anystate? But probably...Massachusetts?

Given what looks like a paddle sign across the road, I'd say you're right.

I always thought the paddle signs were duplicated on both sides? (Then again, I haven't spent any serious time in MA since 1991.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SidS1045 on April 01, 2014, 01:10:38 PM
I always thought the paddle signs were duplicated on both sides? (Then again, I haven't spent any serious time in MA since 1991.)

They can be, but usually aren't.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on April 06, 2014, 09:14:31 PM
New signs outside Nationals Park on Friday. Never seen either before anywhere else. The second one strikes me as really odd. If the taxi driver stops to pick up someone hailing him, how exactly do they plan to tow his cab? A ticket, sure, but do they really intend to remove the cabbie from his vehicle (by force if needed) so as to tow the cab?

(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c378/1995hoo/Road%20sign%20pictures/BDE6DC81-8DE9-497F-B362-1164522F6FFE_zpslvjuwcyi.jpg)

(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c378/1995hoo/Road%20sign%20pictures/2D052CCE-4AEB-4885-8F6D-C6BBB384E359_zps8cuz1qak.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: talllguy on April 14, 2014, 12:53:54 AM
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 :banghead: What in the world is this? (Forgive me for being a bit of a font n00b, but this is something I have never seen)

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3759/13836866795_c4a4c552d3_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/n5HyqT)
Shields at Grovenor Metro Station Exit (https://flic.kr/p/n5HyqT) by Elliott P (https://www.flickr.com/people/88483799@N00/), on Flickr

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7336/13837244474_8fe2ff8dc2_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/n5KuGA)
Odd Shields (https://flic.kr/p/n5KuGA) by Elliott P (https://www.flickr.com/people/88483799@N00/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: talllguy on April 14, 2014, 12:57:18 AM
New signs outside Nationals Park on Friday. Never seen either before anywhere else. The second one strikes me as really odd. If the taxi driver stops to pick up someone hailing him, how exactly do they plan to tow his cab? A ticket, sure, but do they really intend to remove the cabbie from his vehicle (by force if needed) so as to tow the cab?

Ugh, taxis... Taxi's interpret NO STOPPING as TAXI STAND. I prefer the second one though and the first is too wordy. A cabbie pictogram would be nice.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 14, 2014, 01:55:44 AM
Great sign near Puyallup, Washington. The font haters will like this because it uses the loved-by-all Comic Sans and of course, to top everything off, Clearview on brown. Really lovely isn't it?

(http://i.imgur.com/uNcBCAj.jpg) (http://imgur.com/uNcBCAj)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on April 14, 2014, 10:37:34 AM
You know, I understand sign designing companies will allow custom signs, and I'm all for that, but can they start to reduce the number of custom fonts? This is just ugly.

As for the Clearview park sign, well, it surprisingly didn't turn out as bad as I could imagine it to be, but this shouldn't become a trend.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: agentsteel53 on April 14, 2014, 10:40:26 AM
^ Pick-a-state, Anystate? But probably...Massachusetts?

correct.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on April 14, 2014, 06:29:56 PM
X Post from the fonts forum.

 :banghead: What in the world is this? (Forgive me for being a bit of a font n00b, but this is something I have never seen)

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3759/13836866795_c4a4c552d3_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/n5HyqT)
Shields at Grovenor Metro Station Exit (https://flic.kr/p/n5HyqT) by Elliott P (https://www.flickr.com/people/88483799@N00/), on Flickr

The font looks like Franklin Gothic, but its been compressed on the shield, and stretched on the banners.

...could be wrong, though.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman on April 14, 2014, 06:48:16 PM
I always thought the paddle signs were duplicated on both sides? (Then again, I haven't spent any serious time in MA since 1991.)

They can be, but usually aren't.

The majority of Massachusetts "paddle" signs (except for those at the ends of freeway off-ramps) were normally double-sided for several decades.  The transition away from PBS (painted both sides) signs began in the mid-1990s (at the same time as MassHighway started including actual route shields on all signs instead of numbers) and was encouraged by MUTCD and local FHWA guidance to place most directional signs on the right side of the road.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on April 15, 2014, 02:30:18 AM
X Post from the fonts forum.

 :banghead: What in the world is this? (Forgive me for being a bit of a font n00b, but this is something I have never seen)

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3759/13836866795_c4a4c552d3_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/n5HyqT)
Shields at Grovenor Metro Station Exit (https://flic.kr/p/n5HyqT) by Elliott P (https://www.flickr.com/people/88483799@N00/), on Flickr

The font looks like Franklin Gothic, but its been compressed on the shield, and stretched on the banners.

...could be wrong, though.


Stretched Franklin Gothic is exactly right for the banners, but the shields are Helvetica Black.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on April 15, 2014, 07:46:41 AM
You know, I understand sign designing companies will allow custom signs, and I'm all for that, but can they start to reduce the number of custom fonts? This is just ugly.

As for the Clearview park sign, well, it surprisingly didn't turn out as bad as I could imagine it to be, but this shouldn't become a trend.

There are some brown signs using Clearview (either all-Clearview or partial) on the George Washington Memorial Parkway near Arlington Memorial Bridge. The Clearview is in all-caps, too. I've never been able to get a good picture due to traffic in the area, though.

It looks weird when it's on the same sign as the National Park Service's standard serif font!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on April 15, 2014, 09:53:31 AM
The transition away from PBS (painted both sides) signs began in the mid-1990s (at the same time as MassHighway started including actual route shields on all signs instead of numbers)
Actually, one of the first non-painted on both sides paddle LGS' date back to 1977 when Bell Circle (MA 1A/16/60) was reconstructed w/its cut-through (for MA 60 West/MA 1A South transition movements).  Those LGS panels were also one of if not the first metal LGS'.  Those particular LGS' have all since been replaced.  Scroll down for photos of the original metal Bell Circle BGS' (http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ma/ma_1a/2.html)

Wooden paddle LGS' were made up until the early-to-mid 90s.

Painted wooden LGS panels containing messages only on one side had the backs painted in a flat green finish rather than a reflective/glossy finish.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: talllguy on April 15, 2014, 01:20:17 PM
I thought this was odd because VMS are usually mounted overhead. I don't think I've ever seen one mounted on a pole like this. Looks like a billboard. I-495 in Maryland.

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5191/13860659405_4691ded97b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/n7Pv9i)
VMS on a Pole (https://flic.kr/p/n7Pv9i) by Elliott P (https://www.flickr.com/people/88483799@N00/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on April 15, 2014, 01:54:09 PM
I thought this was odd because VMS are usually mounted overhead. I don't think I've ever seen one mounted on a pole like this. Looks like a billboard. I-495 in Maryland.
PA's got a ton of those; some are even located in the median (example: I-476 along the Blue Route).
 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on April 15, 2014, 02:01:12 PM
NJ installed a lot of theirs low to the ground.  I wished they would do what PA does, just so they're easier to see from the furthest lane away.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman on April 15, 2014, 03:14:50 PM
I thought this was odd because VMS are usually mounted overhead. I don't think I've ever seen one mounted on a pole like this. Looks like a billboard. I-495 in Maryland.

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5191/13860659405_4691ded97b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/n7Pv9i)
VMS on a Pole (https://flic.kr/p/n7Pv9i) by Elliott P (https://www.flickr.com/people/88483799@N00/), on Flickr
That was a common mounting option for early "fiber optic/flip disc" VMS panels installed in many states in the 1990s.  One of the reasons for this was that the "FO/FD" design necessitated the use of walk-in cabinets for component maintenance and replacement.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on April 15, 2014, 03:36:49 PM
I thought this was odd because VMS are usually mounted overhead. I don't think I've ever seen one mounted on a pole like this. Looks like a billboard. I-495 in Maryland.

MoDOT does that rather often.

(http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz298/midamcrossrds/100_3832_zps89b970fc.jpg) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_3832_zps89b970fc.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: talllguy on April 15, 2014, 04:11:10 PM
How about this one? An attempt to save on the cost of a 1/4" bolt? Also this is just odd for many reasons. Too low, mounted on a rock, colors mixed, doesn't make sense.

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3718/13860691163_8e1695bc69.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/n7PEzR)
Saving Bolts (https://flic.kr/p/n7PEzR) by Elliott P (https://www.flickr.com/people/88483799@N00/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman on April 15, 2014, 04:37:39 PM
How about this one? An attempt to save on the cost of a 1/4" bolt? Also this is just odd for many reasons. Too low, mounted on a rock, colors mixed, doesn't make sense.

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3718/13860691163_8e1695bc69.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/n7PEzR)
Saving Bolts (https://flic.kr/p/n7PEzR) by Elliott P (https://www.flickr.com/people/88483799@N00/), on Flickr
Sadly, the "let's save a bolt or two" practice is all too common in many muncipalities in Massachusetts.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: agentsteel53 on April 15, 2014, 05:10:35 PM
How about this one? An attempt to save on the cost of a 1/4" bolt? Also this is just odd for many reasons. Too low, mounted on a rock, colors mixed, doesn't make sense.


given the loading docks in the background, I would bet that it was actually the company who owns the warehouse who put up those two signs on the public right of way.  I think they probably asked the relevant municipal authority to furnish signage... but when one more of their trucks got dinged by a careless driver while the request was slowly worming through the bureaucracy, they just went ahead and procured for themselves.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: agentsteel53 on April 15, 2014, 05:12:40 PM
I thought this was odd because VMS are usually mounted overhead. I don't think I've ever seen one mounted on a pole like this. Looks like a billboard. I-495 in Maryland.

[no texting/no hand-held phone]

well, that's better than the "if you see something, say something" that was prevalent circa 2006, but it's still pretty fucking nanny.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1 on April 15, 2014, 05:15:22 PM
"if you see something, say something" that was prevalent circa 2006

I have seen something similar to that in 2014.

(It's on an advertising sign that switches between advertisements and public service announcements).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on April 15, 2014, 05:36:08 PM
I thought this was odd because VMS are usually mounted overhead. I don't think I've ever seen one mounted on a pole like this. Looks like a billboard. I-495 in Maryland.

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5191/13860659405_4691ded97b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/n7Pv9i)
VMS on a Pole (https://flic.kr/p/n7Pv9i) by Elliott P (https://www.flickr.com/people/88483799@N00/), on Flickr

O(hio)DOT sometimes does that when there's a curve in the road, so the sign is directly ahead of the traffic a couple hundred feet upstream.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on April 17, 2014, 10:38:15 AM
This is probably fake, but it made me smile anyway:

(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c378/1995hoo/Road%20sign%20pictures/252029_10151176439306765_385468626_n_zps778a3e64.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on April 17, 2014, 10:50:11 AM
This is probably fake, but it made me smile anyway:

(http://projectroadrush.freeforums.net/attachment/download/14)

I don't see anything - but it might be because the link is pointing to an attachment on a forum, which is usually unable to be linked to without registration.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on April 17, 2014, 11:03:06 AM
I don't see anything - but it might be because the link is pointing to an attachment on a forum, which is usually unable to be linked to without registration.

It's showing up fine for me on multiple devices, but thanks for telling me. I'll edit the original post.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on April 17, 2014, 11:07:10 AM
It's showing up fine for me on multiple devices, but thanks for telling me. I'll edit the original post.

If that sign is fake - then I will give whoever did that a gold medal in Photoshopping, because it's fooling me.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on April 17, 2014, 12:03:24 PM
It's showing up fine for me on multiple devices, but thanks for telling me. I'll edit the original post.

If that sign is fake - then I will give whoever did that a gold medal in Photoshopping, because it's fooling me.

This image has been featured here before. I believe it was determined to be fake. But it is indeed a very good fake.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: shadyjay on April 17, 2014, 10:24:32 PM
I thought this was odd because VMS are usually mounted overhead. I don't think I've ever seen one mounted on a pole like this. Looks like a billboard. I-495 in Maryland.

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5191/13860659405_4691ded97b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/n7Pv9i)
VMS on a Pole (https://flic.kr/p/n7Pv9i) by Elliott P (https://www.flickr.com/people/88483799@N00/), on Flickr

Vermont's only permanent VMS is mounted on two poles on the side and is about 1/4 the size of the above linked image.  It's located on I-89 North after Exit 4 and the former rest area on the climb up to Brookfield Heights, the highest point on I-89.

https://www.google.com/maps/@44.042676,-72.609744,3a,75y,29.68h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sdK_yBBBL3dmXbfzs-Tbi8A!2e0

Also in recent years, MassDOT has installed some slightly larger ones than the VT one on I-91 in the Greenfield area.  Given MassDOT's desire to move all BGSs to overheads (even in extremely rural areas), I wonder if the VMSs too will go overhead.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: route56 on April 22, 2014, 07:30:29 AM
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7134/13939688336_bf411dba3a.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/neNxG5)
48732 (https://flic.kr/p/neNxG5) by richiekennedy56 (https://www.flickr.com/people/39506502@N04/), on Flickr

135th just west of Nall. Given the actual design of the sign and the orange sticker in back, this is at best a refurbished KDOT installation that probably is a leftover from the K-150 days.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: DSS5 on April 23, 2014, 12:38:38 AM
The red and white No Right Turn on Red sign in Mountain City, TN is the only one of its kind I've seen. I had to use a weird angle to get a good StreetView image of it - http://goo.gl/maps/LHQPV
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: DSS5 on April 23, 2014, 12:42:28 AM
I thought this was odd because VMS are usually mounted overhead. I don't think I've ever seen one mounted on a pole like this. Looks like a billboard. I-495 in Maryland.

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5191/13860659405_4691ded97b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/n7Pv9i)
VMS on a Pole (https://flic.kr/p/n7Pv9i) by Elliott P (https://www.flickr.com/people/88483799@N00/), on Flickr

NCDOT has put up VMS with this style in advance of the Business 40 project in Winston-Salem.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 23, 2014, 12:42:49 AM
"Right Lane Must Turn Right" on a freeway (http://goo.gl/7JIxnZ). WSDOT...wat

(http://i.imgur.com/cwSJI6a.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on April 23, 2014, 10:45:53 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/EQWSV4Q.jpg)

Across from the county courthouse, in Guthrie. Particularly unique, odd, and interesting because as far as I know, Logan County (and Oklahoma in general!) has never used county pentagons...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on April 23, 2014, 10:52:12 PM
That white on blue County Route shield reminds me of how Somerset County signs their county roads... well, I think they stopped and switched to yellow on blue now.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bobby5280 on April 25, 2014, 01:44:46 AM
The stick-on letters look as if they were purchased from either Hobby Lobby or Dollar General.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mass_citizen on April 25, 2014, 07:33:18 PM
I think that might be mailbox font series "C"

 :-D 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 02, 2014, 01:14:51 AM
A couple of interesting spots today in Seattle:

A symbol-only "no right turn on red":

(http://i.imgur.com/vw2kEvn.png)

And a new theme in Seattle (it would seem). Overhead "turn only" signs that are white arrows on a black background. I think they look nicer with the black signal arm.

(http://i.imgur.com/5uqfXk0.jpg)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on May 02, 2014, 08:56:34 AM
^^ So Seattle adopted the Canadian "no turn on red" symbol sign I see.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on May 04, 2014, 02:22:33 PM
The first time I saw that style of No Turn on Red sign was on the Island of Montreal. Turning on red is now legal in the province of Quebec except on the Island of Montreal (similar to New York State versus New York City, though I don't know of Montreal having an exception where a sign permits it like NYC has).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 04, 2014, 02:53:24 PM
^^ So Seattle adopted the Canadian "no turn on red" symbol sign I see.

Yes, they are going the way of the Canucks! Fine by me, I prefer their MUTCD anyways.

The first time I saw that style of No Turn on Red sign was on the Island of Montreal. Turning on red is now legal in the province of Quebec except on the Island of Montreal (similar to New York State versus New York City, though I don't know of Montreal having an exception where a sign permits it like NYC has).

I only started paying attention to signs about a year ago, but I too have only seen this sign in Canada. There is a sort of half-symbol-half-text no turn on red sign a number of blocks south at the off-ramp from I-5 North (http://goo.gl/HN1lM3) but this is the only American symbol-only no turn on red that I have ever seen.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on May 16, 2014, 03:06:41 PM
Ryder University had these signs posted near the south exit/entrance to the University - my guess is they were trying to help people get back home (today was the Class of 2014 Commencement Ceremony, which my family attended). Yeah, it's pretty ugly, but at least the fonts didn't turn out to be Arial. Or something worse.

Sorry for the amount of water on the window - it was raining. Very hard. I got rained on quite hard while walking to my parent's car... but I didn't care. Worst case scenario my hair was really wet, which didn't really bother me. (And for those wondering - yeah, it got pretty wet... as did the rest of my body)

(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag88/Zeffyboy/Signs/IMG_1504_zps26527ad1.jpg)

Also, there was this sign, which I had to do a rendition of, because I couldn't get my phone unlocked fast enough to snap it... (somehow they got the Turnpike shield right here, because I remember thinking to myself "wow, they used the correct fonts" and then smacking my head when I saw the non-cutout shields ahead. And yes, the sign had just the white background behind it, no border, and used Arial.

(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag88/Zeffyboy/Signs/RyderGuideSign_zpsb495893b.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on May 16, 2014, 03:40:34 PM
Sorry for the amount of water on the window - it was raining. Very hard.

Quit with the excuses.  Get out there and dry the window next time! :-)

Otherwise, for a temporary setup, looks like they executed it well, with guiding traffic both directions to prevent overloading of any one particular route.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on May 16, 2014, 03:50:38 PM
Otherwise, for a temporary setup, looks like they executed it well, with guiding traffic both directions to prevent overloading of any one particular route.

True, except the junction with I-95 is probably less than a mile north of the University, and the sorry saps who went south on 206 got to see the worst of Trenton (and probably added about 5-10 more minutes) getting to I-195. Coming to the University, Exit 7A was packed coming from I-95 North. Coming out was easy since there wasn't much traffic at all.

Quit with the excuses.  Get out there and dry the window next time! :-)

Well that would've worked if it weren't POURING rain when I took the picture.  :D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on May 16, 2014, 06:48:09 PM
Well that would've worked if it weren't POURING rain when I took the picture.  :D
Get a tent to cover the car and the shields.  And dry the shields first too.  And the scenery.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 16, 2014, 07:18:25 PM
Well that would've worked if it weren't POURING rain when I took the picture.  :D
Get a tent to cover the car and the shields.  And dry the shields first too.  And the scenery.

If we are gonna get a tent why not just stay the night there? Get a number of shots at different light levels, just see which one turns out best! Easy.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Alex4897 on May 17, 2014, 10:08:31 AM
Well that would've worked if it weren't POURING rain when I took the picture.  :D
Get a tent to cover the car and the shields.  And dry the shields first too.  And the scenery.

If we are gonna get a tent why not just stay the night there? Get a number of shots at different light levels, just see which one turns out best! Easy.
While you're at it, why don't you just make it stop raining.  Can't be too hard.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on May 17, 2014, 10:56:18 AM
So for next time, it looks like I need to use my WeatherChanger Machine™ that I have secretly built, bring an oversized hair dryer, and set up for the night with a tent.

How genius.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on May 17, 2014, 03:17:02 PM
Well that would've worked if it weren't POURING rain when I took the picture.  :D
Get a tent to cover the car and the shields.  And dry the shields first too.  And the scenery.

If we are gonna get a tent why not just stay the night there? Get a number of shots at different light levels, just see which one turns out best! Easy.
While you're at it, why don't you just make it stop raining.  Can't be too hard.
Too easy.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on May 24, 2014, 12:17:56 AM
Interesting groups of signs I found on a fire station in Chicago:

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.894972,-87.748502,3a,19.6y,313.52h,87.57t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sPq5a7UaRGrLWyP-n0cCU5g!2e0

From what I can see in the picture, the shields say 'UNIT(s)' at the top, and the unit number at the bottom. It looks to be in full FHWA font as well.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on May 24, 2014, 12:51:27 AM
Interesting groups of signs I found on a fire station in Chicago:

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.894972,-87.748502,3a,19.6y,313.52h,87.57t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sPq5a7UaRGrLWyP-n0cCU5g!2e0

From what I can see in the picture, the shields say 'UNIT(s)' at the top, and the unit number at the bottom. It looks to be in full FHWA font as well.

They probably asked a local DOT sign shop to makee those for them. They're probably retroreflective and everything.  The US route marker seems appropriate because of the shape similarity to police/fire badges.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 6a on May 24, 2014, 10:21:40 AM


They probably asked a local DOT sign shop to makee those for them. They're probably retroreflective and everything.  The US route marker seems appropriate because of the shape similarity to police/fire badges.

A couple stations here have something along those lines, although slightly less serious.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/24/yhy8a5eb.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mcdonaat on May 27, 2014, 12:32:01 AM
http://goo.gl/maps/eWLV1
Texas has Alternate US 90 and Alternate US 77. We have Alternate LA 2 and Alternate Myth and Legends Trail.

http://goo.gl/maps/eWLV1
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on May 27, 2014, 02:22:03 PM
Interesting groups of signs I found on a fire station in Chicago:

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.894972,-87.748502,3a,19.6y,313.52h,87.57t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sPq5a7UaRGrLWyP-n0cCU5g!2e0

From what I can see in the picture, the shields say 'UNIT(s)' at the top, and the unit number at the bottom. It looks to be in full FHWA font as well.

They probably asked a local DOT sign shop to makee those for them. They're probably retroreflective and everything.  The US route marker seems appropriate because of the shape similarity to police/fire badges.

Probably CDOT, not IDOT.  The Chicago Department of Transportation (CDOT) is responsible for all non-expressway signage in the city, including Lake Shore Drive.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 29, 2014, 12:11:36 AM
I still get a kick out the BC dashed borders...it seems that they largely are involved with truck signs, but there are some that aren't directly related to trucks, so not 100% sure. Also, these signs aren't particularly unique (there's hundreds across BC) but they are certainly unique to BC, from my knowledge.

(http://i.imgur.com/eF68QOH.png)(http://i.imgur.com/OkcDoDX.png)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on May 29, 2014, 12:33:14 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/eF68QOH.png)

Why is "Detour Via" not in all caps?  And is it common practice in BC to have figures to the right of a decimal point in smaller type?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 29, 2014, 01:32:51 PM
Why is "Detour Via" not in all caps?  And is it common practice in BC to have figures to the right of a decimal point in smaller type?

Not sure why "Detour Via" is not in caps, but in regards to smaller numbers right of a decimal point, that's a standard. Here's a distance sign with the same approach:

(http://i.imgur.com/CV911NA.png)

And here's another dotted border sign. This one definitely relates to trucks:

(http://i.imgur.com/fbpL93E.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on May 29, 2014, 01:46:13 PM
Not sure why "Detour Via" is not in caps, but in regards to smaller numbers right of a decimal point, that's a standard. Here's a distance sign with the same approach:

(http://i.imgur.com/CV911NA.png)

Damn, I hate that.  Just use a fricking fraction and make it look nicer instead of those ugly small numbers after a point.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on May 29, 2014, 02:16:48 PM
Damn, I hate that.  Just use a fricking fraction and make it look nicer instead of those ugly small numbers after a point.

I believe the UK is guilty of this practice on signs such as this one:

(http://www.health-safety-signs.uk.com/productimages/629-2A---height-limit.gif)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 29, 2014, 02:20:35 PM
Damn, I hate that.  Just use a fricking fraction and make it look nicer instead of those ugly small numbers after a point.

I believe the UK is guilty of this practice on signs such as this one

Canada is made up largely of English people. Clearly some things were pulled from the old world. This practice, and then you have BC's roundabout diagrams (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=11045.msg282128#msg282128), which are pulled from the UK, and the fingerposts (http://goo.gl/WUxZtk), which are a UK staple.

Also, never bothered to notice this before, but...

(http://i.imgur.com/CV911NA.png)

"5.0"...so 5? Must be a continuity thing.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on May 29, 2014, 02:33:19 PM
Not sure why "Detour Via" is not in caps, but in regards to smaller numbers right of a decimal point, that's a standard. Here's a distance sign with the same approach:

(http://i.imgur.com/CV911NA.png)

Damn, I hate that.  Just use a fricking fraction and make it look nicer instead of those ugly small numbers after a point.

Fractions are non-standard with metric units. That's part of the whole point of the system.

If you don't like the decimal points, you'd REALLY hate the signs in Quebec that use the standard French version of the decimal point—a comma, such as 1,5 km (meaning 1500 m). Not all their signs are like that, though—some use a period instead.

Sample from Autoroute 15 southeast of Montreal linked below. I recall the old non-Clearview signs using a larger, more pronounced comma than the one seen here.

https://www.google.com/maps/@45.350177,-73.519923,3a,75y,21.43h,107.99t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1ssjlMFKiLulmXJzpxOqaokg!2e0
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 29, 2014, 03:17:40 PM
Sample from Autoroute 15 southeast of Montreal linked below. I recall the old non-Clearview signs using a larger, more pronounced comma than the one seen here.

https://www.google.com/maps/@45.350177,-73.519923,3a,75y,21.43h,107.99t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1ssjlMFKiLulmXJzpxOqaokg!2e0

I find it interesting that they kept the FHWA font inside the exit number box and inside the route shield. Reminds me of our standards.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on May 29, 2014, 03:32:12 PM
Fractions are non-standard with metric units. That's part of the whole point of the system.

If you don't like the decimal points, you'd REALLY hate the signs in Quebec that use the standard French version of the decimal point—a comma, such as 1,5 km (meaning 1500 m). Not all their signs are like that, though—some use a period instead.

Sample from Autoroute 15 southeast of Montreal linked below. I recall the old non-Clearview signs using a larger, more pronounced comma than the one seen here.

https://www.google.com/maps/@45.350177,-73.519923,3a,75y,21.43h,107.99t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1ssjlMFKiLulmXJzpxOqaokg!2e0

I'm even less fond of the comma being misused in place of a decimal point.  The "point" of SI may be a lack of fractions, but fractions actually, IMHO, make it easier to read as one drives.

1 1/2 is a lot easier to see and read at 70 mph than 1.5 or 1,5.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman on May 29, 2014, 03:48:19 PM
1 1/2 is a lot easier to see and read at 70 mph than 1.5 or 1,5.

Plus, it's so easy to miss the decimal at a glance.  On a resurfacing project on I-93 between Wilmington (MA) and Methuen (MA) a few years back, the contractor installed a sign reading "Road Work Next 13.8 Miles".  Problem was, the sign was so small that the decimal became nearly invisible.  A quick look at the panel, and you'd swear the sign read "138 Miles".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 29, 2014, 04:00:35 PM
1 1/2 is a lot easier to see and read at 70 mph than 1.5 or 1,5.

Plus, it's so easy to miss the decimal at a glance.  On a resurfacing project on I-93 between Wilmington (MA) and Methuen (MA) a few years back, the contractor installed a sign reading "Road Work Next 13.8 Miles".  Problem was, the sign was so small that the decimal became nearly invisible.  A quick look at the panel, and you'd swear the sign read "138 Miles".

It wouldn't necessarily be wrong, but introducing factors into a base ten system (metric) is extraneous at best. It might be easier to read a fraction from a distance, to an American, but in Canada, fractions aren't really as commonplace. It would confuse more people than it would assist.

Also, notice how in these examples, the decimal is smaller than the whole? That's probably their way of preventing people from thinking it's, for example, 15 vs 1.5 (the latter being correct).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on May 29, 2014, 05:34:36 PM
1 1/2 is a lot easier to see and read at 70 mph than 1.5 or 1,5.

Plus, it's so easy to miss the decimal at a glance.  On a resurfacing project on I-93 between Wilmington (MA) and Methuen (MA) a few years back, the contractor installed a sign reading "Road Work Next 13.8 Miles".  Problem was, the sign was so small that the decimal became nearly invisible.  A quick look at the panel, and you'd swear the sign read "138 Miles".

That would be why the Canadians put the decimal portion in a smaller font that the whole number portion.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on May 29, 2014, 06:11:23 PM
Fractions are non-standard with metric units. That's part of the whole point of the system.

If you don't like the decimal points, you'd REALLY hate the signs in Quebec that use the standard French version of the decimal point—a comma, such as 1,5 km (meaning 1500 m). Not all their signs are like that, though—some use a period instead.

Sample from Autoroute 15 southeast of Montreal linked below. I recall the old non-Clearview signs using a larger, more pronounced comma than the one seen here.

https://www.google.com/maps/@45.350177,-73.519923,3a,75y,21.43h,107.99t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1ssjlMFKiLulmXJzpxOqaokg!2e0

I'm even less fond of the comma being misused in place of a decimal point.  The "point" of SI may be a lack of fractions, but fractions actually, IMHO, make it easier to read as one drives.

1 1/2 is a lot easier to see and read at 70 mph than 1.5 or 1,5.

It's not "misuse" of the comma. That's the normal way to write the decimal point in French (and some other languages as well).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on May 29, 2014, 08:35:54 PM
I do not understand why those languages adopted the comma for decimals at all.  Commas mean "pause between breaths".  Decimal points mean "break in idea".  A decimal number is the latter, not the former!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: sammi on May 29, 2014, 08:47:48 PM
I do not understand why those languages adopted the comma for decimals at all.  Commas mean "pause between breaths".  Decimal points mean "break in idea".  A decimal number is the latter, not the former!

I don't think of it that way. It's more like: our decimal mark looks like a period, theirs looks like a comma.

The only reason we call them decimal points is because we use the variant that looks like a period.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on May 29, 2014, 08:57:31 PM
I do not understand why those languages adopted the comma for decimals at all.  Commas mean "pause between breaths".  Decimal points mean "break in idea".  A decimal number is the latter, not the former!

Not in other languages.

Я уверен, что русские удивляются, почему мы используем наш алфавит.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Thing 342 on June 05, 2014, 03:46:07 PM
I found this assembly at highway-themed ride at a waterpark near me (photo not by me, can be found here (http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25104&view=next)):

(http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/files/hh_7_152.jpg)

It's interesting how they combine US-style signage with some semi-European signage. Furthermore, why are the fonts different on each sign? Why does VA-55 point away from ALT-I-66?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on June 05, 2014, 08:33:46 PM
That's surprisingly a lot better than it could have been.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: briantroutman on June 05, 2014, 08:48:57 PM
Considering this is Virgina, I suppose we should be happy that the Interstate shield is a cutout.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on June 05, 2014, 11:05:41 PM
The "TO OLD ALT" plates look like they could have come off of one of the assemblies with cutouts for Alternate US 58 in the Norton area.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on June 06, 2014, 10:10:07 AM
I found this assembly at highway-themed ride at a waterpark near me (photo not by me, can be found here (http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25104&view=next)):

(http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/files/hh_7_152.jpg)

It's interesting how they combine US-style signage with some semi-European signage. Furthermore, why are the fonts different on each sign? Why does VA-55 point away from ALT-I-66?

This would be very close to an assembly that could have existed if the US HH shield were a VA 17 and the 713 shield were a 731.

From 1962 to the late 70s, this was the western end of I-66 in the Delaplane area:
http://www.historicaerials.com/aerials.php?scale=989&lon=-77.92889564664125&lat=38.89860444226724&year=1965

If you were on VA 55 EB and reached the beginning of the I-66 section, a sign there could have been that 55 east goes left, I-66 east goes straight (rightish), that getting to 17 north is to the left, and faster access to SR 731 south is possible by following 66 because what is now Exit 23 is open.  A little stretch but not outrageous...



I am curious about the BGS in the background though...

Mapmikey
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Thing 342 on June 06, 2014, 10:56:06 AM
Considering this is Virgina, I suppose we should be happy that the Interstate shield is a cutout.
I don't think that it is the right shape though. It seems to be too pointy at the bottom.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on June 06, 2014, 11:10:29 AM
Considering this is Virgina, I suppose we should be happy that the Interstate shield is a cutout.

We have a lot of cutout Interstate shields in Virginia, especially once you get off the Interstate and look for shields pointing you towards an interchange.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: agentsteel53 on June 06, 2014, 11:22:04 AM
The "TO OLD ALT" plates look like they could have come off of one of the assemblies with cutouts for Alternate US 58 in the Norton area.

all that's missing is a ZU.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Thing 342 on June 06, 2014, 11:55:42 AM

I am curious about the BGS in the background though...

Mapmikey

The BGS (which I don't have a photo of) is actually pretty good, except that the exit tab is misaligned.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 09, 2014, 01:38:29 PM
Is there anything glaringly wrong with this setup? Sort of an APL but a bit different because it indicates both an immediate and upcoming exit.

(http://i.imgur.com/7IkoO4N.png)

Also, don't worry, the colors are the normal yellow and green. Sun slightly distorts the color.

-- This was reposted from "The Worst of Road Signs" --
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on June 09, 2014, 01:51:42 PM
Here are a few interesting ones in Huntsville:
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2914/14197545289_b1785640f5.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/nCA8zB)
Highway to hell? (https://flic.kr/p/nCA8zB) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3762/8861130127_385184d65a.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ev2BgD)
White &quot;Stop Ahead&quot; Sign (https://flic.kr/p/ev2BgD) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7344/9324847886_fc0b89ecf7.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/fd1hpq)
This Lane Must Turn Right (https://flic.kr/p/fd1hpq) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3708/9322063453_f1c9affe10.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/fcL1FX)
This Lane Must Turn Right (https://flic.kr/p/fcL1FX) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

One that you don't see every day:
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3829/9324849840_bc228aa886.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/fd1hZ7)
Left Lane Must Turn Left (https://flic.kr/p/fd1hZ7) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on June 09, 2014, 02:18:38 PM
One that you don't see every day:
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3829/9324849840_bc228aa886.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/fd1hZ7)
Left Lane Must Turn Left (https://flic.kr/p/fd1hZ7) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

I've seen quite a few of those in New Jersey, enough to qualify them as common.

(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2914/14197545289_b1785640f5.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/nCA8zB)
Highway to hell? (https://flic.kr/p/nCA8zB) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

That's a variant of a US Highway shield that I've never seen... and there's a lot of variants too, we had a thread on it but I cannot seem to find it at all.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: agentsteel53 on June 09, 2014, 02:57:11 PM
is there something I'm missing on "LEFT LANE MUST TURN LEFT"?  I remember once someone photoshopped one to say "LEFT LANE MUST LEFT RIGHT" and posted it on Failblog or something similar... but this one looks to be standard.

the shield shape on the 72 - I've seen it in Alabama, Louisiana, Tennessee, Virginia, and Wisconsin.  it appears to have originated in Alabama.

(http://www.aaroads.com/shields/img/AL/AL19600431i1.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on June 09, 2014, 02:59:55 PM
is there something I'm missing on "LEFT LANE MUST TURN LEFT"?  I remember once someone photoshopped one to say "LEFT LANE MUST LEFT RIGHT" and posted it on Failblog or something similar... but this one looks to be standard.
It's the only one I know of in Huntsville. That's why I included it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on June 09, 2014, 05:52:06 PM
Maryland also has used a shield shape similar to Alabama's.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on June 09, 2014, 06:31:27 PM
Isn't Left Lane Must Turn Left just the textual equivalent of the "[left arrow] ONLY" signs which are common pretty much everywhere?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1 on June 09, 2014, 06:36:07 PM
Isn't Left Lane Must Turn Left just the textual equivalent of the "[left arrow] ONLY" signs which are common pretty much everywhere?

I see the signs all the time. However, I usually don't see them with another sign on the other side.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 10, 2014, 03:31:13 AM
This is the first Clearview stop sign that I've ever seen:

(http://i.imgur.com/1jYqmZg.png)

It's located in Abbotsford (http://goo.gl/qjVX1r), British Columbia.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on June 10, 2014, 05:08:10 AM
I've seen some in Adrian, MI.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman on June 11, 2014, 06:50:02 PM
Isn't Left Lane Must Turn Left just the textual equivalent of the "[left arrow] ONLY" signs which are common pretty much everywhere?
You are correct.  However, for many years, the MUTCD strongly frowned upon use of the "[left arrow] ONLY" (R3-5L) signs for ground-mounted installations, even if they were installed in medians and/or combined with other arrows on the sign (current R3-8 series).  As such, a very common application at an intersection with overhead signals and dedicated turn lanes would have a "Left Lane Must Turn Left" text sign (R3-7L) ground-mounted in advance of the intersection (usually at or just prior to the point of curvature where the turn lane begins), and a R3-5L text sign mounted on the mast arm or span wire above the turn lane at the intersection.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on June 11, 2014, 11:04:07 PM
This one may be an oldie, but it definitely counts as "unique, odd or interesting."

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1238/614303487_0439572f5a_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on June 11, 2014, 11:09:36 PM
An oddity in the United States: Street signs in French. (Lafayette, LA)

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5475/14237230024_99525cfaa5_o.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Alex4897 on June 15, 2014, 12:17:21 PM
This is the first Clearview stop sign that I've ever seen:

(http://i.imgur.com/1jYqmZg.png)

It's located in Abbotsford (http://goo.gl/qjVX1r), British Columbia.

Oh gosh, please don't let that spread to the US.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Revive 755 on June 15, 2014, 12:53:24 PM
I only started paying attention to signs about a year ago, but I too have only seen this sign in Canada. There is a sort of half-symbol-half-text no turn on red sign a number of blocks south at the off-ramp from I-5 North (http://goo.gl/HN1lM3) but this is the only American symbol-only no turn on red that I have ever seen.

The half symbol no turn on red sign is fairly common in Missouri.  IIRC there's also one somewhere around Kenosha, WI.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on June 18, 2014, 03:21:24 PM
This is the first Clearview stop sign that I've ever seen:

(http://i.imgur.com/1jYqmZg.png)

It's located in Abbotsford (http://goo.gl/qjVX1r), British Columbia.

Oh gosh, please don't let that spread to the US.

They have, I've seen them.

Now, for the best looking stop signs out there, I prefer Michigan's custom font.

https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=42.361655,-83.275274&spn=0.002259,0.005284&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=42.361655,-83.275274&panoid=5HcemoS5yqYNmaa7eD7r2A&cbp=12,325.34,,2,-0.32

The "S" has the same curvature on both the top and bottom parts, unlike FHWA which is smaller on top.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ctsignguy on June 19, 2014, 08:21:36 AM
I liked Ohio's old-style STOPs....you could see THAT message from quite the distance away!

(http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u102/ctsignguy/Main%20Sign%20Collection/ODOTstopyellow_zpsf261a7f8.jpg) (http://s166.photobucket.com/user/ctsignguy/media/Main%20Sign%20Collection/ODOTstopyellow_zpsf261a7f8.jpg.html)

(http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u102/ctsignguy/Main%20Sign%20Collection/ODOTstopred-a_zps3c34b496.jpg) (http://s166.photobucket.com/user/ctsignguy/media/Main%20Sign%20Collection/ODOTstopred-a_zps3c34b496.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: iowahighways on June 19, 2014, 08:41:38 PM
One for the "wordy signs" category from downtown Davenport, IA:

(https://farm7.staticflickr.com/6165/6178087998_da638a1ff6.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1 on June 19, 2014, 08:44:53 PM
One for the "wordy signs" category from downtown Davenport, IA:

(https://farm7.staticflickr.com/6165/6178087998_da638a1ff6.jpg)

At least that's supposed to be read while you are not moving. A sign with this much text that is meant to be read at 30+ miles per hour would not work.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on June 19, 2014, 10:08:22 PM
Block Face -- sounds like an insult of one's appearance.  :-D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Alex4897 on June 19, 2014, 10:14:40 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/aBReVIN.png)

I walked past this on a college tour today and it caught my eye.  It's interesting for a couple reasons: the compact DE 273 shields, and the twice out-of-date DE 2 shields.

I guess Delaware used to use circular shields for 3-digit routes a while ago, based on photos I've seen.  This is the only one still in use that I've come across though.

The DE 2 shields are leftover from when the route used to cut through Newark on Main St. and Delaware Ave.  DelDOT (or Newark, whoever's in charge of that) did a really poor job at updating the shields when DE 2 was routed around town and Business 2 was assigned through town, then they did an equally poor job at removing the shields when Business 2 was deleted last summer.  There's DE 2 shields all through downtown Newark, so I wouldn't have posted anything about it in this thread had it not been for those old DE 273 shields.

(I wasn't sure where to post this sign, it kinda qualifies for a few different threads)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: route56 on June 20, 2014, 01:46:10 AM
Here's a sign.... but where's the signpost?

(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2927/14269184017_fd07e75e52.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/nJVih6)
48963 (https://flic.kr/p/nJVih6) by richiekennedy56 (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

From the "You had one (temporary) job" department:
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2925/14040924667_2cb66f4a5d.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/noKpJ4)
48843 (https://flic.kr/p/noKpJ4) by richiekennedy56 (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: xcellntbuy on June 20, 2014, 08:38:26 AM
This is the first Clearview stop sign that I've ever seen:

(http://i.imgur.com/1jYqmZg.png)

It's located in Abbotsford (http://goo.gl/qjVX1r), British Columbia.

Oh gosh, please don't let that spread to the US.

They have, I've seen them.

Now, for the best looking stop signs out there, I prefer Michigan's custom font.

https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=42.361655,-83.275274&spn=0.002259,0.005284&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=42.361655,-83.275274&panoid=5HcemoS5yqYNmaa7eD7r2A&cbp=12,325.34,,2,-0.32

The "S" has the same curvature on both the top and bottom parts, unlike FHWA which is smaller on top.
That font on the stop sign used to be seen often in the New England states many years ago.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Pete from Boston on June 22, 2014, 08:41:28 PM
Orange, Mass:

(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2936/14298409270_bfd25521cd.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/93617544@N08/14298409270/)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kniwt on June 23, 2014, 11:07:50 PM
Found this new-ish one today at the junction of NT 1 and NT 3. Canada's most northerly exit sign? It's so cute when the kids get together and play Make-Believe Freeway. But it's designed so well!
(http://i.imgur.com/Fai0DhU.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on June 23, 2014, 11:20:16 PM
Orange, Mass:

(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2936/14298409270_bfd25521cd.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/93617544@N08/14298409270/)

That is the first time I have ever seen a city have TWO separate Main Streets which cross each other!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Thing 342 on June 24, 2014, 02:31:14 PM
Found this new-ish one today at the junction of NT 1 and NT 3. Canada's most northerly exit sign? It's so cute when the kids get together and play Make-Believe Freeway. But it's designed so well!
(http://i.imgur.com/Fai0DhU.jpg)
NWT's route marker is far too small to be legible on a BGS (or, in this case, a LBS)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: english si on June 24, 2014, 02:43:40 PM
But in the Arctic, roads are known by names, not number. Yellowknife is going to be more useful as NWT3 is the Yellowknife Highway.

Note that (paper) mapping agencies put these names fairly prominently on the maps.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Pete from Boston on June 24, 2014, 07:06:58 PM

Orange, Mass:

(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2936/14298409270_bfd25521cd.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/93617544@N08/14298409270/)

That is the first time I have ever seen a city have TWO separate Main Streets which cross each other!

This was an added bonus.  I first went back for the picture for the traffic-light-mounted street sign, only later discovering it was at the intersection of four Main Streets.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JakeFromNewEngland on June 25, 2014, 11:56:30 AM
(http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af138/jakez1112/ScreenShot2014-06-25at114901AM_zps99e004f5.png)

This is one of the interesting signs in my city. In a way, the Derby/Waterbury sign makes sense because the road it's on eventually leads to CT 121 which provides connections to both cities via CT 34 and CT 8. I'm surprised the city hasn't replaced it because it's been there for awhile I would assume.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on June 26, 2014, 05:35:25 PM
Found this sign while wondering around on Google Street View:

https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=29.053075,-95.453918&spn=0.005383,0.010568&t=h&z=17&layer=c&cbll=29.053072,-95.45597&panoid=B2sVH9G5VdT1dgWZtqefxw&cbp=12,224.8,,1,1.38

It's a little strange, especially the part that says "This Way" with the dinky arrow off to the side.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mass_citizen on June 27, 2014, 02:13:59 AM
lol. nice find. "this way" should at least be in all caps!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on June 27, 2014, 01:56:23 PM

Orange, Mass:

(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2936/14298409270_bfd25521cd.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/93617544@N08/14298409270/)

That is the first time I have ever seen a city have TWO separate Main Streets which cross each other!

This was an added bonus.  I first went back for the picture for the traffic-light-mounted street sign, only later discovering it was at the intersection of four Main Streets.

Four Main Streets, it makes Atlanta's Peachtree system seem sensible in comparison.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: WichitaRoads on June 27, 2014, 02:30:08 PM

Orange, Mass:

(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2936/14298409270_bfd25521cd.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/93617544@N08/14298409270/)

That is the first time I have ever seen a city have TWO separate Main Streets which cross each other!

This was an added bonus.  I first went back for the picture for the traffic-light-mounted street sign, only later discovering it was at the intersection of four Main Streets.

Four Main Streets, it makes Atlanta's Peachtree system seem sensible in comparison.

How old is the image? If you look at Google images, the signs are not there... but, it was last updated in 2009.

ICTRds
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 27, 2014, 03:20:30 PM

Orange, Mass:


That is the first time I have ever seen a city have TWO separate Main Streets which cross each other!

This was an added bonus.  I first went back for the picture for the traffic-light-mounted street sign, only later discovering it was at the intersection of four Main Streets.

Four Main Streets, it makes Atlanta's Peachtree system seem sensible in comparison.

How old is the image? If you look at Google images, the signs are not there... but, it was last updated in 2009.

ICTRds

Google Street view circa 2008 does not show it, however, imagery from 2011 does. It's likely a new addition to the signal.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Billy F 1988 on June 29, 2014, 12:10:35 AM
(http://i917.photobucket.com/albums/ad16/BJFRacing01/IMG_2347_zps3ab16bd6.jpg)

The remnant of what US 10 was back in the day. The shield is still there in its glory, of which it was painted on this Milwaukee Road underpass bridge. When the Milwaukee Road was decomissioned in 1980, the bridge was removed along with the trackage, however the supporting structure is still there.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: route56 on June 30, 2014, 12:31:53 AM
Extremely obvious and poor sign overlaying:

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3926/14516068195_9633bd0687.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/o7JDkR)
49046 (https://flic.kr/p/o7JDkR) by richiekennedy56 (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3869/14329472409_8fdf270ebd.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/nQfhV8)
49047 (https://flic.kr/p/nQfhV8) by richiekennedy56 (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 30, 2014, 01:55:21 AM
Clearview Signage in Washington State:

Washington State is not part of the list of states that use Clearview. Thus, the following photos do not depict WSDOT-installed signage. What they do depict, however, is big-green-sign signage that, while not DOT-installed, is Port of Seattle-installed. The signs are installed along what is basically a freeway connecting WA-518 to the airport. It's interesting to see the way the Port has signed things. The photos are in order from north, south along the freeway, and then back north again to the northern end where it began (in essence, a big U-turn). I consider the signs unique because Washington does not use Clearview. If you are in Washington, from my knowledge, this is the only place where you can be travelling 60 mph and have Clearview directing you.

If the following gallery is better suited for another thread, let me know. I'm well known for placing things in the wrong area.

(http://i.imgur.com/o2LVYz3.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/47Kpznf.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/LD2nZ45.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/4uKILjC.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/JDerwQL.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/cPDNke6.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/LdjfTX3.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on June 30, 2014, 10:10:28 AM
I prefer that over Frutiger or whatever it is airports tend to use on signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on June 30, 2014, 10:39:07 AM
I prefer that over Frutiger or whatever it is airports tend to use on signs.

I think Frutiger looks nice actually for airport signing. At least it's better than Arial/Helvetica.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on July 05, 2014, 10:41:25 AM
Unique to CDOT (Chicago) signage:

(http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz298/midamcrossrds/100_4112_zps6497a1d4.jpg) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4112_zps6497a1d4.jpg.html)

(http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz298/midamcrossrds/100_4157_zps272e8a7a.jpg) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4157_zps272e8a7a.jpg.html)

(http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz298/midamcrossrds/100_4171_zps8ad0a9e0.jpg) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4171_zps8ad0a9e0.jpg.html)

(http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz298/midamcrossrds/100_4168_zps33d4da12.jpg) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4168_zps33d4da12.jpg.html)

(http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz298/midamcrossrds/100_4106_zps928d9ac6.jpg) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4106_zps928d9ac6.jpg.html)

(http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz298/midamcrossrds/100_4115_zpsb00eef27.jpg) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4115_zpsb00eef27.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on July 05, 2014, 11:22:22 AM
I don't think I've ever seen block numbers on signs that aren't street blade signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on July 05, 2014, 01:07:34 PM
I don't think I've ever seen block numbers on signs that aren't street blade signs.

Chicago even puts block numbers on freeway exit BGS, don't they?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CtrlAltDel on July 05, 2014, 02:06:19 PM
Chicago even puts block numbers on freeway exit BGS, don't they?

Yes, it does. On I-290 East:

(http://i61.tinypic.com/28tdxs4.png)

Image from Google Street View
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on July 05, 2014, 05:28:02 PM
I don't think I've ever seen block numbers on signs that aren't street blade signs.

Chicago even puts block numbers on freeway exit BGS, don't they?

Yes, within Chicago only.  Here's a few examples, various expressways:

(http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz298/midamcrossrds/100_2145.jpg) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_2145.jpg.html)

(http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz298/midamcrossrds/100_4139_zps6de53f7a.jpg) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4139_zps6de53f7a.jpg.html)

(http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz298/midamcrossrds/100_4149_zps3e11b26e.jpg) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4149_zps3e11b26e.jpg.html)

The city also posts them on signals.

(http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz298/midamcrossrds/100_4167_zps19899d81.jpg) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4167_zps19899d81.jpg.html)

(http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz298/midamcrossrds/100_4169_zps054575be.jpg) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4169_zps054575be.jpg.html)

(http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz298/midamcrossrds/100_4170_zps51a2919b.jpg) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4170_zps51a2919b.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on July 05, 2014, 05:45:04 PM
Yes, within Chicago only.  Here's a few examples, various expressways:

(http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz298/midamcrossrds/100_2145.jpg) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_2145.jpg.html)

Slightly off topic, but are there exits 51 A-G somewhere before that exit?  :)

(http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz298/midamcrossrds/100_4169_zps054575be.jpg) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4169_zps054575be.jpg.html)

How NOT to do font-stretching, by Chicago Dept. of Transportation...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kacie Jane on July 05, 2014, 05:46:44 PM
If you are in Washington, from my knowledge, this is the only place where you can be travelling 60 mph and have Clearview directing you.

Double check the sixth image, and you'll see that's not quite true.  (And I think the speed limit is 40 for most of the rest of it.)  But yeah, this is the only place I can think of in Washington that has Clearview on a freeway, though there are a few towns and counties that use it.  Everett is probably the most prominent one.

(This might explain why there's Clearview on Elliot Ave W at the Magnolia Bridge in Seattle.  I always assumed it was a city project, but I wonder if those signs were Port-erected, since they partially have to do with the cruise terminal.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on July 05, 2014, 07:45:44 PM
Yes, within Chicago only.  Here's a few examples, various expressways:

(http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz298/midamcrossrds/100_2145.jpg) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_2145.jpg.html)

Slightly off topic, but are there exits 51 A-G somewhere before that exit?  :)

Yes.  IDOT skips for this signage to get people into the correct lane for the Ike/Congress.

(http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz298/midamcrossrds/100_4144_zpsc60c8cae.jpg) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4144_zpsc60c8cae.jpg.html)

(http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz298/midamcrossrds/100_4145_zps61a0c82e.jpg) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4145_zps61a0c82e.jpg.html)

(http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz298/midamcrossrds/100_4148_zps78dbcefc.jpg) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4148_zps78dbcefc.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on July 05, 2014, 08:55:41 PM

(http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz298/midamcrossrds/100_4170_zps51a2919b.jpg) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4170_zps51a2919b.jpg.html)
Getting off topic, but this Chicago intersection allows a left turn on green or green arrow, unlike some other Chicago intersections that allow a left only on a green arrow with a 5-section tower in both cases.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 05, 2014, 09:30:10 PM
If you are in Washington, from my knowledge, this is the only place where you can be travelling 60 mph and have Clearview directing you.

Double check the sixth image, and you'll see that's not quite true.  (And I think the speed limit is 40 for most of the rest of it.)  But yeah, this is the only place I can think of in Washington that has Clearview on a freeway, though there are a few towns and counties that use it.  Everett is probably the most prominent one.

(This might explain why there's Clearview on Elliot Ave W at the Magnolia Bridge in Seattle.  I always assumed it was a city project, but I wonder if those signs were Port-erected, since they partially have to do with the cruise terminal.)

Does anyone actually go 40? So the Port of Seattle built a road to freeway-standards and then implement a 40 mph speed limit? I could easily fight that in court.

Fife has some pretty widespread Clearview, along with Puyallup and some signs in Tacoma (I can get specific if you're interested).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kacie Jane on July 05, 2014, 09:56:29 PM
I'm not sure where exactly the 40 MPH speed limit starts, it might be 60 closer to 518.  I'd guess average speed isn't much above 50, definitely nowhere close to 60.  Too many curves (and poor visibility around them) especially post-Light Rail construction.  Also, I'm guessing unpredictable congestion might be part of the reason for the low speed limit.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 05, 2014, 10:02:10 PM
I'm not sure where exactly the 40 MPH speed limit starts, it might be 60 closer to 518.  I'd guess average speed isn't much above 50, definitely nowhere close to 60.  Too many curves (and poor visibility around them) especially post-Light Rail construction.  Also, I'm guessing unpredictable congestion might be part of the reason for the low speed limit.

My suggestion: Speed limit 60 with a 40 mph advisory. The speed limit is a limit. I certainly don't feel a need to travel over 60.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on July 07, 2014, 04:29:56 PM
Clearview Signage in Washington State:
(snip)

I passed under some of these signs this past week. Flew into Seattle to catch a cruise to Alaska.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kacie Jane on July 07, 2014, 07:05:39 PM
On the topic of oddly-fonted signs in Washington, there's this one approaching Tacoma on I-5 SB.

https://www.google.com/maps/@47.24586,-122.33444,3a,15y,234.74h,92.14t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sR5UZ7si4CZfIBBL16VLtsw!2e0
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on July 07, 2014, 07:07:14 PM
On the topic of oddly-fonted signs in Washington, there's this one approaching Tacoma on I-5 SB.

https://www.google.com/maps/@47.24586,-122.33444,3a,15y,234.74h,92.14t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sR5UZ7si4CZfIBBL16VLtsw!2e0

That looks like Calibri, which is the default font for all newer Microsoft Office applications.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 07, 2014, 07:13:44 PM
On the topic of oddly-fonted signs in Washington, there's this one approaching Tacoma on I-5 SB.

https://www.google.com/maps/@47.24586,-122.33444,3a,15y,234.74h,92.14t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sR5UZ7si4CZfIBBL16VLtsw!2e0

That looks like Calibri, which is the default font for all newer Microsoft Office applications.

Kacie, you have no idea how close we were to posting damn near the same sign.

Also, looks more to me like Myriad Pro Condensed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on July 07, 2014, 07:52:21 PM
It's definitely not Calibri, but I'm not sure what it is. Could also be Frutiger Light. It's hard to tell from the angle the image is at.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Revive 755 on July 07, 2014, 09:47:23 PM
Not sure I've seen a yield sign with "cross traffic does not stop" before, but I certainly wouldn't mind seeing a few more of them.  Here's one south of the IL 117 interchange with I-74 (https://www.google.com/maps?q=morton,+il&hl=en&ll=40.619727,-89.274763&spn=0.007085,0.016512&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=59.597077,135.263672&hnear=Morton,+Tazewell+County,+Illinois&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=40.619929,-89.274768&panoid=nPlKZX6YYaOlySnX2yGEyg&cbp=12,216.49,,0,8.83)


Regarding having block numbers on freeway signs, there are three time this happens on the Missouri side of the St. Louis area:

1) NB I-55 at Broadway (Exit 204) (https://www.google.com/maps?q=st.+louis,+mo&hl=en&ll=38.572319,-90.236592&spn=0.007298,0.016512&sll=40.61993,-89.274763&sspn=0.007118,0.016512&hnear=St+Louis,+Missouri&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=38.57251,-90.236356&panoid=7iyGKWuD6E3zSd-MBd995w&cbp=12,52.72,,0,0.88)

2) NB I-55 at 3200 Broadway (Exit 206B) (https://www.google.com/maps?q=st.+louis,+mo&hl=en&ll=38.590686,-90.213998&spn=0.014659,0.033023&sll=40.61993,-89.274763&sspn=0.007118,0.016512&hnear=St+Louis,+Missouri&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=38.590686,-90.213998&panoid=ZoRsyzcJ0m93D3TEdLxGxQ&cbp=12,4.71,,1,-0.26)

3) WB US 40 for 3000 Market Street (https://www.google.com/maps?q=st.+louis,+mo&hl=en&ll=38.626018,-90.210987&spn=0.003663,0.008256&sll=40.61993,-89.274763&sspn=0.007118,0.016512&hnear=St+Louis,+Missouri&t=m&z=18&layer=c&cbll=38.626018,-90.210987&panoid=zC6zoC7muUCFNbaL5CYGtA&cbp=12,304.08,,0,0)

Or how about an interchange sequence sign with exit numbers?  WB US 40 in the Chesterfield area (https://www.google.com/maps?q=st.+louis,+mo&hl=en&ll=38.647227,-90.532708&spn=0.014647,0.033023&sll=40.61993,-89.274763&sspn=0.007118,0.016512&hnear=St+Louis,+Missouri&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=38.647094,-90.532022&panoid=sGuR07forqaBtxgJ2qZ_0Q&cbp=12,279.71,,0,-1.99)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 07, 2014, 11:00:50 PM
Not sure I've seen a yield sign with "cross traffic does not stop" before, but I certainly wouldn't mind seeing a few more of them.  Here's one south of the IL 117 interchange with I-74 (https://www.google.com/maps?q=morton,+il&hl=en&ll=40.619727,-89.274763&spn=0.007085,0.016512&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=59.597077,135.263672&hnear=Morton,+Tazewell+County,+Illinois&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=40.619929,-89.274768&panoid=nPlKZX6YYaOlySnX2yGEyg&cbp=12,216.49,,0,8.83)

Nothing like a right-angle yield. And that isn't me being sarcastic...I genuinely like them. Especially in this case, where visibility is wide and clear.

Although, in regards to the "cross traffic does not stop" sign, it seems redundant, considering the "Yield" sign basically waves your priority at an intersection anyways. "Cross traffic does not stop" is basically a lengthy way of saying "yield".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ian on July 08, 2014, 10:05:34 PM
There's definitely enough room for "Parkway" to be spelled out at the bottom. These are inside the service station just before exit 11 in Brooklyn.

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3863/14609090185_0b23a7bcd9_z.jpg)

Also, are there any Belt Parkway shields elsewhere besides this service station?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Alps on July 09, 2014, 12:37:48 AM
There's definitely enough room for "Parkway" to be spelled out at the bottom. These are inside the service station just before exit 11 in Brooklyn.

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3863/14609090185_0b23a7bcd9_z.jpg)

Also, are there any Belt Parkway shields elsewhere besides this service station?
I've seen this design before, so yes, but I believe only on select intersecting streets.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Pete from Boston on July 09, 2014, 12:41:22 PM

There's definitely enough room for "Parkway" to be spelled out at the bottom. These are inside the service station just before exit 11 in Brooklyn.

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3863/14609090185_0b23a7bcd9_z.jpg)

Also, are there any Belt Parkway shields elsewhere besides this service station?

If you can read this, you're driving too slow.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on July 09, 2014, 12:51:52 PM
^^ And the sign for the left arrow should be left of the sign for the through arrow.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ian on July 09, 2014, 01:38:29 PM
^^ And the sign for the left arrow should be left of the sign for the through arrow.

The perfectionist in me saw that as well. There is another one set up similar to this on the other side of the service station.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on July 09, 2014, 03:32:21 PM
There's definitely enough room for "Parkway" to be spelled out at the bottom.

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3863/14609090185_0b23a7bcd9_z.jpg)

Looks like the "B" and "P" are aligned intentionally. That wouldn't happen (or would be quite ugly) if "Parkway" were spelled out.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ian on July 09, 2014, 04:16:31 PM
There's definitely enough room for "Parkway" to be spelled out at the bottom.

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3863/14609090185_0b23a7bcd9_z.jpg)

Looks like the "B" and "P" are aligned intentionally. That wouldn't happen (or would be quite ugly) if "Parkway" were spelled out.

I'd honestly rather it be spelled out and misaligned than to have to read "Belt Pickwee" in my head, but that's just me.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on July 09, 2014, 04:23:42 PM
There's definitely enough room for "Parkway" to be spelled out at the bottom.

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3863/14609090185_0b23a7bcd9_z.jpg)

Looks like the "B" and "P" are aligned intentionally. That wouldn't happen (or would be quite ugly) if "Parkway" were spelled out.

I'd honestly rather it be spelled out and misaligned than to have to read "Belt Pickwee" in my head, but that's just me.

So these would make you say "Expee"?

(http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz298/midamcrossrds/100_2128.jpg) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_2128.jpg.html)

(http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz298/midamcrossrds/100_2778.jpg) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_2778.jpg.html)

Or how about "Rit"?

(http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz298/midamcrossrds/100_2235.jpg) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_2235.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ian on July 09, 2014, 04:30:46 PM
^ In my head, yes, but it looks like there isn't a whole lot of room on those signs to spell out the entire word. In the shields (that's another thing, my photo has actual shields) in my photo, there's more than enough room for it to be spelled out.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on July 09, 2014, 04:59:05 PM
This speed limit sign is in a neighborhood right by Lake Guntersville:
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2928/14592154456_53bbfb72f4.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oesB8W)
Unique Speed Limit Sign (https://flic.kr/p/oesB8W) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on July 09, 2014, 09:05:48 PM
....

So these would make you say "Expee"?

....

Heh. When my brother, our cousins, and I were kids, we'd ride with our grandfather from Bay Ridge to Breezy Point each day during the summer and our grandfather got us started reading the road signs on the Belt Parkway exactly as they appeared—hence, "Ocean Pickway," "Coney Is Av," "K-napp St," "Shell Rid," etc. We then started doing that Every. Single. Time we were on the Belt Parkway for the next several years (all of us screaming them out in unison). I'm sure our parents wanted to kill us and our grandfather!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: agentsteel53 on July 09, 2014, 09:13:20 PM

So these would make you say "Expee"?

for the longest time - before I lived there - I had no idea what a very common SoCal abbreviation meant.  I pronounced it the same as "sin".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 10, 2014, 06:57:54 PM
Saw this yesterday in Seattle. Must be like an early version of an FYA:

(http://i.imgur.com/zab1Foy.png)

Everything you see has since been replaced by a new set of signs and signals, but the "stop on red" concept still continues. Why not just use an FYA like the rest of the country?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: route56 on July 10, 2014, 07:46:52 PM
Saw this yesterday in Seattle. Must be like an early version of an FYA:

(http://i.imgur.com/zab1Foy.png)

Everything you see has since been replaced by a new set of signs and signals, but the "stop on red" concept still continues. Why not just use an FYA like the rest of the country?

Actually, that sounds like a place where the flashing red arrow would be appropriate.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 10, 2014, 07:49:19 PM
Saw this yesterday in Seattle. Must be like an early version of an FYA:

Everything you see has since been replaced by a new set of signs and signals, but the "stop on red" concept still continues. Why not just use an FYA like the rest of the country?

Actually, that sounds like a place where the flashing red arrow would be appropriate.

Such heresy would never be committed in Washington.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mefailenglish on July 12, 2014, 05:19:53 PM
If you can read "Willard Smith Rd" you are a better person than I.

(http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg36/jcm9572/IMG_2296_zpsf390c99b.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 13, 2014, 03:34:07 AM
If you can read "Willard Smith Rd" you are a better person than I.

(http://i.imgur.com/2od8e0A.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CtrlAltDel on July 13, 2014, 11:55:30 PM
for the longest time - before I lived there - I had no idea what a very common SoCal abbreviation meant.  I pronounced it the same as "sin".

That would be Cyn, for Canyon. And it took me about six months to realize it wasn't some geographic term that I had just never heard of before. Thought it was something like a glen, to be honest.
Title: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on July 14, 2014, 09:12:29 AM
If you can read "Willard Smith Rd" you are a better person than I.

Especially at 65 mph on Southern Boulevard.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wxfree on July 14, 2014, 12:55:48 PM
Somervell County (Texas) Road 2012 has a short stretch going down a slope on a submaturely dissected plateau.  I'm a flatlander, but I've been up and down a few hills.  This incline isn't very long, but I call it "Oh Shit Hill," which isn't in my everyday vocabulary.  I don't know how steep it is, but going down is scary.  On the way up, there's a sign, W7-1, showing a truck going down an incline, turned 90 degrees to show the truck climbing an extremely steep hill.  I don't have a photo, but I rotated an image I found online.

(http://www.patternsandprinciples.com/otherfiles/rs/w7-1n.jpg)
That sign's about right for the way that hill feels.

Edit: Maybe that's why they numbered it 2012, with the end-of-the world beliefs.  The way down feels like driving off the end of the earth, especially around the blind curve.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 18, 2014, 02:01:24 AM
One last Seatac Airport sign...warning sign with the lane guides??

(http://i.imgur.com/k0ighyr.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: national highway 1 on July 19, 2014, 01:45:49 AM
If you can read "Willard Smith Rd" you are a better person than I.

(http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg36/jcm9572/IMG_2296_zpsf390c99b.jpg)
Is that road named after the actor Will Smith? (whose full name is Willard)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on July 22, 2014, 09:08:56 PM
As seen at a 5 point intersection:
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2896/14721570855_ba5b58eef9.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oqTU8a)
Holmes Avenue (https://flic.kr/p/oqTU8a) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

Here's the same sign from the other side:
https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=34.738783,-86.576901&spn=0.000002,0.001032&t=h&z=21&layer=c&cbll=34.738783,-86.576901&panoid=RmtRTviuKBc3VyEpW-L6PA&cbp=12,193.48,,2,-18.88
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wisvishr0 on July 22, 2014, 10:05:51 PM
I found this interesting sign in Spring TX. The signals are all horizontal here (which is itself pretty scary for a Marylander), and then I came across this sign:

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/wisvishr0/ScreenShot2014-07-22at112026AM.png)

The standard in Texas is (usually) the same in the rest of the country: warning signs for traffic lights are vertical. It seems that this specific person who put up this sign hasn't been out of the state, and decided to change the standard to how he thought it was supposed to be. Growing up in Texas, you'd think all traffic signals were horizontal. I guess there is no reason for it to be vertical there, but according to the Texas MUTCD, that's the only way.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on July 24, 2014, 02:31:50 PM
It really makes more sense for the sign to match the actual signal.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MillTheRoadgeek on July 24, 2014, 07:49:44 PM
At the intersection of Manassas Drive and Euclid Avenue in Manassas Park, the turning lane directions are on a mast arm prior to the actual signals, which are actually on a spanwire (Funny, huh?).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 25, 2014, 05:26:09 PM
How common is it for BGSs to display "Either Lane"? Perhaps I've just never noticed it before. It seems to me like a lazy replacement for two arrows.

Valley Mall Blvd @ I-82, Yakima, WA (http://goo.gl/SjT19I)

(http://i.imgur.com/9gijvZN.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on July 25, 2014, 09:47:40 PM
I've seen "BOTH LANES" in a lot of places
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Alex4897 on July 26, 2014, 12:54:05 AM
"Either Lane" seems a lot more casual than "Both Lanes"

It's like "Oh, you can pick either lane, it doesn't bother me. Go ahead and do what you want."
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mergingtraffic on July 26, 2014, 01:12:16 PM
Unique....for NY.  These signs are on the LaGuardia Service Road by the Grand Central Pkwy.  NY's BGSs usually have rounded corners, but these are squared corners with curved borderline.  Plus non-reflectivity and buttons.


(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2929/14742658034_fe86171e76.jpg)


(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2927/14741845231_144cd2d25f.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SSOWorld on July 26, 2014, 07:33:46 PM
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2933/14772555433_082291fc99_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ovpd4B)

Pay careful attention to the washer at the top of the shield...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on July 28, 2014, 10:29:48 AM
While these BGS' were recently replaced; the previous BGS on the right showed a quasi-CalTrans approach to exit-tab signage (http://goo.gl/maps/L4lsj) for most of its life.  The BGS predated PennDOT's conversion to mile-marker based exits.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wisvishr0 on July 30, 2014, 05:13:04 PM
Just saw this while I was walking down Connecticut Avenue in Van Ness, Washington DC: it's a private sign. The guy who designed it must have either been colorblind or an optimist.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/31/a6a2e7a9.jpg)

Yes it's green, not red.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on July 31, 2014, 09:00:53 PM
Here's an odd one in southern Morgan County, AL:
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3906/14611529269_a23ac0d594.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ogaUAr)
Curve Ahead Sign (https://flic.kr/p/ogaUAr) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on August 05, 2014, 09:42:13 PM
This one was actually a bit creepy. It looks photoshopped but I can assure you it's not. It's actually behind the building where I work. It may have been there a day; it may have been there several months. I may have walked right by it many times. It's on a faded 'No Parking Any Time' sign. Whoever did it definitely took their time.

(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd144/roadnut/54C7C405-4F29-4633-ABD1-2B813CEC3BB4.jpg) (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/roadnut/media/54C7C405-4F29-4633-ABD1-2B813CEC3BB4.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: machias on August 06, 2014, 01:20:12 AM
I've often read some joking about that someday a DOT somewhere is going to use Comic Sans on their signs.

Well here you go, courtesy of NYSDOT Region 5.

(http://upstatenyroads.com/aaroads/comic-sans.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on August 06, 2014, 01:46:10 AM
I've often read some joking about that someday a DOT somewhere is going to use Comic Sans on their signs.

Well here you go, courtesy of NYSDOT Region 5.

(http://upstatenyroads.com/aaroads/comic-sans.jpg)

Leave it to Region 5 to make a sign that induces vomiting. That might be worse than the relatively new signs on NY 198 and NY 400.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 06, 2014, 03:36:39 AM
A rather interesting roundabout diagram from Sidney, BC (photo courtesy of wjis21 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/wjis21/6098334138/) of Flickr):

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6210/6098334138_b6f97e134e_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on August 06, 2014, 05:47:38 PM
I've often read some joking about that someday a DOT somewhere is going to use Comic Sans on their signs.

Well here you go, courtesy of NYSDOT Region 5.

(http://upstatenyroads.com/aaroads/comic-sans.jpg)

Is there supposed to be some sort of significance to that? If so, it's lost on me.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on August 06, 2014, 06:01:19 PM
joë' hesta' is the current Great Leader of Nimbya.  The sign is alerting motorists to beware of his presence.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MillTheRoadgeek on August 06, 2014, 06:37:59 PM
Just beyond VA 28 on US 50, there is a sign that reads "Lane End Merge Right". I can't find pictures of it, but I noticed it today.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on August 06, 2014, 06:58:25 PM
Just beyond VA 28 on US 50, there is a sign that reads "Lane Ends Merge Right". I can't find pictures of it, but I noticed it today.
Like this in WI: https://www.google.com/maps/@44.354048,-89.124371,3a,75y,251.02h,94.16t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sv7Tbl0Q3lKWn9cZeaDLuxw!2e0

Blurry though and a closer shot blurs out the first 2 lines.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on August 06, 2014, 10:49:11 PM
I've often read some joking about that someday a DOT somewhere is going to use Comic Sans on their signs.

Well here you go, courtesy of NYSDOT Region 5.

(http://upstatenyroads.com/aaroads/comic-sans.jpg)

Is there supposed to be some sort of significance to that? If so, it's lost on me.

On the section of NY 17 that runs through the reservation, Region 5 decided to put location names in the native language in addition to English. There's also a sign calling the Allegheny River "Ohiyo".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on August 06, 2014, 10:53:39 PM
I now present this LGS, courtesy of GSV and Lancaster, NY, located at the exit of a small industrial park. Sign attempts to direct people south on Central Avenue to US 20. Instead, we get a NJDOT-style shield and an arrow pointing to US 20 south.

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.913067,-78.670091,3a,75y,293.96h,79.21t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sjXg-ckdz42hRBeDo0CQXjA!2e0
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on August 07, 2014, 10:31:08 AM
On the section of NY 17 that runs through the reservation, Region 5 decided to put location names in the native language in addition to English. There's also a sign calling the Allegheny River "Ohiyo".

I remember seeing that sign, as well as others, when I drove that section of I-86 a few years ago, but did not know this was one of those signs, as I don't remember the Seneca language signs being in Comic Sans back then. Guess I'll have to  go dig through my pictures for a refresher.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: machias on August 07, 2014, 04:58:23 PM
On the section of NY 17 that runs through the reservation, Region 5 decided to put location names in the native language in addition to English. There's also a sign calling the Allegheny River "Ohiyo".

I remember seeing that sign, as well as others, when I drove that section of I-86 a few years ago, but did not know this was one of those signs, as I don't remember the Seneca language signs being in Comic Sans back then. Guess I'll have to  go dig through my pictures for a refresher.

Only the signs installed on the recent contract are in Comic Sans, otherwise they're in Helvetica/Arial.  I appreciate the fact that they're doing that on the reservation, but I don't know why they can't use the FHWA lettering or Clearview, albeit with some added accents and such.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: KEK Inc. on August 07, 2014, 06:02:19 PM
Saw this yesterday in Seattle. Must be like an early version of an FYA:

(http://i.imgur.com/zab1Foy.png)

Everything you see has since been replaced by a new set of signs and signals, but the "stop on red" concept still continues. Why not just use an FYA like the rest of the country?

Here's a silly one:
https://www.google.com/maps/@47.656216,-122.317911,3a,15.2y,166.14h,88.97t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sCGcBqJt9RAAZWmTmrC5bog!2e0
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: agentsteel53 on August 07, 2014, 06:41:41 PM
Region 5 decided to put location names in the native language in addition to English.

I refuse to believe that Comic Sans is anything but a white people affectation.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: agentsteel53 on August 07, 2014, 06:42:36 PM
Saw this yesterday in Seattle. Must be like an early version of an FYA:

(http://i.imgur.com/zab1Foy.png)

Everything you see has since been replaced by a new set of signs and signals, but the "stop on red" concept still continues. Why not just use an FYA like the rest of the country?

why use a FYA at all?  why make the driver stop?  "you may turn left on solid green ball after yielding to oncoming traffic" is probably even in the Vienna Convention; that's how universal it is.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mass_citizen on August 08, 2014, 02:09:32 AM
Just beyond VA 28 on US 50, there is a sign that reads "Lane Ends Merge Right". I can't find pictures of it, but I noticed it today.
Like this in WI: https://www.google.com/maps/@44.354048,-89.124371,3a,75y,251.02h,94.16t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sv7Tbl0Q3lKWn9cZeaDLuxw!2e0

Blurry though and a closer shot blurs out the first 2 lines.

I'm confused, does the one you posted have some kind of error? This is a fairly common sign in Massachusetts. Assuming its an old standard.

Here is one that reads "Lane Ends Merge Left"

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.226304,-71.031832,3a,15y,11.37h,85.31t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s4baw3RHpHli99LQC5i9Ykg!2e0?hl=en
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 08, 2014, 02:28:45 AM
Saw this yesterday in Seattle. Must be like an early version of an FYA:

Everything you see has since been replaced by a new set of signs and signals, but the "stop on red" concept still continues. Why not just use an FYA like the rest of the country?

why use a FYA at all?  why make the driver stop?  "you may turn left on solid green ball after yielding to oncoming traffic" is probably even in the Vienna Convention; that's how universal it is.

The signal has a protected phase, so I'm not sure how you could work in a solid green ball, other than by using a signal like (this (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.249297,-122.437703,3a,15y,155.81h,106.18t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1savIZKXt32_odVey1cB1Dag!2e0)).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on August 08, 2014, 08:35:01 AM
Saw this yesterday in Seattle. Must be like an early version of an FYA:

Everything you see has since been replaced by a new set of signs and signals, but the "stop on red" concept still continues. Why not just use an FYA like the rest of the country?

why use a FYA at all?  why make the driver stop?  "you may turn left on solid green ball after yielding to oncoming traffic" is probably even in the Vienna Convention; that's how universal it is.

The signal has a protected phase, so I'm not sure how you could work in a solid green ball, other than by using a signal like (this (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.249297,-122.437703,3a,15y,155.81h,106.18t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1savIZKXt32_odVey1cB1Dag!2e0)).

Or just use a doghouse signal.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 08, 2014, 06:51:57 PM
Here's something that isn't a sign but in fact an interesting intersection: a traffic circle . . . in the Pacific Northwest?

It's in downtown Longview, WA, about 2 hours south of Seattle. It is legally referred to as R A Long Square. The circle hasn't always been painted with "modern" roundabout lines, and the second photo illustrates the former design. Honestly, the only thing they changed was the RIRO exit-only design into a yield-point entry with shark teeth. Not as obvious are new crosswalks that are the "hump" type. This angered cyclists who participate in the annual Tour-de-Cowlitz County (or whatever it's called) who said it made their life difficult or something.

(http://i.imgur.com/GD7CcZt.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/cORsHji.png)



Saw this yesterday in Seattle. Must be like an early version of an FYA:

Everything you see has since been replaced by a new set of signs and signals, but the "stop on red" concept still continues. Why not just use an FYA like the rest of the country?

why use a FYA at all?  why make the driver stop?  "you may turn left on solid green ball after yielding to oncoming traffic" is probably even in the Vienna Convention; that's how universal it is.

The signal has a protected phase, so I'm not sure how you could work in a solid green ball, other than by using a signal like (this (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.249297,-122.437703,3a,15y,155.81h,106.18t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1savIZKXt32_odVey1cB1Dag!2e0)).

Or just use a doghouse signal.

Isn't the use of doghouse signal-heads more or less discouraged nowadays?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on August 08, 2014, 07:10:30 PM
Isn't the use of doghouse signal-heads more or less discouraged nowadays?
I sure hope not, IMO they're the best kind of signal because turning traffic gets the protected phase but never has a red when straight traffic has a green.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman on August 08, 2014, 07:11:14 PM
I'm confused, does the one you posted have some kind of error? This is a fairly common sign in Massachusetts. Assuming its an old standard.

"Lane Ends Merge Left (Right)" is an MUTCD standard sign (W9-2).  Unless there's a spelling error (can't tell due to Google Street View's capitulation to the tinhat brigade privacy algorithims), I don't see a problem here (if you scroll further, you do see that the right lane drops).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on August 08, 2014, 08:17:15 PM
I'm confused, does the one you posted have some kind of error? This is a fairly common sign in Massachusetts. Assuming its an old standard.

"Lane Ends Merge Left (Right)" is an MUTCD standard sign (W9-2).  Unless there's a spelling error (can't tell due to Google Street View's capitulation to the tinhat brigade privacy algorithims), I don't see a problem here (if you scroll further, you do see that the right lane drops).

It's certainly standard, but several states do explicitly prohibit it in their state supplements/MUTCDs, New York being one example. Confused me when I was a young roadgeek and moved from the Albany area to central Ohio. Almost as strange as the non-MUTCD compliant slanted arrows they use to show option lanes.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on August 08, 2014, 08:25:52 PM
Isn't the use of doghouse signal-heads more or less discouraged nowadays?
I sure hope not, IMO they're the best kind of signal because turning traffic gets the protected phase but never has a red when straight traffic has a green.

Nothing in the MUTCD to suggest otherwise. Section 4D-20 provides the standard and, a couple pages earlier, the shared signal face (doghouse) is listed first in the list of signal options for a permissive/protected turn movement. States that don't use the FYA or flashing red extensively continue to install them en masse. Everyone knows what the indications on a doghouse mean and it's not that hard for the average driver to tell the difference between protected and permissive movements.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on August 09, 2014, 11:31:23 AM
Isn't the use of doghouse signal-heads more or less discouraged nowadays?
I sure hope not, IMO they're the best kind of signal because turning traffic gets the protected phase but never has a red when straight traffic has a green.

Nothing in the MUTCD to suggest otherwise. Section 4D-20 provides the standard and, a couple pages earlier, the shared signal face (doghouse) is listed first in the list of signal options for a permissive/protected turn movement. States that don't use the FYA or flashing red extensively continue to install them en masse. Everyone knows what the indications on a doghouse mean and it's not that hard for the average driver to tell the difference between protected and permissive movements.

The difference is the application of whether the doghouse is a shared signal face or an exclusive signal face solely for the left turn lane. Doghouses can still be installed where they control left and through movements (although the circular indications on a doghouse now must always match what is displayed on the adjacent through signals). A doghouse can no longer be used for Dallas Phasing.

Although it may not be explicitly stated as a standard, guidance in 4D-13 p09 states that new or reconstructed signals should not have circular green displays mounted above or in the median where exclusive left turn lanes are provided. Indeed, all the figures under this section support this concept, with permitted phasing (doghouse or standard) signals being shown mounted over the lane lines between left turn and thru lanes.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 10, 2014, 12:53:54 PM
Saw THESE on a roadtrip through Southwest Washington the other day. There are quite a few of them.

(http://i.imgur.com/MJ7oNWR.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kacie Jane on August 10, 2014, 06:37:59 PM
Washington is a big fan of unisigns, and the bottom half of that sign resembles something you'd find elsewhere in the state as a reassurance marker (though the side margins are a bit wide).

But when they use a unisign for an interstate, it usually looks like a mini-BGS (green background, white direction text, and the shield).  As far as I know, the blow banner for the unisign is unique to this area, with extra points for the concurrency of course.

(Side note: this is the same region that tends to use "normal" exit tabs, as opposed to the rest of the state.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TEG24601 on August 11, 2014, 12:39:26 PM

I for one like, WSDOT's attempt at unified signs.  They prevent bent direction blades, they are likely easier to install and maintain, and ever since they dropped the SGS (Small Green Sign) format, they actually look correct to what we would be expecting, color wise.

Saw THESE on a roadtrip through Southwest Washington the other day. There are quite a few of them.

(http://i.imgur.com/MJ7oNWR.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Arkansastravelguy on August 11, 2014, 12:53:38 PM
Virginia uses unisigns in a few places. I much rather have the cutouts
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kacie Jane on August 11, 2014, 12:57:43 PM

I for one like, WSDOT's attempt at unified signs.  They prevent bent direction blades, they are likely easier to install and maintain, and ever since they dropped the SGS (Small Green Sign) format, they actually look correct to what we would be expecting, color wise.

They dropped the SGS format??  I had associated green with the Interstates and black and white with state/US routes, but I suppose now that I think about it, I may be incorrect and it's an old vs. new thing instead.  Please ignore most of my previous post then, I guess. :P
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on August 13, 2014, 04:49:26 PM
For the "ugly" category:
(http://i.imgur.com/g9gix78.png)
James River Freeway in Springfield, MO. Who thought up that color scheme for the borders???
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Billy F 1988 on August 13, 2014, 06:11:15 PM
Uh, local contractors?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on August 13, 2014, 06:52:20 PM
That wasn't the contractor. That design smacks of chamber of commerce.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 13, 2014, 06:54:06 PM
This is basically all chambers of commerce across the nation, in regards to the MUTCD:

(http://i.imgur.com/rnwF0.gif)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on August 13, 2014, 07:26:47 PM
For the "ugly" category:
(http://i.imgur.com/g9gix78.png)
James River Freeway in Springfield, MO. Who thought up that color scheme for the borders???

Don't really mind it, actually. If it's off some minor road or within a maze of parking lots...although it smacks of bidding for favoritism.

At least it adheres to some sort of design philosophy, unlike Walt Disney World's unreadable purple and red with white Futura.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 14, 2014, 03:40:09 AM
Still unsure as to the purpose of these, but WSDOT installed blue "Freeway Entrance" signs along WA-520 between the 405 and the bridge:

(http://i.imgur.com/F2ShxgC.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1 on August 14, 2014, 10:19:32 AM
Still unsure as to the purpose of these, but WSDOT installed blue "Freeway Entrance" signs along WA-520 between the 405 and the bridge:

(http://i.imgur.com/F2ShxgC.jpg)

Why are the colors reversed?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on August 14, 2014, 09:47:32 PM
Don't really mind it, actually. If it's off some minor road or within a maze of parking lots...although it smacks of bidding for favoritism.

At least it adheres to some sort of design philosophy, unlike Walt Disney World's unreadable purple and red with white Futura.

It's not, though. It's off a major freeway, and not even a local or county one—at this point, I believe it's US-60/160/MO-13.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on August 14, 2014, 10:21:00 PM
Still unsure as to the purpose of these, but WSDOT installed blue "Freeway Entrance" signs along WA-520 between the 405 and the bridge:

(http://i.imgur.com/F2ShxgC.jpg)

Why are the colors reversed?

Most "entrance"/ramp signs I've seen use that color scheme, especially in Ohio. NY (Region 10) and CA use an entrance banner that corresponds to the type of route being entered. Blue on white isn't particularly readable.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on August 14, 2014, 10:29:44 PM
Most "entrance"/ramp signs I've seen use that color scheme, especially in Ohio. NY (Region 10) and CA use an entrance banner that corresponds to the type of route being entered. Blue on white isn't particularly readable.

California and Nevada use white on green "Freeway Entrance" signs. I've never seen different wording. However, the freeway entrance sign, if used, is always accompanied below by route shields (for Nevada, the only place I know of a freeway not having freeway entrance signs is Summerlin Parkway in Las Vegas--it is not a numbered highway).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on August 14, 2014, 10:37:25 PM
Most "entrance"/ramp signs I've seen use that color scheme, especially in Ohio. NY (Region 10) and CA use an entrance banner that corresponds to the type of route being entered. Blue on white isn't particularly readable.

California and Nevada use white on green "Freeway Entrance" signs. I've never seen different wording. However, the freeway entrance sign, if used, is always accompanied below by route shields (for Nevada, the only place I know of a freeway not having freeway entrance signs is Summerlin Parkway in Las Vegas--it is not a numbered highway).

My apologies. Could have sworn that I saw a pic showing I-5 with a white on blue. Everything about that state confuses me.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1 on August 14, 2014, 10:39:18 PM
Still unsure as to the purpose of these, but WSDOT installed blue "Freeway Entrance" signs along WA-520 between the 405 and the bridge:

(http://i.imgur.com/F2ShxgC.jpg)

Why are the colors reversed?

Most "entrance"/ramp signs I've seen use that color scheme, especially in Ohio. NY (Region 10) and CA use an entrance banner that corresponds to the type of route being entered. Blue on white isn't particularly readable.

You're missing it. The trees are purple. The traffic cone is blue. The image has the reversed colors, not the signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 15, 2014, 01:06:46 AM
Still unsure as to the purpose of these, but WSDOT installed blue "Freeway Entrance" signs along WA-520 between the 405 and the bridge:

Why are the colors reversed?

Most "entrance"/ramp signs I've seen use that color scheme, especially in Ohio. NY (Region 10) and CA use an entrance banner that corresponds to the type of route being entered. Blue on white isn't particularly readable.

You're missing it. The trees are purple. The traffic cone is blue. The image has the reversed colors, not the signs.

Here, I'll zoom in on the problem:

(http://i.imgur.com/SlpBBhv.jpg)

After inspecting the WSDOT Sign Fabrication Manual (available here (http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/publications/manuals/fulltext/M55-05/Signfab.pdf)), the "Freeway Entrance" sign (E12-201) has the colors listed as "legend - white (refl)" and "background - green (refl)". I assume these signs will be tossed on final inspection, if there is even a thing.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Billy F 1988 on August 15, 2014, 01:48:57 AM
Even though this is perceived to be a pile of fail because of the color, I'd actually like that better than green because it closely identifies with the interstate than green does. That's just me thinking outside of the MUTCD's tightening box.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 15, 2014, 03:06:17 AM
Even though this is perceived to be a pile of fail because of the color, I'd actually like that better than green because it closely identifies with the interstate than green does. That's just me thinking outside of the MUTCD's tightening box.

I like your thinking, but this sign is used for a state route, not an interstate (not that you were directly implying that it was).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on August 16, 2014, 01:11:36 AM
Even though this is perceived to be a pile of fail because of the color, I'd actually like that better than green because it closely identifies with the interstate than green does. That's just me thinking outside of the MUTCD's tightening box.
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The sign is not meant to align to a specific route type, but is more for guidance of the motorist--hence the green color. "Freeway entrance" is not a motorist service (like food or gas), nor a driver information sign (like highway radio or travel times) that would normally be on blue.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on August 17, 2014, 07:09:49 PM
Plainfield, IL.  Eastbound on IL-126.

(http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz298/midamcrossrds/100_4282_zpsfbd0b843.jpg) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4282_zpsfbd0b843.jpg.html)

Make of it what you will.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on August 18, 2014, 03:22:56 PM
Pardon the grainy GSV, but I saw this unique sign (http://goo.gl/maps/pbG1K) at the intersection of Podunk & Shore Roads in East Brookfield, MA.

Interesting style house number/address shield (http://goo.gl/maps/kjjlh) along Franklin St. (MA 181) in Bondsville, MA.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 6a on August 18, 2014, 07:35:10 PM
The sign is backlit when active

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/08/18/1d8279a83cb8673624ca36445b11b9c6.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on August 29, 2014, 05:56:01 PM
Different, Manteno, Illinois:

(http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz298/midamcrossrds/100_4546_zps2a7069cc.jpg) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4546_zps2a7069cc.jpg.html)

(http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz298/midamcrossrds/100_4547_zps7acf1a56.jpg) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4547_zps7acf1a56.jpg.html)

(http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz298/midamcrossrds/100_4550_zpsa9fe8f72.jpg) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4550_zpsa9fe8f72.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on August 29, 2014, 06:11:11 PM
Different, Manteno, Illinois:

(http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz298/midamcrossrds/100_4546_zps2a7069cc.jpg) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4546_zps2a7069cc.jpg.html)

Is "C.H. 9" supposed to be County Highway 9, or...?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: adventurernumber1 on August 29, 2014, 06:34:07 PM
Different, Manteno, Illinois:

(http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz298/midamcrossrds/100_4546_zps2a7069cc.jpg) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4546_zps2a7069cc.jpg.html)

Is "C.H. 9" supposed to be County Highway 9, or...?

Probably, but I don't see why they don't just put a county highway shield on the sign  :confused:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on August 29, 2014, 07:34:12 PM
"Hey Johnny...we need a Route 611 South sign made up."

"Whatever you say boss!"

(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd144/roadnut/91A4EF60-CDEB-4077-814E-8A7ABF87B6E5.jpg) (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/roadnut/media/91A4EF60-CDEB-4077-814E-8A7ABF87B6E5.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on September 02, 2014, 10:51:39 PM
Here's one in Huntsville:
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5588/14937511277_d5bd0b678b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oKYDFT)
Custom One Way Sign? (https://flic.kr/p/oKYDFT) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

I bet a lot of y'all don't see this on a regular basis:
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3838/14937518228_ab6da19ca9.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oKYFKJ)
Welcome To Alabama (https://flic.kr/p/oKYFKJ) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

The size of the numbers on this speed limit sign seems a bit small:
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3870/15124089945_3cbfd81c16.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/p3sV2t)
Weird Speed Limit 35 Sign (https://flic.kr/p/p3sV2t) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: sammi on September 02, 2014, 11:11:53 PM
Similar to the last sign, there's a speed limit sign on eastbound Highway 7 (York RR 7, Old ON 7) at Helen St in Vaughan that's too big but with the right sized numbers, resulting in a similar amount of space around the '60'. If Street View had an updated image, I'd post it here.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on September 03, 2014, 12:10:25 AM
Continuing the bad speed limit signs, this was (unfortunately) the standard (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.330315,-73.699388,3a,52.9y,149.08h,77.09t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1snSaG4tnHCzO1t9B8A_vzog!2e0) on town-maintained roads in Queensbury, NY until 10-15 years ago. Until around then, the town also used tiny, nonreflective street name blades (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.358671,-73.657741,3a,87.9y,250.76h,87.38t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sp2jqwhgkxnt7MtCXssB7CA!2e0) that carried over to county roads. Those became larger and more legible when they went retroreflective. Somewhat related, all signs in the second link except for the name blades are county installs showing how Warren County likes using Z-bars.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: relaxok on September 03, 2014, 01:07:50 AM
Accidentally posted this in Best Of..  has anybody ever seen another of these signs?!  Almost every draw bridge I've seen has a normal traffic light with a typical yellow warning sign saying 'DRAW BRIDGE AHEAD' in the vicinity.

(http://bh.polpo.org/drawbridgesign.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on September 03, 2014, 05:47:18 AM
Accidentally posted this in Best Of..  has anybody ever seen another of these signs?!  Almost every draw bridge I've seen has a normal traffic light with a typical yellow warning sign saying 'DRAW BRIDGE AHEAD' in the vicinity.

(http://bh.polpo.org/drawbridgesign.png)

In the background, there appears to be a red/white gate arm. To me, that legitimizes the use of these rail signals (and really, the traffic concept is a similar application here). MUTCD allows traffic signals and/or gates/flashers.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on September 03, 2014, 05:18:59 PM
I bet a lot of y'all don't see this on a regular basis:
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3838/14937518228_ab6da19ca9.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oKYFKJ)
Welcome To Alabama (https://flic.kr/p/oKYFKJ) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

I've seen a few of these around Huntsville (and obviously, a few other places around the country):

(http://www.formulanone.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/DuckCrossing.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on September 03, 2014, 06:04:43 PM
I've seen a different design (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.120654,-77.590822,3a,75y,196.57h,66.32t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1svn6v3bHAEsRhoGziZ61eLQ!2e0) near where I grew up.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: fungus on September 04, 2014, 02:14:30 PM
"Caution - Limited Sight" in Santa Cruz, CA (hat tip to Richard Masoner - )

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Buyp41ICcAA1kkR.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 04, 2014, 02:26:49 PM
"Caution - Limited Sight" in Santa Cruz, CA (hat tip to Richard Masoner - )

Great sign. Halfway to fully symbolic, which is my own personal goal for warning signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on September 04, 2014, 02:37:13 PM
You can find signs like this on the Dulles Greenway in Virginia. A local woman spent $3,000 to have four of them manufactured and posted along the highway after she was unable to rescue a turtle crossing the road from being squashed.

(http://www.loudounwildlife.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/larue-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on September 07, 2014, 08:41:24 AM
Accidentally posted this in Best Of..  has anybody ever seen another of these signs?!  Almost every draw bridge I've seen has a normal traffic light with a typical yellow warning sign saying 'DRAW BRIDGE AHEAD' in the vicinity.



I like this.  I agree that since railroads and drawbridges have the same effect on traffic, they should have similar traffic control.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 6a on September 07, 2014, 02:01:17 PM

Accidentally posted this in Best Of..  has anybody ever seen another of these signs?!  Almost every draw bridge I've seen has a normal traffic light with a typical yellow warning sign saying 'DRAW BRIDGE AHEAD' in the vicinity.



I like this.  I agree that since railroads and drawbridges have the same effect on traffic, they should have similar traffic control.

How about jets? :bigass:

(https://farm7.staticflickr.com/6223/6330490782_00a62e0e88_z.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/six-a/6330490782/)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 07, 2014, 02:22:59 PM
Accidentally posted this in Best Of..  has anybody ever seen another of these signs?!  Almost every draw bridge I've seen has a normal traffic light with a typical yellow warning sign saying 'DRAW BRIDGE AHEAD' in the vicinity.

I like this.  I agree that since railroads and drawbridges have the same effect on traffic, they should have similar traffic control.

How about jets? :bigass:

https://farm7.staticflickr.com/6223/6330490782_00a62e0e88_z.jpg

That reminds me of something out of Russia.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on September 07, 2014, 04:31:38 PM
(https://farm7.staticflickr.com/6223/6330490782_00a62e0e88_z.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/six-a/6330490782/)


That's way too verbose.  STOP WHEN FLASHING should be the most conspicuous thing, possibly in red & white, then JET BLAST AREA in black on yellow to explain why.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: RG407 on September 07, 2014, 11:25:24 PM

I've seen a few of these around Huntsville (and obviously, a few other places around the country):

(http://www.formulanone.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/DuckCrossing.jpg)

I've seen plenty with just a single duck, but never with ducklings.  It's very cute!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on September 08, 2014, 05:44:46 PM
In the same vein: this sign in Rayne, LA.

(http://img.groundspeak.com/waymarking/display/7f2ba660-1401-49f4-8ecd-12c380432bc8.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 08, 2014, 06:02:58 PM
I'm getting tired of all these variations...how about a standard sign?

(http://i.imgur.com/II323kf.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on September 08, 2014, 06:36:49 PM
(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd144/roadnut/3470a030-e869-46e3-a1db-43b98659bf3f.jpg) (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/roadnut/media/3470a030-e869-46e3-a1db-43b98659bf3f.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Billy F 1988 on September 08, 2014, 06:55:31 PM
I'm getting tired of all these variations...how about a standard sign?

(http://i.imgur.com/II323kf.png)

And thus, the heretic has spoken.  :nod:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on September 10, 2014, 03:22:55 PM
Spotted this recently on US-50 east of Aldie, Virginia, near the truck scales. Sign makes eminent sense, but I've never seen one like this before. I found myself wondering whether, if you had to change direction to reach the hospital, it might make sense to put the "H" to the appropriate side of the sign to underscore where the arrowhead is, given that it's rather smaller than most arrows.

(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c378/1995hoo/Road%20sign%20pictures/Hospitalroundabout_zpsbecf853e.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on September 10, 2014, 06:02:35 PM
I think that needs to be just a simple through-roundabout arrow, not a full roundabout diagram with an arrowhead on one exit.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 10, 2014, 09:06:23 PM
I don't mind the initial sign, but it seems awfully small...here's my alternative:

(http://i.imgur.com/k9dhVYM.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wisvishr0 on September 10, 2014, 09:47:10 PM
I don't mind the initial sign, but it seems awfully small...here's my alternative:

Very pretty! I love it!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Revive 755 on September 10, 2014, 09:59:31 PM
Not sure this variant on the "freeway entrance" sign has been posted before:

WI 74 at WI 190 (https://www.google.com/maps?q=brookfield,+wi&hl=en&ll=43.082806,-88.204679&spn=0.008275,0.013797&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=36.726391,56.513672&hnear=Brookfield,+Waukesha+County,+Wisconsin&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=43.084546,-88.20545&panoid=N2rmLIvZhl3eOHa1qb7fCA&cbp=12,99.03,,2,2.34)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on September 11, 2014, 06:26:55 AM
I don't mind the initial sign, but it seems awfully small...here's my alternative:

(http://i.imgur.com/k9dhVYM.png)

It still doesn't make it clear which way the hospital is...especially for those that are already concerned about a love one and trying to get to the hospital, and may easily be confused.  Just use a design with a 'thru' arrow.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wisvishr0 on September 11, 2014, 07:04:53 AM
I don't mind the initial sign, but it seems awfully small...here's my alternative:

(http://i.imgur.com/k9dhVYM.png)

It still doesn't make it clear which way the hospital is...especially for those that are already concerned about a love one and trying to get to the hospital, and may easily be confused.  Just use a design with a 'thru' arrow.
I believe it's a UK thing to put destinations on roundabouts like that, whereas here in the US, we're used to the signmakers making it totally unambiguous. Yeah,  I wouldn't post that sign here, but it's nonetheless pretty. It would be clear in the UK.

I'm sorry but I'm in love with UK road signs in general. They're simple and consistent, two of my favorite things.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on September 11, 2014, 09:02:56 AM
I don't mind the initial sign, but it seems awfully small...here's my alternative:

(http://i.imgur.com/k9dhVYM.png)

I like it (but then, I like British signs), but I think the diagram ought to be bigger because the text kind of swamps it to the point where some people would focus more on the words than on their position relative to the roundabout.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on September 11, 2014, 10:54:45 AM
It still doesn't make it clear which way the hospital is...especially for those that are already concerned about a love one and trying to get to the hospital, and may easily be confused.  Just use a design with a 'thru' arrow.

I think how New Jersey signs it close to major hospitals is how I would go with it here:

(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag88/Zeffyboy/Signs/StoneSpring-EmergencyCtr-Assembly-f_zps9f6eba1b.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: english si on September 11, 2014, 11:42:22 AM
I believe it's a UK thing to put destinations on roundabouts like that, whereas here in the US, we're used to the signmakers making it totally unambiguous.
We in the UK would view that as totally unambiguous...

Though we'd also go an extra step and not have arrows on arms without destinations listed - eg here (https://maps.google.com/?ll=51.509958,0.070961&spn=0.0123,0.033023&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=51.509749,0.070958&panoid=ft6Ylbw3M0vCbKSj6E0cHw&cbp=12,167.6,,1,-1.32) where the first sign with the major destinations has two stubs, but the second sign with the local destinations has one, and an extra arrow, as that local road has a local destination.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on September 11, 2014, 12:01:16 PM
It still doesn't make it clear which way the hospital is...especially for those that are already concerned about a love one and trying to get to the hospital, and may easily be confused.  Just use a design with a 'thru' arrow.

I think how New Jersey signs it close to major hospitals is how I would go with it here:

[image omitted]


I think the thought process is some people might not understand a straight-ahead arrow in the context of a roundabout, although the particular roundabout referred to by the sign I posted does have the second exit essentially straight across on the far side. Funny thing is, though, the initial guide sign for the roundabout doesn't list destinations, just route numbers (Street View here: http://goo.gl/maps/fJ9DM ) and the second sign closer to the roundabout that does give destinations just uses traditional arrows instead of the roundabout diagram (Street View here: http://goo.gl/maps/W3iSU ). The second sign could have the blue hospital "H" on the same line as "Washington." I'd have to dig through my deleted videos to verify if this is still the case, but as of the time the Street View car went through there was no "H" sign anywhere at or on the roundabout (nor at either of the other two roundabouts you encounter within the next mile or two after exiting the first one).

Edited to add: I restored the deleted videos. There are still no "H" signs at or on any of the three roundabouts on US-50; we didn't go through the one further south on US-15 on this trip, but I assume it's the same. (Having an "H" sign at the correct exit with a conventional diagonal arrow seems like it'd make sense.) There are two more of the sorts of signs I posted above in advance of the second and third roundabouts, though. I'd love to see how they configured the sign on northbound US-15 approaching the fourth roundabout, but I won't be using that road anytime soon to go check.

Incidentally, the following sign appears just before the third roundabout ("third" as you head east on US-50). It kind of amuses me because the guide sign approaching that roundabout only shows two exits, one to continue on Route 50 and the other to make a left turn onto Watson Road. The exit shown on this sign doesn't appear at all on the advance guide sign. It all kind of makes me think VDOT is still figuring out roundabout signage. They'd do better just to send someone to the UK for a while, though of course some adaptations would be needed to conform to US requirements.

(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c378/1995hoo/Road%20sign%20pictures/Churchroundabout_zps407ef0bf.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on September 11, 2014, 01:00:58 PM
Roundabouts have their own arrow designs here:
(http://www.nysroads.com/images/gallery/NY/ny40/100_9954-s.JPG)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on September 11, 2014, 01:03:09 PM
Never seen that before. Neat idea. Seems plenty clear to me. What do they do for the "straight-thru" movement?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on September 11, 2014, 01:21:11 PM
It varies by location (I get the feeling that NYSDOT roundabout standards are recent).  I'm afraid I don't have any pictures, and the one I know has one has outdated street view, so here's the symbol on the pavement.

Right is just a normal right arrow (mostly... see below) everywhere.

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6486923,-73.8482775,3a,75y,11.64h,72.87t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sL9ozJlgIwaO-1Ljye07hZA!2e0

Also note the erroneously orange sign:
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.3091743,-73.6436849,3a,75y,327.57h,62.3t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1som98W52_W6pdm7KqVwbZ3g!2e0
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on September 11, 2014, 02:01:12 PM
I would just get rid of the roundabout. Multiple problems solved!  :-D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on September 11, 2014, 04:08:09 PM
It's NYSDOT. Always a fish-hook (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7679323,-78.6293521,3a,75y,200.47h,78.46t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1stnOSv3KkfR1FNdIlx4aveg!2e0).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on September 11, 2014, 04:11:02 PM
I would just get rid of the roundabout. Multiple problems solved!  :-D

The ones in my photos have made travel through that area (Gilbert's Corner, Virginia) substantially faster than it used to be when there was just a crossroads with a traffic light. There was the usual bleating and squawking from local residents when VDOT announced the plan to replace the light with a system of four roundabouts (two of those connect to a road providing a bypass around the roundabout located where the light used to be), but also as usual, everyone found it's much more efficient than the stupid light ever was.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: spooky on September 11, 2014, 05:24:31 PM
It's NYSDOT. Always a fish-hook (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7679323,-78.6293521,3a,75y,200.47h,78.46t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1stnOSv3KkfR1FNdIlx4aveg!2e0).

I really like the fish-hook arrows in place of the traditional left/through/right arrows. I believe the MUTCD allows both for directional signage in advance of a roundabout. Using those same arrows on an arrow plaque like in the hospital signage shown above seems natural.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on September 11, 2014, 05:27:17 PM
Has anyone ever posted pictures of signs on the Merritt Parkway in Connecticut here?

(http://i.imgur.com/mXBpxyO.png)

Interesting how they designed the borders, but that font is pretty barf.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MillTheRoadgeek on September 11, 2014, 07:40:59 PM
Has anyone ever posted pictures of signs on the Merritt Parkway in Connecticut here?

(http://i.imgur.com/mXBpxyO.png)

Interesting how they designed the borders, but that font is pretty barf.
The font looks like Walmart's old 2000s font, eh? Oh, and I also noticed a little cut in the bottom left corner. Wow, was this put in by a contractor that makes weird variations on signs, or is it by a major commercial who is still attempting to give a damn about MUTCD standards? :P (Remember that post from a bit ago...)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 11, 2014, 10:35:53 PM
Increasingly British-Canadian, this version...

(http://i.imgur.com/EyY4f6O.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on September 12, 2014, 12:45:46 PM
Has anyone ever posted pictures of signs on the Merritt Parkway in Connecticut here?

(http://i.imgur.com/mXBpxyO.png)

Interesting how they designed the borders, but that font is pretty barf.
The font looks like Walmart's old 2000s font, eh? Oh, and I also noticed a little cut in the bottom left corner. Wow, was this put in by a contractor that makes weird variations on signs, or is it by a major commercial who is still attempting to give a damn about MUTCD standards? :P (Remember that post from a bit ago...)
It's specifically designed to emulate the original wooden signs as much as possible while still paying lip service to the MUTCD.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wisvishr0 on September 12, 2014, 08:41:17 PM
Increasingly British-Canadian, this version...

(http://i.imgur.com/EyY4f6O.png)
That's awesome.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Pete from Boston on September 12, 2014, 10:12:01 PM

Has anyone ever posted pictures of signs on the Merritt Parkway in Connecticut here?

(http://i.imgur.com/mXBpxyO.png)

Interesting how they designed the borders, but that font is pretty barf.
The font looks like Walmart's old 2000s font, eh? Oh, and I also noticed a little cut in the bottom left corner. Wow, was this put in by a contractor that makes weird variations on signs, or is it by a major commercial who is still attempting to give a damn about MUTCD standards? :P (Remember that post from a bit ago...)
It's specifically designed to emulate the original wooden signs as much as possible while still paying lip service to the MUTCD.

I always liked them.  The Merritt is an inherently unreasonable road on so many levels (this is not a complaint) that this scheme just follows the pattern.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on September 13, 2014, 07:33:35 PM
World's largest BGS for one lane?
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3850/15043009557_e359b1bca0.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oVimDK)Huge Sign (https://flic.kr/p/oVimDK) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Billy F 1988 on September 13, 2014, 09:52:56 PM
World's largest BGS for one lane?
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3850/15043009557_e359b1bca0.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oVimDK)Huge Sign (https://flic.kr/p/oVimDK) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

I'd shutter to think what would happen if that big sign got blown off and crushed an oncoming car.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on September 13, 2014, 10:03:27 PM
Why couldn't the "TO EAST" be to the left of the US 72 marker, instead of on top? Would have saved money on the sign panel.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on September 18, 2014, 08:11:33 PM
Found this today in a Home Depot parking lot:
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5579/15096070330_c2d4966318.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oZZiLE)
Small Stop Sign (https://flic.kr/p/oZZiLE) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3857/15282377882_05c2d2cac8.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/phsbvQ)
Small Stop Sign (https://flic.kr/p/phsbvQ) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: xcellntbuy on September 18, 2014, 08:41:27 PM
Looks like a painted-over or vinyl-covered license plate.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on September 19, 2014, 12:10:27 AM
Chicago.

(http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz298/midamcrossrds/100_4596_zpsd2644056.jpg) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4596_zpsd2644056.jpg.html)

(http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz298/midamcrossrds/100_4573_zps086bf4c1.jpg) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4573_zps086bf4c1.jpg.html)

(http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz298/midamcrossrds/100_4571_zpsd2c3a56b.jpg) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4571_zpsd2c3a56b.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 19, 2014, 08:04:30 PM
I went back to a sign(s) that I posted on this thread a while back...blue "freeway entrance" signs. As it turns out, all of the signs were inspected and approved. I still don't understand wtf is going on.

(http://i.imgur.com/2pKuWkG.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on September 19, 2014, 10:01:20 PM
I don't understand why there's all this extra space on this sign:
https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=34.719183,-86.627766&spn=0.000002,0.001032&t=h&z=21&layer=c&cbll=34.719183,-86.627766&panoid=EiEbQ8bR9ou3HR701HumUA&cbp=12,185.21,,2,-13.14
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on September 20, 2014, 12:07:31 AM
I don't understand why there's all this extra space on this sign:
https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=34.719183,-86.627766&spn=0.000002,0.001032&t=h&z=21&layer=c&cbll=34.719183,-86.627766&panoid=EiEbQ8bR9ou3HR701HumUA&cbp=12,185.21,,2,-13.14

And on the sign to the left, the cardinal direction / shields don't align.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kurumi on September 20, 2014, 01:14:19 AM
World's largest BGS for one lane?
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3850/15043009557_e359b1bca0.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oVimDK)Huge Sign (https://flic.kr/p/oVimDK) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

I CalTrans'ed it for you:

(http://i.imgur.com/oIXduQn.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on September 20, 2014, 01:27:44 AM
Chicago.

(http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz298/midamcrossrds/100_4596_zpsd2644056.jpg) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4596_zpsd2644056.jpg.html)

(http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz298/midamcrossrds/100_4573_zps086bf4c1.jpg) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4573_zps086bf4c1.jpg.html)


Ok, I'll bite. What's wrong with the signage?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on September 20, 2014, 01:56:54 AM
probably posted already but I don't give a fuck
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2688/4090793555_667282ed59_z.jpg?zz=1) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/planesandbirds/4090793555/)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on September 20, 2014, 06:22:16 AM
Chicago.


Ok, I'll bite. What's wrong with the signage?

Nothing.  This is the unique, odd, or interesting thread.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on September 20, 2014, 10:47:36 AM
I don't understand why there's all this extra space on this sign:
https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=34.719183,-86.627766&spn=0.000002,0.001032&t=h&z=21&layer=c&cbll=34.719183,-86.627766&panoid=EiEbQ8bR9ou3HR701HumUA&cbp=12,185.21,,2,-13.14

And on the sign to the left, the cardinal direction / shields don't align.
Apparently, when the signs were put up, they accidentally put an AL 53 shield on the Jordan Lane sign (because the sign shop didn't know where AL 53 went) and mis-signed I-565 as North/South. They later fixed the signage an removed all instances of AL 20 when it was truncated to just past I-65. They moved the AL 53 shield over to where the AL 20 shield was.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on September 20, 2014, 11:52:29 AM
Chicago.


Ok, I'll bite. What's wrong with the signage?

Nothing.  This is the unique, odd, or interesting thread.
They look perfectly normal to me.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on September 20, 2014, 12:05:35 PM
Chicago.


Ok, I'll bite. What's wrong with the signage?

Nothing.  This is the unique, odd, or interesting thread.
They look perfectly normal to me.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Alex4897 on September 20, 2014, 05:54:37 PM
Chicago.


Ok, I'll bite. What's wrong with the signage?

Nothing.  This is the unique, odd, or interesting thread.
They look perfectly normal to me.

Agreed.
Yea I don't get it, please explain.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MillTheRoadgeek on September 20, 2014, 08:05:37 PM
It's too blurry on GSV (October 2008, I guess), and I can't snap a picture of this, but at the intersection of Dumfries Road (VA 234) and Independent Hill Drive, there is a contradictory "Way" hidden behind a cover-thing (I don't know what it is). Anyone have any info on this, or am I wrong?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on September 26, 2014, 11:15:39 AM
Vine Street Expressway (before turning onto 6th Street) in Philadelphia:

(http://i.imgur.com/N8Ejvnz.png)
From GMSV

Don't see many 2di shields with a 3di number in it anymore.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on September 26, 2014, 11:32:23 AM
Don't see many 2di shields with a 3di number in it anymore.
Here's a nicer example (https://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Camden,+NJ&aq=0&oq=camde&sll=39.9425,-75.115366&sspn=0.005914,0.009409&vpsrc=6&t=h&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Camden,+Camden+County,+New+Jersey&ll=39.94409,-75.119566&spn=0.000012,0.004705&z=18&layer=c&cbll=39.944093,-75.119731&panoid=a3g-4gTeMJpbc2IWBMmekA&cbp=12,117.74,,0,7.08) in Camden, NJ at the intersection of Federal St. & Broadway (CR 537 & 551 respectively).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on September 29, 2014, 12:01:54 AM
This may not look unique or interesting to most of you, but since I live in Canada, seeing a standard (not metric, there are some of those on the Sault Ste Marie International bridge) modern US speed limit sign is quite unique. They even added a km/h sign under it (which is not common place here). I'm guessing when people see the sign, they think mph right away.

Google Streetview shot in Selkirk Manitoba.

(http://i.imgur.com/mvaJJF6.jpg)

GMSV: http://goo.gl/maps/DGox8
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kacie Jane on September 29, 2014, 01:10:01 AM
Vine Street Expressway (before turning onto 6th Street) in Philadelphia:

(http://i.imgur.com/N8Ejvnz.png)
From GMSV

Don't see many 2di shields with a 3di number in it anymore.

The 2di shield for a 3di number isn't that unusual to me; I see ones for 405 out here fairly often.  The green unisign with white outline banner and arrow "plates" however, now that's unusual.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on September 29, 2014, 01:12:50 AM
It's too blurry on GSV (October 2008, I guess), and I can't snap a picture of this, but at the intersection of Dumfries Road (VA 234) and Independent Hill Drive, there is a contradictory "Way" hidden behind a cover-thing (I don't know what it is). Anyone have any info on this, or am I wrong?

Probably a body-bagged construction sign. Get in the TARDIS if you want to check it out.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: BamaZeus on September 29, 2014, 12:51:54 PM
This may not look unique or interesting to most of you, but since I live in Canada, seeing a standard (not metric, there are some of those on the Sault Ste Marie International bridge) modern US speed limit sign is quite unique. They even added a km/h sign under it (which is not common place here). I'm guessing when people see the sign, they think mph right away.

Google Streetview shot in Selkirk Manitoba.

(http://i.imgur.com/mvaJJF6.jpg)

GMSV: http://goo.gl/maps/DGox8

I'm more amused with the "no golfing" sign right behind it.  It seems like a strange problem to cause a regulatory sign to be erected.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on September 29, 2014, 01:22:54 PM
No idea where to put this, but this is pretty ugly looking...

(http://i.imgur.com/2hb2xtH.png)

I wonder what size the '40' is. This shields look to be 48" tall, so I'm guessing that it's around 24", which looks ugly as hell. The numbers are practically bleeding into the border.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 29, 2014, 05:21:33 PM
A bit of Aussie influence in Honolulu:

[Street View] (http://goo.gl/XuAmTT)

(http://i.imgur.com/55ZylFl.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on September 29, 2014, 08:18:09 PM
No idea where to put this, but this is pretty ugly looking...

(http://i.imgur.com/2hb2xtH.png)

I wonder what size the '40' is. This shields look to be 48" tall, so I'm guessing that it's around 24", which looks ugly as hell. The numbers are practically bleeding into the border.

Also note the lack of a margin between the legend and the border. Also, it's always weird to see "Oklahoma City" spelled out on a sign, since most of the time it's only used as a control city inside of Oklahoma, which consistently abbreviates it as "Okla. City".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bassoon1986 on October 01, 2014, 02:57:32 PM
No idea where to put this, but this is pretty ugly looking...

(http://i.imgur.com/2hb2xtH.png)

I wonder what size the '40' is. This shields look to be 48" tall, so I'm guessing that it's around 24", which looks ugly as hell. The numbers are practically bleeding into the border.

Also note the lack of a margin between the legend and the border. Also, it's always weird to see "Oklahoma City" spelled out on a sign, since most of the time it's only used as a control city inside of Oklahoma, which consistently abbreviates it as "Okla. City".

It's also used and spelled out in each of the surrounding states, right? I know I remember seeing Oklahoma City at the convergence of 35W and 35E when I lived in north Texas. Amarillo and Wichita probably have it too.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on October 04, 2014, 08:10:50 AM
Found this on the Pennsylvania Turnpike.  Only place I've ever seen one of them.

(http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz298/midamcrossrds/100_4760_zps6f5b6c8e.jpg) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4760_zps6f5b6c8e.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on October 04, 2014, 08:14:33 AM
It's a shame the symbols are so small they're unreadable. One would have to know what the symbol looks like at high speed to understand it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on October 04, 2014, 08:19:58 AM
It's a shame the symbols are so small they're unreadable. One would have to know what the symbol looks like at high speed to understand it.

Most HazMat certified people do.  I could read them, but I've been trained in it.  However, the photo came out a bit blurrier than I wanted.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tom958 on October 05, 2014, 08:10:46 AM
Crossposted from the Georgia forum (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=204.325):

Erected last week, just beyond this fine APL sign...
(http://i.imgur.com/Cv2ZcNm.jpg)


...is this. It's located right where the optional lane actually splits, i.e. is 24+ feet wide. So, instead one one big splitting arrow as on the previous sign, there are two big non-splitting ones. It extends the logic of using two black-on-yellow arrows to indicate one compulsory and one optional exit lanes, which I already freakin' hate. And I hate this, too, though I'd be OK with it if the optional lane arrow didn't have an exit only legend:
(http://i.imgur.com/PoT137I.jpg)


Here's the previous scheme (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.7983259,-84.3960336,3a,37.5y,141.37h,90.85t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sXSgF2Y1LRLqjFRmpx8obWA!2e0), which had issues of its own. In particular, there's the two arrows on the pullthrough when there are actually three lanes for I-75 there. It may be that the third lane wasn't indicated because it ends a half mile or so downstream.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on October 05, 2014, 02:28:03 PM
This traffic light on US 9 in Hudson, NY.  Unfortunately my photo is blurry due to the rain, but the sign says "left only on green ball".
(http://www.nysroads.com/images/gallery/NY/us9/101_0018-s.JPG)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Billy F 1988 on October 05, 2014, 03:46:24 PM
Uh, oh! Big problem. If that is supposed to be an RYG-arrow phase, then why is the first one pointing up and the other pointing to the right? Very Alanland-ish and this very much pays homage to the once-mighty Alanland.

All Alanland aside, the bonehead who put this up is gonna get an earful from someone because this kind of setup is asking for an accident waiting to happen at any second. You could have been one of the unfortunate people having your car wiped out in the very lane that is SUPPOSED TO BE left-on-green-arrow, not STRAIGHT THRU OR RIGHT TURN on LEFT GREEN ARROW.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on October 05, 2014, 04:18:48 PM
Uh, oh! Big problem. If that is supposed to be an RYG-arrow phase, then why is the first one pointing up and the other pointing to the right? Very Alanland-ish and this very much pays homage to the once-mighty Alanland.

All Alanland aside, the bonehead who put this up is gonna get an earful from someone because this kind of setup is asking for an accident waiting to happen at any second. You could have been one of the unfortunate people having your car wiped out in the very lane that is SUPPOSED TO BE left-on-green-arrow, not STRAIGHT THRU OR RIGHT TURN on LEFT GREEN ARROW.

The 4-section with straight and right arrows is quite common when a left turn is prohibited at an intersection and a protected right is provided with the through movement. New York has a lot of them and I've seen them elsewhere. The problem is that this is a 5 section signal with a red and straight green lit concurrently.

If this is the signal I think it is (east end of US 9/NY 23B concurrency), there is a dedicated left turn lane, so they could just install a dedicated face for the turn movement. Issue is that this section is locally-maintained.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: xcellntbuy on October 05, 2014, 07:54:09 PM
This traffic light on US 9 in Hudson, NY.  Unfortunately my photo is blurry due to the rain, but the sign says "left only on green ball".
(http://www.nysroads.com/images/gallery/NY/us9/101_0018-s.JPG)
I see that the traffic light has been moved.  The telephone pole on the immediate left is where that traffic light was affixed for decades, and often a little cockeyed to the right.  Many, many years ago it used to be a 6-signal light with a very old white letter pedestrian signal between the green ball and the two arrows.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on October 06, 2014, 12:41:54 PM
That is indeed the end of the US 9/NY 23B concurrency.  This would be one place where a FYA would be useful.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on October 06, 2014, 12:53:08 PM
I'm a little confused here...

(On KY 34 in Mitchellsburg (Boyle County))

(http://i1028.photobucket.com/albums/y348/hbelkins/IMG_9722_zps642c0070.jpg) (http://s1028.photobucket.com/user/hbelkins/media/IMG_9722_zps642c0070.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on October 06, 2014, 01:11:01 PM
Uh, oh! Big problem. If that is supposed to be an RYG-arrow phase, then why is the first one pointing up and the other pointing to the right? Very Alanland-ish and this very much pays homage to the once-mighty Alanland.

All Alanland aside, the bonehead who put this up is gonna get an earful from someone because this kind of setup is asking for an accident waiting to happen at any second. You could have been one of the unfortunate people having your car wiped out in the very lane that is SUPPOSED TO BE left-on-green-arrow, not STRAIGHT THRU OR RIGHT TURN on LEFT GREEN ARROW.

The 4-section with straight and right arrows is quite common when a left turn is prohibited at an intersection and a protected right is provided with the through movement. New York has a lot of them and I've seen them elsewhere. The problem is that this is a 5 section signal with a red and straight green lit concurrently.
Many years ago there were 4-section signal heads RY^> along MA 1A/The Lynnway in Lynn, MA that would have one phase where all but the Y would be lit concurrently.  The red was lit because there was another 4-signal head (RY^<) facing ths same direction but located at the left-turn lane that would only have the R & ^ concurrently lit.  The concurrent red lit with the green ^ & > arrows meant that left turn movements from MA 1A North were stopped.  The signal in question was replaced with a more simplified arrangement in 1988-1989 when the Lynnway was overhauled.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on October 06, 2014, 01:24:12 PM
Passed this very ugly "Keep Right" sign on Friday morning (as the time stamp indicates) on Fair Lakes Parkway at its interchange with the Fairfax County Parkway (VA-286).

(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c378/1995hoo/Road%20sign%20pictures/Uglykeeprightsign_zps4d801dbc.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on October 06, 2014, 02:06:10 PM
No idea where to put this... so...

(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag88/Zeffyboy/STATELAW_YieldMissing_zps8bd12914.jpg)'

I'm guessing at one point the word YIELD was visible before the 'TO'.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on October 06, 2014, 02:10:09 PM
No idea where to put this... so...

(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag88/Zeffyboy/STATELAW_YieldMissing_zps8bd12914.jpg)'

I'm guessing at one point the world YIELD was visible before the 'TO'.

Could be "GIVE FINGER"  :-D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 09, 2014, 04:43:19 PM
Saw this today on East Lake Sammamish Parkway, about thirty miles east of Seattle...does this sign use the British Transport typeface?

According to Street View (http://goo.gl/3YghOx), the sign has been installed for over six years now.

(http://i.imgur.com/qSIqQHJ.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: relaxok on October 09, 2014, 06:12:49 PM
Check this out -- recently went up here (Petaluma, CA) after a terrible accident at this intersection.  First I've seen..

(http://bh.polpo.org/yellow_sign.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on October 10, 2014, 09:53:15 AM
Found this on the Pennsylvania Turnpike.  Only place I've ever seen one of them.

(http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz298/midamcrossrds/100_4760_zps6f5b6c8e.jpg) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4760_zps6f5b6c8e.jpg.html)
It's a shame the symbols are so small they're unreadable. One would have to know what the symbol looks like at high speed to understand it.
That particular sign in the photo appears to located at the beginning of an exit ramp (Lehigh Valley Exit of I-476 Northbound) so one taking this exit is/should be slowing down anyway.  IIRC that there's a similar advance-notice sign posted posted prior to the exit... at least there should be one.

Personally, this is one case where an overhead gantry-mounted BGS' (for the exit & thru-traffic) and a supplemental HAZMAT route (for the exit) and NO HAZMAT (for thru-traffic) signs are more than warranted.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on October 10, 2014, 01:44:18 PM
Found this on the Pennsylvania Turnpike.  Only place I've ever seen one of them.

(http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz298/midamcrossrds/100_4760_zps6f5b6c8e.jpg) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4760_zps6f5b6c8e.jpg.html)
It's a shame the symbols are so small they're unreadable. One would have to know what the symbol looks like at high speed to understand it.
That particular sign in the photo appears to located at the beginning of an exit ramp (Lehigh Valley Exit of I-476 Northbound) so one taking this exit is/should be slowing down anyway.  IIRC that there's a similar advance-notice sign posted posted prior to the exit... at least there should be one.

Personally, this is one case where an overhead gantry-mounted BGS' (for the exit & thru-traffic) and a supplemental HAZMAT route (for the exit) and NO HAZMAT (for thru-traffic) signs are more than warranted.

Nope, it's just before the Allegheny Mountain Tunnel on the original Turnpike.  I never took I-476.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on October 10, 2014, 04:33:53 PM
Nope, it's just before the Allegheny Mountain Tunnel on the original Turnpike.  I never took I-476.
Fair enough, but there's similar signage at the fore-mentioned Northeast Extension (I-476) at the Lehigh Valley interchange (Exit 56 for US 22/I-78/PA 309) since it's the last northbound exit before the Lehigh Tunnel.

For your Allegheny Mountain Tunnel example, the location shown that photo is either I-70/76 Eastbound at Somerset (Exit 110) or I-70/76 Westbound at Bedford (Exit 146).  Note the white gore striping on the lower-left of the photo and the words on the bottom of the sign USE THIS EXIT.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on October 10, 2014, 05:12:32 PM
Nope, it's just before the Allegheny Mountain Tunnel on the original Turnpike.  I never took I-476.
Fair enough, but there's similar signage at the fore-mentioned Northeast Extension (I-476) at the Lehigh Valley interchange (Exit 56 for US 22/I-78/PA 309) since it's the last northbound exit before the Lehigh Tunnel.

For your Allegheny Mountain Tunnel example, the location shown that photo is either I-70/76 Eastbound at Somerset (Exit 110) or I-70/76 Westbound at Bedford (Exit 146).  Note the white gore striping on the lower-left of the photo and the words on the bottom of the sign USE THIS EXIT.

Westbound at Bedford.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on October 12, 2014, 12:33:21 AM
Interesting piece of art representing... downtown? I'm guessing the buildings in the design represent the city centre, along with the "city centre" on the sign.

(http://i.imgur.com/kbULYEP.jpg)

GMSV: http://goo.gl/maps/V96cb
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: xcellntbuy on October 12, 2014, 06:36:17 AM
Interesting piece of art representing... downtown? I'm guessing the buildings in the design represent the city centre, along with the "city centre" on the sign.

(http://i.imgur.com/kbULYEP.jpg)

GMSV: http://goo.gl/maps/V96cb
It looks like a two interstate shields "melted" down.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on October 12, 2014, 04:49:18 PM
Interesting piece of art representing... downtown? I'm guessing the buildings in the design represent the city centre, along with the "city centre" on the sign.

(http://i.imgur.com/kbULYEP.jpg)
It looks like a two interstate shields "melted" down.

Yes, my first impression was "what the heck happened to that sign and why is it still up?".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 12, 2014, 06:33:32 PM
Interesting piece of art representing... downtown? I'm guessing the buildings in the design represent the city centre, along with the "city centre" on the sign.

It looks like a two interstate shields "melted" down.

Yes, my first impression was "what the heck happened to that sign and why is it still up?".

I'm normally for a little bit of local customization of signs, but not sure this was the right approach. They should come up with something else.

Then again, in Canada, there's no such thing as an interstate shield. So only us Americans (and frequent border-crossers) are going to see that (though it took me a while to see it).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on October 14, 2014, 10:33:41 AM
Looking though some Jacksonville photos from last year, I discovered...a Neutered, Neutered Shield:

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3929/15517336571_b39feb4a33_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pDdpxH)
Generic 295 (https://flic.kr/p/pDdpxH) by formulanone (https://www.flickr.com/people/30552029@N00/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on October 14, 2014, 10:38:50 AM
A neutered-neutered standard-width shield nonetheless. Also, it looks like the text is tilted (look at the 9 in particular) in the shield itself.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 15, 2014, 03:13:10 PM
WA-303 as it nears the interchange with WA-3 (sometimes known as the Waaga Junction):

Sign-colored numerals. Not unique if compared to North America as a whole, but certainly unique in Washington:

(http://i.imgur.com/dvcNFT3.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on October 15, 2014, 05:48:31 PM
WA-303 as it nears the interchange with WA-3 (sometimes known as the Waaga Junction):

Sign-colored numerals. Not unique if compared to North America as a whole, but certainly unique in Washington:

(http://i.imgur.com/dvcNFT3.jpg)

You could sort of count Vermont in there, but their route shield is BGS green, so it kinda doesn't count
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: geocachingpirate on October 18, 2014, 05:25:14 PM
I am betting this is somewhere on the forum but I found this kinda funny. Riding down the Blue Ridge Parkway today and seeing this. Here it is on Google Maps.

(http://i.imgur.com/9A4mC18.png?1)

Old US 421. Not NC 421.  :banghead:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on October 18, 2014, 05:36:31 PM
Looking though some Jacksonville photos from last year, I discovered...a Neutered, Neutered Shield:

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3929/15517336571_b39feb4a33_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pDdpxH)
Generic 295 (https://flic.kr/p/pDdpxH) by formulanone (https://www.flickr.com/people/30552029@N00/), on Flickr
Must have been stolen from North Carolina :bigass:
http://gribblenation.net/ncfutints/fut295.html
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: OracleUsr on October 19, 2014, 03:24:00 AM
No idea where to put this, but this is pretty ugly looking...

(http://i.imgur.com/2hb2xtH.png)

I wonder what size the '40' is. This shields look to be 48" tall, so I'm guessing that it's around 24", which looks ugly as hell. The numbers are practically bleeding into the border.

Also note the lack of a margin between the legend and the border. Also, it's always weird to see "Oklahoma City" spelled out on a sign, since most of the time it's only used as a control city inside of Oklahoma, which consistently abbreviates it as "Okla. City".

I guess since Fort Smith is the last city in Arkansas before you reach Oklahoma, OKC is the most logical choice for control city there.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on October 20, 2014, 12:46:42 PM
Found this thing on NY 137:
(http://www.nysroads.com/images/gallery/NY/ny137/101_0690-s.JPG)

I also love Quebec's signs warning of the danger of a collision of two road signs.
(http://www.nysroads.com/images/gallery/QC/a20/101_0117-s.JPG)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on October 27, 2014, 03:21:16 PM
Driving US 64-74 in Tennessee yesterday, I saw a text sign warning of vehicles crossing the centerline in curves. Then, approaching a sharp turn, I saw this:

(http://i.imgur.com/dAODTxo.jpg)

A closeup...

(http://i.imgur.com/NVCMHap.jpg)

Never seen anything like this.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on October 27, 2014, 03:24:48 PM
Also came across one of Alabama's vanishing "slotted signs" in Huntsville.

(http://i.imgur.com/rX7YqMd.jpg)

From a certain angle as you approach this sign, you can see through the slots. Wish the camera had recorded that phenomenon.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 27, 2014, 06:00:41 PM
Driving US 64-74 in Tennessee yesterday, I saw a text sign warning of vehicles crossing the centerline in curves. Then, approaching a sharp turn, I saw this:

A closeup...

Never seen anything like this.

I thought you were going full tenso (http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/tenso) for a second, there (with the zoom).

Anyways, looks like the locals were also so confused, they shot the sign and the yellow bits have temporarily repaired the missing areas.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on October 27, 2014, 11:17:22 PM
Also came across one of Alabama's vanishing "slotted signs" in Huntsville.

(http://i.imgur.com/rX7YqMd.jpg)

From a certain angle as you approach this sign, you can see through the slots. Wish the camera had recorded that phenomenon.
I believe I have a picture of that sign (or another one) where you can see through the slots. I want to say we have about 6 of those here in Huntsville.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on October 28, 2014, 10:50:45 AM
Here are the other five slotted BGSs in Huntsville:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7512/15650784165_68c566c5e2.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pR1mSi)
Slotted BGS (https://flic.kr/p/pR1mSi) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3936/15464166869_61538bcb6b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pyvU3H)
Slotted BGS (https://flic.kr/p/pyvU3H) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3944/15627096946_27ac79c5ba.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pNUXtY)
Slotted BGS (https://flic.kr/p/pNUXtY) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5599/15030653903_4c97c89faf.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oUd2Ke)
Slotted BGS (https://flic.kr/p/oUd2Ke) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5616/15464918447_f4eb1d52ab.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pyzKsX)
Slotted BGS (https://flic.kr/p/pyzKsX) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

Here's a "Do Not Enter" sign that was made on a rectangular blank rather than a square one:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7546/15030080854_fe92da0926.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oUa6p5)
Weird Do Not Enter Sign (https://flic.kr/p/oUa6p5) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

Here's an odd "Keep Right" sign:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7495/15464263169_eb34de7990.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pywoF4)
Odd Keep Right Sign (https://flic.kr/p/pywoF4) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on October 28, 2014, 11:24:07 AM
^ Those style of signs were fun to emulate for some of the Alabama pages on the main site: (https://www.aaroads.com/guide.php?page=i0065sial)

(https://www.aaroads.com/southeast/images/i0065_end.png)
(https://www.aaroads.com/southeast/images/i0065sjal_sign.png)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on October 28, 2014, 11:55:06 AM
What's the reason for using that sort of sign? Something to do with wind?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: dfnva on October 28, 2014, 07:49:55 PM
Here are the other five slotted BGSs in Huntsville:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7512/15650784165_68c566c5e2.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pR1mSi)
Slotted BGS (https://flic.kr/p/pR1mSi) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3936/15464166869_61538bcb6b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pyvU3H)
Slotted BGS (https://flic.kr/p/pyvU3H) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3944/15627096946_27ac79c5ba.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pNUXtY)
Slotted BGS (https://flic.kr/p/pNUXtY) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5599/15030653903_4c97c89faf.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oUd2Ke)
Slotted BGS (https://flic.kr/p/oUd2Ke) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5616/15464918447_f4eb1d52ab.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pyzKsX)
Slotted BGS (https://flic.kr/p/pyzKsX) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

Here's a "Do Not Enter" sign that was made on a rectangular blank rather than a square one:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7546/15030080854_fe92da0926.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oUa6p5)
Weird Do Not Enter Sign (https://flic.kr/p/oUa6p5) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

Here's an odd "Keep Right" sign:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7495/15464263169_eb34de7990.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pywoF4)
Odd Keep Right Sign (https://flic.kr/p/pywoF4) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

If I'm not mistaken, a long time ago, there was a slotted sign of this style in Maryland on I-495 Northbound at MD-190/River Rd (Exit 39). It was replaced in the late 1980s or early 1990s after road construction.  Was this a common sign style in Maryland?  That's the only one I ever remember seeing.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on October 28, 2014, 07:58:27 PM
What's the reason for using that sort of sign? Something to do with wind?

Probably to make them more resistant to strong winds.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Alex4897 on October 28, 2014, 08:43:57 PM
There's a gantry of these slotted sign on I-495 in DE over the Christina River.

(http://i.imgur.com/zv5YYCq.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on October 28, 2014, 09:38:59 PM
There's a gantry of these slotted sign on I-495 in DE over the Christina River.

(http://i.imgur.com/zv5YYCq.png)

Cool...I always wondered where, if anywhere else, the "Alabama Slats" could be found.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on October 29, 2014, 03:41:23 PM
Cool...I always wondered where, if anywhere else, the "Alabama Slats" could be found.

I've seen those before, a long time ago, and it certainly wasn't Alabama or Delaware.  Maybe the southern California inland areas subject to high winds had them for a while?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on October 29, 2014, 04:15:54 PM
Prior to either the 90s or early 2000s, I-95 in Portmouth, NH used to have some slotted BGS' as well.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bing101 on October 29, 2014, 09:51:13 PM
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=936840436345504&set=a.187942584568630.50648.100000586708549&type=1&theater

Odd Sign on I-80 @ CA-12 in Fairfield, CA for the Sacramento and Fairfield Control Cities on I-80.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bing101 on October 30, 2014, 04:18:52 PM
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=936856613010553&set=gm.297989813741871&type=1&theater

an Outdated button copy shot in 2014 "Marine World Parkway" in CA-37 in Vallejo, CA but Marine World Parkway no longer exists today. Its been renamed CA-37 Parkway James Capoot Highway.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on November 07, 2014, 01:20:55 AM
I thought this sign was rather interesting. Why you ask? Well, it's the only Washington I-5 state-named shield that I know in Pierce County, but more interesting is that it's in unincorporated Pierce County...basically, it's in the middle of nowhere. I'm used to seeing state-named shields in Seattle, where the infrastructure is so old that it makes sense. But the location of the sign (here) in question does baffle me a bit; the freeway was built in the late 70s, and (as far as I knew, at least) state-named shields by then were already phased-out. Keeping me from putting this on the best-of thread is the fact that the BGS is really starting to fall apart, and the I-5/WA-512 shields are out of order (the sign is pointing drivers toward the WA-512 on-ramps).

The most embarrassing thing is that I drive past this sign everyday and have never noticed this.

(http://i.imgur.com/yoIWJTF.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on November 07, 2014, 12:42:58 PM
Keeping me from putting this on the best-of thread is the fact that the BGS is really starting to fall apart
I don't think that's a qualifier over there.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on November 07, 2014, 12:59:36 PM
Its been renamed CA-37 Parkway James Capoot Highway.
I doubt this.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on November 07, 2014, 01:08:25 PM
I can't decide whether this belongs here, in "Worst of," or somewhere else, so I'll put it here. I passed this I-95 shield earlier today in Springfield, Virginia. It's new within the past few weeks and there's another just like it a short distance further back at the previous intersection. I assume the covered-up sign underneath says "E-ZPass EXPRESS" for the new HO/T lanes that begin operation next month.

I'm not sure whether I like this shield because what draws my eye is the amount of empty blue space between the "95" digits and the red "Interstate" portion. Seems to me if you want to post a neutered shield, you may as well use the vacated space to employ larger numbers. Leaving the vacated space like this just calls my eye's attention to the missing state name. On the other hand, some neutered shields' numbers look almost too big, sort of like they're crammed in by using every square millimetre of available space, and that's certainly not the case here (though Virginia has plenty of that type of shield). Hence why I couldn't decide which thread was the right place.

(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c378/1995hoo/Road%20sign%20pictures/I-95shield_zpse6f0739b.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on November 07, 2014, 01:12:00 PM
I'm not sure whether I like this shield because what draws my eye is the amount of empty blue space between the "95" digits and the red "Interstate" portion. Seems to me if you want to post a neutered shield, you may as well use the vacated space to employ larger numbers. Leaving the vacated space like this just calls my eye's attention to the missing state name. On the other hand, some neutered shields' numbers look almost too big, sort of like they're crammed in by using every square millimetre of available space, and that's certainly not the case here (though Virginia has plenty of that type of shield). Hence why I couldn't decide which thread was the right place.

(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c378/1995hoo/Road%20sign%20pictures/I-95shield_zpse6f0739b.png)
That seems to be a recurring practice as of late; especially w/2di shields.  I've seen similar examples of new I-95 shields in PA & MA.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bing101 on November 07, 2014, 01:34:48 PM
Its been renamed CA-37 Parkway James Capoot Highway.
I doubt this.

http://patch.com/california/dixon/highway-named-for-slain-vallejo-officer-capoot

Here it is
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on November 07, 2014, 03:24:05 PM
Its been renamed CA-37 Parkway James Capoot Highway.
I doubt this.

http://patch.com/california/dixon/highway-named-for-slain-vallejo-officer-capoot

Here it is

Quote
The signs designate that section of road as Vallejo Police Officer James Capoot Memorial Highway.

Leaving aside the question of who the fuck uses these ceremonial names, this is not "CA-37 Parkway James Capoot Highway".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: The High Plains Traveler on November 07, 2014, 03:32:03 PM
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=936840436345504&set=a.187942584568630.50648.100000586708549&type=1&theater

Odd Sign on I-80 @ CA-12 in Fairfield, CA for the Sacramento and Fairfield Control Cities on I-80.
Just through there this fall, visiting my wife's cousin who lives in Suisun City. I think the reason for the "Fairfield" entry on the pull-through sign is to alert traffic that EB CA-12 doesn't go to Fairfield; rather you have to exit ahead.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on November 07, 2014, 05:30:13 PM
Leaving aside the question of who the fuck uses these ceremonial names, this is not "CA-37 Parkway James Capoot Highway".

In my attempt to find the sign, searching google for "Parkway James Capoot Highway" returned zero results. "James Capoot Highway" also returned zero results.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: doorknob60 on November 08, 2014, 04:16:17 AM
I posted this in the erroneous thread already, but I thought it was odd enough to post here.

I'm not sure who's responsible for this (Lane County?), but this is their attempt at an OR-58 shield:
(http://i.imgur.com/fOcV1Xy.png)

Points for effort I guess. I don't think I've ever seen anything like this before, except old state named US shields.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on November 08, 2014, 02:01:02 PM
(http://i1028.photobucket.com/albums/y348/hbelkins/To_KY_38_zpse81f4850.jpg) (http://s1028.photobucket.com/user/hbelkins/media/To_KY_38_zpse81f4850.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kacie Jane on November 08, 2014, 06:05:09 PM
Well, it's the only Washington I-5 state-named shield that I know in Pierce County...

Off the top of my head, I can't prove you wrong.  But I assure you I'm taking that as a challenge.

...and the I-5/WA-512 shields are out of order (the sign is pointing drivers toward the WA-512 on-ramps).

Huge peeve of mine, and I think every ramp between Steele Street and Puyallup has the shields in that order.  Even worse though is at the western terminus (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.1631449,-122.4837035,3a,15y,33.89h,88.33t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sT2tQR0s4D-aqTN2gOPXaDQ!2e0)... Not only is there no mention of 512 at all, but look at the control cities.  An I-5 South city, a 512 East city... but no I-5 North city.  (Especially egregious given that it's pointing north on South Tacoma Way.  I'd imagine more traffic passing this sign is headed towards Tacoma/Seattle than Olympia, since southbound traffic would have the option of heading south and getting on I-5 at Bridgeport rather than backtracking north and getting on here.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on November 10, 2014, 10:33:47 AM
Saw this retro-style, cut-corner LGS (http://goo.gl/maps/HdLdM) along MA 67 in New Braintree this past weekend.  Pardon the grainy GSV image.

I say retro because the white/grey reflectorized lettering is the dead give-away that this LGS does not date back to 1973-74... the last time the MassDPW made cut-corner D6 LGS panels.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on November 10, 2014, 10:42:30 AM
Saw this retro-style, cut-corner LGS (http://goo.gl/maps/HdLdM) along MA 67 in New Braintree this past weekend.  Pardon the grainy GSV image.

Much better photo:
(http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ma/ma_67/sbarre.jpg)
from http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ma/ma_67/
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on November 10, 2014, 11:39:58 AM
Saw this retro-style, cut-corner LGS (http://goo.gl/maps/HdLdM) along MA 67 in New Braintree this past weekend.  Pardon the grainy GSV image.

Much better photo:
(http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ma/ma_67/sbarre.jpg)
from http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ma/ma_67/
Thanks for sharing.  At least the GSV and my observation this past weekend proves that this LGS is still there.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: talllguy on November 11, 2014, 10:33:50 PM
OK? Is it normal to put OK?

(http://i.imgur.com/ybLIHWQ.jpg) (http://imgur.com/ybLIHWQ)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on November 11, 2014, 10:42:32 PM

OK? Is it normal to put OK?

I've seen it when the sign has just a single directional arrow, but not both like here.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on November 12, 2014, 03:41:20 AM
That used to be fairly common on shared lane-use arrow signs, at least around Las Vegas, NV--but I haven't in years.

It may have been an old standard or option in the MUTCD...I'd have to look...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NYhwyfan on November 12, 2014, 04:33:35 PM
OK? Is it normal to put OK?

(http://i.imgur.com/ybLIHWQ.jpg) (http://imgur.com/ybLIHWQ)

Why even bother with 'OK'
Just install a plain Left / Straight Optional Lane sign
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on November 12, 2014, 04:54:42 PM
OK? Is it normal to put OK?

(http://i.imgur.com/ybLIHWQ.jpg) (http://imgur.com/ybLIHWQ)

That's almost a candidate for this thread:

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=11212.0
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Alex4897 on November 12, 2014, 08:52:19 PM
That used to be fairly common on shared lane-use arrow signs, at least around Las Vegas, NV--but I haven't in years.

It may have been an old standard or option in the MUTCD...I'd have to look...

I'm fairly certain that "OK" is an option in the MUTCD.  Judging by the confusion it's causing though it doesn't take much to assume that it's lightly used.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Revive 755 on November 12, 2014, 09:36:13 PM
I'm fairly certain that "OK" is an option in the MUTCD.  Judging by the confusion it's causing though it doesn't take much to assume that it's lightly used.

Quote from: 2009 MUTCD, Section 2B.21, Paragraph 07
The word message OK may be used within the border in combination with the arrow symbols of the R3-6 sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on November 12, 2014, 10:33:15 PM
So you can either go straight or turn left to get to Oklahoma.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on November 13, 2014, 12:43:03 PM
Someone inverted the colors on the Taconic shield:
(http://www.nysroads.com/images/gallery/NY/ny9g/101_0782-s.JPG)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on November 13, 2014, 01:23:37 PM
Actually, I like that color scheme for the Taconic Parkway.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NoGoodNamesAvailable on November 14, 2014, 08:17:40 PM
Not sure about this one. Does anyone know if this is standard, or at least if you've seen others in NYC?
(http://i.imgur.com/xEc7ndm.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on November 14, 2014, 08:22:21 PM
There's this thing as well:

(http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ny/nyc/wokno.jpg)
(photo from Alpsroads.net)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on November 14, 2014, 08:25:54 PM
Not sure about this one. Does anyone know if this is standard, or at least if you've seen others in NYC?
(http://i.imgur.com/xEc7ndm.png)
That ONLY below is definitely wrong.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NoGoodNamesAvailable on November 14, 2014, 08:33:04 PM
There's this thing as well:

(http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ny/nyc/wokno.jpg)
(photo from Alpsroads.net)

Oh my god. I guess it's useful, but it just looks hideous.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on November 15, 2014, 12:06:47 PM
I would have just put arrows to where it was ok to turn and nowhere else. I think when people are driving and see a black arrow, they believe they can turn there, without even reading the text.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NoGoodNamesAvailable on November 15, 2014, 04:14:44 PM
Got some more signs.
(http://i.imgur.com/ZtG5RsG.png)
Not sure about this one. Looks "off" to me.
(http://i.imgur.com/y1BIJIg.png)
That second shield looks awfully... bulbous.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on November 15, 2014, 09:12:57 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/y1BIJIg.png)
That second shield looks awfully... bulbous.

Drafting error.  I'd say they got the radius dimensions confused for the top curve vs the shoulder curves.  The fact that it's a cutout is troubling.  Does that mean a punch die was manufactured to the wrong specifications?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on November 15, 2014, 10:26:40 PM
[Image removed]

That second shield looks awfully... bulbous.

Drafting error.  I'd say they got the radius dimensions confused for the top curve vs the shoulder curves.  The fact that it's a cutout is troubling.  Does that mean a punch die was manufactured to the wrong specifications?

Or they just laser cut it. Quite common nowadays as you can just take an AutoCAD file and have the thing finished within minutes, no die needed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on November 21, 2014, 08:43:39 AM
Old-school direction arrow (though the arrowhead's a bit small) going through the I-95 shield applied to a relatively-new MassDOT D6 "Paddle" sign (http://goo.gl/maps/wDJbP) in Waltham.  Another old-school attribute of this LGS is that it's 2-sided (pan the attached link).  For newer installations, MassDOT typically installs two separate single-sided D6 panels.

The lower D8 panel is somewhat oddly configured as well with the small upright arrow and the squeezing in of both the local & distant destinations.  For 2-destination listings, either a larger D8 panel (such has been done elsewhere) or a separate D6 installation for the I-95 South LGS would've been better IMHO.

Fortunately, since this installation is at a signalized intersection for a conventional roadway; normal traffic won't be traveling at a high rate of speed so the current D8 panel with the smallish arrow & lettering should suffice.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: talllguy on November 22, 2014, 11:30:24 AM
Here's a sign for 95 on a trail in the Columbia area. It's way up there!

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7581/15228587934_3041507e23_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pcGuCW)
Photo (https://flic.kr/p/pcGuCW) by Elliott Plack (https://www.flickr.com/people/88483799@N00/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on November 24, 2014, 11:23:15 AM
While not unique in style per say (though one could argue whether it's erroneous or not); the recently-erected replacement BGS' (http://goo.gl/maps/398U7) for the now-gone button-copy BGS' (http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/pa/us_202/) along US 202/322 at the Business 322/High St. interchange still uses Paoli for a US 202 northbound destination (as opposed to King of Prussia).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Billy F 1988 on November 24, 2014, 12:16:50 PM
Wah! What is with that "BUSINESS" drop cap on the High Street sign? Is that like Series E Condensed or something?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on November 24, 2014, 04:01:14 PM
Wah! What is with that "BUSINESS" drop cap on the High Street sign?
PennDOT's done similar (http://goo.gl/maps/toF6m) before.

Is that like Series E Condensed or something?
Same font as the other letters; just a different height.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman on November 24, 2014, 04:09:21 PM
Old-school direction arrow (though the arrowhead's a bit small) going through the I-95 shield applied to a relatively-new MassDOT D6 "Paddle" sign (http://goo.gl/maps/wDJbP) in Waltham.  Another old-school attribute of this LGS is that it's 2-sided (pan the attached link).  For newer installations, MassDOT typically installs two separate single-sided D6 panels.

The lower D8 panel is somewhat oddly configured as well with the small upright arrow and the squeezing in of both the local & distant destinations.  For 2-destination listings, either a larger D8 panel (such has been done elsewhere) or a separate D6 installation for the I-95 South LGS would've been better IMHO.

Fortunately, since this installation is at a signalized intersection for a conventional roadway; normal traffic won't be traveling at a high rate of speed so the current D8 panel with the smallish arrow & lettering should suffice.



District 4 strikes again - probably a knockdown was replaced under either Accident Recovery or the sign maintenance contract, and they likely based the replacement legend off of an old sign card.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: myosh_tino on November 24, 2014, 04:12:47 PM
Is that like Series E Condensed or something?
Same font as the other letters; just a different height.

To me, the raised-cap BUSINESS uses Series E letters with reduced inter-character spacing.  The letters, themselves are not compressed, just the spacing between them.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on November 25, 2014, 12:32:51 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/Dvw6AVY.jpg)

.112 Miles? That's 180 m or 591 ft.

ME 161 at US 1 / NB 161
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on November 25, 2014, 12:51:55 PM
Maybe it's set that way for Canadians that don't' know what feet are? (not the Americans ever bother with unit conversions in the first place)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on November 25, 2014, 01:22:39 PM
But even so, ~600 feet isn't a commonly-used signage distance. Usually, they'd round it up to 1/8 mile or 1000 ft.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on November 25, 2014, 04:27:57 PM
Obviously the construction contract specified the work limits by mileage along ME 161, to three decimal places as I'm sure is common.  Whatever rule normally results in signs like "road work next XXX miles" doesn't seem to have a provision for rounding, as I've seen other examples with so many digits given.  The fact that this work zone is so short just slightly adds to the absurdity.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on November 27, 2014, 01:07:44 AM
Saw this today over in Madison, AL. This is the first time I've seen something like this.
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8633/15888396182_6a89b456d1.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qd1bDd)
Right Turn On Red Must Yield To U-turn (https://flic.kr/p/qd1bDd) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

This sign also exists in Madison. (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.7209608,-86.7094351,3a,15y,286.82h,91.09t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s7T7y1p1MtkuiEvcdnOHQ_g!2e0?hl=en)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on November 27, 2014, 01:12:48 AM
I've seen that around here (and the reverse, U-turn must yield to right turn, placed where right turns get a green arrow along with the green left).

Question: in the states where you can turn left on red from a two-way onto a one-way, can you bang a uey on red?

It's also worth noting that (on multilane roads) this conflict technically only applies in states where you don't have to turn into the nearest lane. But requiring a U-turn into the leftmost lane is fucking stupid, since half the U-turners are going to be turning right soon.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on November 27, 2014, 01:24:03 AM
Saw this today over in Madison, AL. This is the first time I've seen something like this.

I've seen deviations of that in Washington before: http://goo.gl/aLKDPT
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SSOWorld on November 27, 2014, 06:42:17 AM
Fargo has them as well
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on November 27, 2014, 02:31:25 PM
Question: in the states where you can turn left on red from a two-way onto a one-way, can you bang a uey on red?

Left turn on red from two way to one way is found most often in downtown streets with one-way couplets, and downtown streets aren't often wide enough for U-turns. That said, this (http://goo.gl/1dlsft) is one place where a uey on red could occur. But at least in Washington, U-turns are legal except when you would interfere with other traffic or when a sign prevents it, so most people would just flip a bitch in the middle of the street. Meaning, your described situation is hilariously rare.

It's also worth noting that (on multilane roads) this conflict technically only applies in states where you don't have to turn into the nearest lane. But requiring a U-turn into the leftmost lane is fucking stupid, since half the U-turners are going to be turning right soon.

I don't think cars are capable of turning into the far left lane after a U-turn. There's a road near where I grew up that has three lanes in each direction with a hard median. Where there are lefts allowed, U-turns are also allowed. Despite having tried, I have never been able to turn into the closest lane (middle lane once).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Stratuscaster on November 27, 2014, 06:10:47 PM
Saw this today over in Madison, AL. This is the first time I've seen something like this.
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8633/15888396182_6a89b456d1.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qd1bDd)
Right Turn On Red Must Yield To U-turn (https://flic.kr/p/qd1bDd) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

This sign also exists in Madison. (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.7209608,-86.7094351,3a,15y,286.82h,91.09t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s7T7y1p1MtkuiEvcdnOHQ_g!2e0?hl=en)
When IL-64/North Avenue was widened between I-355 and IL-59, signs similar to these popped up on the crossroads all along that stretch.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mefailenglish on November 29, 2014, 07:22:42 PM
(http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg36/jcm9572/20141127%20-%20South%20Florida/IMG_4477_zpsb85b0991.jpg)
Presented w/o comment.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on November 29, 2014, 07:25:16 PM
(http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg36/jcm9572/20141127%20-%20South%20Florida/IMG_4477_zpsb85b0991.jpg)
Presented w/o comment.

The arrow is quite redundant I think. It's not a bad idea having the "MI" after the distance also, IMO.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on November 29, 2014, 08:57:37 PM
Saw this today over in Madison, AL. This is the first time I've seen something like this.
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8633/15888396182_6a89b456d1.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qd1bDd)
Right Turn On Red Must Yield To U-turn (https://flic.kr/p/qd1bDd) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

This sign also exists in Madison. (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.7209608,-86.7094351,3a,15y,286.82h,91.09t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s7T7y1p1MtkuiEvcdnOHQ_g!2e0?hl=en)

Some intersections here have them. Not many people pay any attention to them.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on November 30, 2014, 08:36:53 AM
Saw this today over in Madison, AL. This is the first time I've seen something like this.
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8633/15888396182_6a89b456d1.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qd1bDd)
Right Turn On Red Must Yield To U-turn (https://flic.kr/p/qd1bDd) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

This sign also exists in Madison. (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.7209608,-86.7094351,3a,15y,286.82h,91.09t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s7T7y1p1MtkuiEvcdnOHQ_g!2e0?hl=en)

Some intersections here have them. Not many people pay any attention to them.

I guess a good follow up question is normally which would normally have the right of way if there was no sign, right turn on red or U-turn.  Would this change if there were a right turn arrow, or a left turn arrow, or both.

In California, at any intersection with a right turn arrow that corresponds to a left turn arrow, there is a No U-turn sign.  Here in MD, that is not the case, and there have been a number of close calls that I've seen.  But does anyone know who would normally have the right of way?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: misterjimmy on November 30, 2014, 09:48:05 AM
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3043/2889158303_95dbb237f5_z_d.jpg)

US 56 near Kansas City, MO

Ewwwwwwwwwwww. How exactly does this end up happening? I mean, don't you think whoever is putting the assembly up would look at it and go, "Wait a minute, something isn't right here..."?
[/quote

  "Hey, kid, ya put the wrong font on this one!"

"Gee, sorry, Sully. Want me to go back to the shop and make another one?"

   "Nahhhhh, screw it. Hang that and let's go to lunch, kid"
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on November 30, 2014, 12:25:13 PM
Saw this today over in Madison, AL. This is the first time I've seen something like this.
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8633/15888396182_6a89b456d1.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qd1bDd)
Right Turn On Red Must Yield To U-turn (https://flic.kr/p/qd1bDd) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

This sign also exists in Madison. (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.7209608,-86.7094351,3a,15y,286.82h,91.09t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s7T7y1p1MtkuiEvcdnOHQ_g!2e0?hl=en)

Some intersections here have them. Not many people pay any attention to them.

I guess a good follow up question is normally which would normally have the right of way if there was no sign, right turn on red or U-turn.  Would this change if there were a right turn arrow, or a left turn arrow, or both.

In California, at any intersection with a right turn arrow that corresponds to a left turn arrow, there is a No U-turn sign.  Here in MD, that is not the case, and there have been a number of close calls that I've seen.  But does anyone know who would normally have the right of way?

It depends on what the other light is showing, but in general, if the person making the U-turn has a green light of any sort (whether an arrow or a ball), or even a flashing yellow arrow, the person making the turn on red must yield because he has a red light. That is, the green light for the person making the U-turn takes precedence because turning on red is an exception to the "stop and wait for a green rule" and it applies only when there is nobody else entitled to go first.

Of course, if the person turning right had a green right-turn arrow while the rest of the traffic on his road had a red, then the U-turner would be required to yield even if he also had a green arrow, under the principle that a U-turner must normally yield. It's quite undesirable to have conflicting green arrows like that, but I've definitely seen it. An intersection near my house had a "U-Turn Must Yield to Right Turn" sign posted, but the U-turners ignored it and it kept getting knocked down.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Darkchylde on November 30, 2014, 01:58:03 PM
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3043/2889158303_95dbb237f5_z_d.jpg)

US 56 near Kansas City, MO

Ewwwwwwwwwwww. How exactly does this end up happening? I mean, don't you think whoever is putting the assembly up would look at it and go, "Wait a minute, something isn't right here..."?

  "Hey, kid, ya put the wrong font on this one!"

"Gee, sorry, Sully. Want me to go back to the shop and make another one?"

   "Nahhhhh, screw it. Hang that and let's go to lunch, kid"
This is pretty much every sign in KCMO for US 56 except for the ones at the interchange with US 71.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mr. Matté on November 30, 2014, 05:14:40 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Z6YhMxn.jpg)

What is a "narrow hill?" (also note the hidden driveway, it's apparently the law)

Location: https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=40.121026,-74.495995&spn=0.014111,0.027874&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=40.12078,-74.495815&panoid=8iCRTdb-G2O8wTDK6q8fPw&cbp=12,177.3,,1,8.56
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on December 01, 2014, 01:00:58 PM
I want to know what's going on with the sign on the right:
(http://www.nysroads.com/images/gallery/NY/ny531/101_0833-s.JPG)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on December 01, 2014, 01:09:05 PM
Old-school direction arrow (though the arrowhead's a bit small) going through the I-95 shield applied to a relatively-new MassDOT D6 "Paddle" sign (http://goo.gl/maps/wDJbP) in Waltham.  Another old-school attribute of this LGS is that it's 2-sided (pan the attached link).  For newer installations, MassDOT typically installs two separate single-sided D6 panels.

The lower D8 panel is somewhat oddly configured as well with the small upright arrow and the squeezing in of both the local & distant destinations.  For 2-destination listings, either a larger D8 panel (such has been done elsewhere) or a separate D6 installation for the I-95 South LGS would've been better IMHO.

Fortunately, since this installation is at a signalized intersection for a conventional roadway; normal traffic won't be traveling at a high rate of speed so the current D8 panel with the smallish arrow & lettering should suffice.



District 4 strikes again - probably a knockdown was replaced under either Accident Recovery or the sign maintenance contract, and they likely based the replacement legend off of an old sign card.
Update: I drove by that area over the long holiday weekend; new LGS' have since replaced the older-style LGS'.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on December 01, 2014, 11:01:35 PM
I don't think this has been posted: Suwanee River crossing sign with musical notation, I-10, Florida (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.3579774,-83.1945563,3a,75y,95.33h,86.41t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sGWiQf5GbaaP5O9ZQ2dilxw!2e0?hl=en).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on December 02, 2014, 12:26:47 AM
I want to know what's going on with the sign on the right:
(http://www.nysroads.com/images/gallery/NY/ny531/101_0833-s.JPG)

I think it's just fuck-ugly.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on December 02, 2014, 08:39:01 AM
Saw this today over in Madison, AL. This is the first time I've seen something like this.
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8633/15888396182_6a89b456d1.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qd1bDd)
Right Turn On Red Must Yield To U-turn (https://flic.kr/p/qd1bDd) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

This sign also exists in Madison. (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.7209608,-86.7094351,3a,15y,286.82h,91.09t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s7T7y1p1MtkuiEvcdnOHQ_g!2e0?hl=en)

Some intersections here have them. Not many people pay any attention to them.

I guess a good follow up question is normally which would normally have the right of way if there was no sign, right turn on red or U-turn.  Would this change if there were a right turn arrow, or a left turn arrow, or both.

In California, at any intersection with a right turn arrow that corresponds to a left turn arrow, there is a No U-turn sign.  Here in MD, that is not the case, and there have been a number of close calls that I've seen.  But does anyone know who would normally have the right of way?

It depends on what the other light is showing, but in general, if the person making the U-turn has a green light of any sort (whether an arrow or a ball), or even a flashing yellow arrow, the person making the turn on red must yield because he has a red light. That is, the green light for the person making the U-turn takes precedence because turning on red is an exception to the "stop and wait for a green rule" and it applies only when there is nobody else entitled to go first.

Of course, if the person turning right had a green right-turn arrow while the rest of the traffic on his road had a red, then the U-turner would be required to yield even if he also had a green arrow, under the principle that a U-turner must normally yield. It's quite undesirable to have conflicting green arrows like that, but I've definitely seen it. An intersection near my house had a "U-Turn Must Yield to Right Turn" sign posted, but the U-turners ignored it and it kept getting knocked down.

If you have the red light, it doesn't really matter what the color of the other lights are, or if you can or can't see if the other lights: If someone else is in the intersection, you can't go.  Period.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Alex on December 02, 2014, 09:47:07 AM
I don't think this has been posted: Suwanee River crossing sign with musical notation, I-10, Florida (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.3579774,-83.1945563,3a,75y,95.33h,86.41t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sGWiQf5GbaaP5O9ZQ2dilxw!2e0?hl=en).

Only other instance with musical notes on a guide sign that comes to mind for me is the Hank Williams Memorial Lost Highway on I-65 in Lower Alabama:

(https://www.aaroads.com/southeast/alabama065/i-065_nb_exit_114_05.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on December 02, 2014, 08:15:10 PM
I want to know what's going on with the sign on the right:
(http://www.nysroads.com/images/gallery/NY/ny531/101_0833-s.JPG)

I think it's just fuck-ugly.

I-480 in Cleveland says hello:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/virtual_freeway_tours/1329292507/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/virtual_freeway_tours/1330186356/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/virtual_freeway_tours/1330186792/

Thankfully most, if not all of these, have been replaced.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on December 02, 2014, 10:47:25 PM
I want to know what's going on with the sign on the right:
(http://www.nysroads.com/images/gallery/NY/ny531/101_0833-s.JPG)

If the sign had been made the same height as the one to it's left, it could have been made with proper layout and spacing, and been made a couple feet narrower.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on December 03, 2014, 12:51:28 PM
Looks like they just used the same sizes as the old signs only to realize that the contents needed to be upgraded to newer standards: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1568474,-77.723023,3a,75y,111.85h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1snr9AmTrnAJFsIoG1MqmNeQ!2e0
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mr. Matté on December 03, 2014, 12:51:59 PM
We're not sure.
(http://i.imgur.com/E1Ao3all.jpg) (https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=39.453227,-74.946198&spn=0.008251,0.016512&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=39.453092,-74.946213&panoid=cyhVetGHnDLjRBPJhPnKWw&cbp=12,230.27,,0,14.21)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hubcity on December 03, 2014, 03:00:07 PM
We're not sure.
(http://i.imgur.com/E1Ao3all.jpg) (https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=39.453227,-74.946198&spn=0.008251,0.016512&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=39.453092,-74.946213&panoid=cyhVetGHnDLjRBPJhPnKWw&cbp=12,230.27,,0,14.21)

A traffic control implement has not yet caused me to douse my keyboard in a mouthful of coffee, but this came the closest.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on December 03, 2014, 03:37:39 PM
We're not sure.

A traffic control implement has not yet caused me to douse my keyboard in a mouthful of coffee, but this came the closest.

Would it alarm you if I pointed out the misspelled "may be"? It's not supposed to be "maybe", which is in itself analogous with "perhaps" (so the sign could optionally read "Road Perhaps Flooded").
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on December 03, 2014, 05:46:22 PM
We're not sure.

A traffic control implement has not yet caused me to douse my keyboard in a mouthful of coffee, but this came the closest.

Would it alarm you if I pointed out the misspelled "may be"? It's not supposed to be "maybe", which is in itself analogous with "perhaps" (so the sign could optionally read "Road Perhaps Flooded").

Agreed. More than likely, it's a misspelling. A great sign though.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on December 03, 2014, 09:03:04 PM
(http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg36/jcm9572/20141127%20-%20South%20Florida/IMG_4477_zpsb85b0991.jpg)
Presented w/o comment.

Mysteriously-ambiguous old Florida DOT standard to have an arrow pointing forward for no reason. Your example looks rather new, so I guess they aped an old sign.

From AlpsRoads.net (http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/fl/i-95/s.html):

(http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/fl/i-95/sdist3.jpg)

(http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/fl/i-95/nfort.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on December 14, 2014, 01:31:51 AM
Saw these two interesting signs in Federal Way, Washington yesterday:

(http://i.imgur.com/o9jdRTA.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/PRvKdUg.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on December 14, 2014, 10:12:09 AM

(http://i.imgur.com/PRvKdUg.jpg)

I looked through the MUTCD sections 2B.04-2B.12, and I cannot find any allowance or prohibition for using the 4-way plaque under a yield sign.  But I did read where they have prohibited the x-way plaque and want "all way" used instead.

So what is the difference between a 4-way stop and a 4 way-yield?   :hmmm:   :confused:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on December 14, 2014, 10:17:50 AM
I looked through the MUTCD sections 2B.04-2B.12, and I cannot find any allowance or prohibition for using the 4-way plaque under a yield sign.
"05 The ALL WAY plaque shall only be used if all intersection approaches are controlled by STOP signs."

So what is the difference between a 4-way stop and a 4 way-yield?   :hmmm:   :confused:
An uncontrolled intersection is literally the same as an all-way yield.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on December 14, 2014, 10:33:06 AM
I looked through the MUTCD sections 2B.04-2B.12, and I cannot find any allowance or prohibition for using the 4-way plaque under a yield sign.
"05 The ALL WAY plaque shall only be used if all intersection approaches are controlled by STOP signs."

Man I need to read a bit more careful.  So this means that the 4-way yield is non-compliant.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on December 14, 2014, 11:25:36 AM
I can see where an All-Way Yield plaque could lead to trouble -- roundabouts.  It insinuates that people within a roundabout could yield to traffic waiting to enter, and then cause even more problems. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on December 14, 2014, 09:46:58 PM
Just to clear this up, the all-way yield sign was in a parking lot. :sombrero: I suppose this means that it's hardly unique (most parking lot signs are unique in their awfulness) but it certainly caught my eye.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on December 15, 2014, 03:03:21 AM
Saw these two interesting signs in Federal Way, Washington yesterday:

(http://i.imgur.com/o9jdRTA.jpg)

Great that the flashing yellow indication--an arrow--was illuminated when that picture was taken.

Seems like the sign designer, or someone in the sign shop, had never seen an FYA display before and just modeled the sign after the standard "left turn yield on [circular green]" sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tom958 on December 16, 2014, 03:54:26 PM
Bethesda Park. It's dangerous as shit, so watch your ass.  :ded:
(http://i.imgur.com/JLEWRG1.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on December 17, 2014, 10:57:03 PM
Not in the US:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/canadagood/5532809828/sizes/l

NOT my pic. Credit goes to the author. No GMSV to back it up.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on December 17, 2014, 11:43:44 PM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/canadagood/5532809828/sizes/l
That, sir, is a horse's ass.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SidS1045 on December 19, 2014, 11:39:25 AM
Not in the US:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/canadagood/5532809828/sizes/l

NOT my pic. Credit goes to the author. No GMSV to back it up.

Miles?  In Canada?  I guess the Metric Police must have missed that one.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Pete from Boston on December 19, 2014, 12:23:02 PM

Not in the US:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/canadagood/5532809828/sizes/l

NOT my pic. Credit goes to the author. No GMSV to back it up.

Miles?  In Canada?  I guess the Metric Police must have missed that one.

I've always been curious how non-metric literacy is evolving in Canada. Anyone over a certain age can surely think in miles and feet, as can anyone in construction, but I'll bet it's diminishing.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SidS1045 on December 19, 2014, 09:58:21 PM
I've also noticed that the various TV programs featuring the contractor Mike Holmes (a Canadian) talk about almost every measurement in English units, except for temperature.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jwolfer on December 21, 2014, 02:08:18 PM
I've also noticed that the various TV programs featuring the contractor Mike Holmes (a Canadian) talk about almost every measurement in English units, except for temperature.
Construction is still in feet and inches. People think of height in feet.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on December 21, 2014, 04:59:51 PM
I don't think this has been posted: Suwanee River crossing sign with musical notation, I-10, Florida (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.3579774,-83.1945563,3a,75y,95.33h,86.41t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sGWiQf5GbaaP5O9ZQ2dilxw!2e0?hl=en).

Only other instance with musical notes on a guide sign that comes to mind for me is the Hank Williams Memorial Lost Highway on I-65 in Lower Alabama:

(https://www.aaroads.com/southeast/alabama065/i-065_nb_exit_114_05.jpg)

I'm guessing whoever designed that sign isn't a musician—the staff only has 4 lines!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on December 21, 2014, 09:17:04 PM
Maybe you wouldn't be able to read LOST HIGHWAY if it had more lines?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on December 21, 2014, 10:07:09 PM
ODOT in the recent years had to note every crossing of a city limit on a stretch of I-71 between exits 244 and 245 to denote what is in the city of Brooklyn and what is in the city of Cleveland.  It was moreso because the 2 cities were getting very anal about which city had to respond to calls on this stretch of freeway (talk about splitting hairs)

Look at how often I-71 crosses between the 2 cities in under a mile on this map: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Brooklyn,+OH/@41.447575,-81.7380672,16z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x8830ee468f9bf5f5:0x6cbe6346175e419a

and you'll see a small example of how ODOT had to respond to it:
(http://media.cleveland.com/roadrant_impact/photo/road-rant-cleveland-brooklyn-i-71-3d22a4e0aa808e1d.jpg)

This 25-30 foot section of Cleveland makes the 500-some foot section of I-71 through nearby Linndale look like you're crossing Delaware on I-95!!!


I would hate to see what would happen if a 53' semi trailer or larger would have an incident on this spot. How would the two cities cope???
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on December 21, 2014, 10:52:51 PM
I would hate to see what would happen if a 53' semi trailer or larger would have an incident on this spot. How would the two cities cope???

They would pro-rate it by length in each jurisdiction, and then spend approximately five times the total incident cost arguing in court about the bill.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on December 22, 2014, 06:10:21 AM
I note one of those signs in the picture is Clearview 5W/4W, while the other is FHWA EM/E.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on December 22, 2014, 03:32:08 PM
ODOT in the recent years had to note every crossing of a city limit on a stretch of I-71 between exits 244 and 245 to denote what is in the city of Brooklyn and what is in the city of Cleveland.  It was moreso because the 2 cities were getting very anal about which city had to respond to calls on this stretch of freeway (talk about splitting hairs)

Look at how often I-71 crosses between the 2 cities in under a mile on this map: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Brooklyn,+OH/@41.447575,-81.7380672,16z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x8830ee468f9bf5f5:0x6cbe6346175e419a

Good grief. Can't they just shake hands and agree to move the border to the creek? There must be an interesting story that goes with that squiggly border.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on December 24, 2014, 11:04:56 AM
Never seen this before. I think it means the lane is ending...

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b551/slik_sh00ter/Interesting_zpsc9673999.jpg)

GMSV: http://goo.gl/maps/mjodq
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on December 24, 2014, 12:15:33 PM
Never seen this before. I think it means the lane is ending...

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b551/slik_sh00ter/Interesting_zpsc9673999.jpg)

GMSV: http://goo.gl/maps/mjodq

Old school Ontario.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on December 24, 2014, 12:16:27 PM
I've also noticed that the various TV programs featuring the contractor Mike Holmes (a Canadian) talk about almost every measurement in English units, except for temperature.
Construction is still in feet and inches. People think of height in feet.

And to get even weirder, ambient temperatures are in Celsius, but cooking temperatures are in Fahrenheit.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Jim on December 24, 2014, 12:23:05 PM
Never seen this before. I think it means the lane is ending...

I've seen "Squeeze Left" occasionally, but found only one picture of it in my collection.  This one's from a construction zone in Hadley, MA, in 2002.

(http://www.teresco.org/pics/signs/20021013/squeeze.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SidS1045 on December 24, 2014, 01:40:06 PM
Never seen this before. I think it means the lane is ending...

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b551/slik_sh00ter/Interesting_zpsc9673999.jpg)

GMSV: http://goo.gl/maps/mjodq

ISTR a number of these on the Interborough (now Jackie Robinson) Parkway, in the area of the sharp curves in the cemetery belt as you leave Brooklyn.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 6a on December 24, 2014, 09:12:35 PM

ODOT in the recent years had to note every crossing of a city limit on a stretch of I-71 between exits 244 and 245 to denote what is in the city of Brooklyn and what is in the city of Cleveland.  It was moreso because the 2 cities were getting very anal about which city had to respond to calls on this stretch of freeway (talk about splitting hairs)

Look at how often I-71 crosses between the 2 cities in under a mile on this map: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Brooklyn,+OH/@41.447575,-81.7380672,16z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x8830ee468f9bf5f5:0x6cbe6346175e419a

and you'll see a small example of how ODOT had to respond to it:
(http://media.cleveland.com/roadrant_impact/photo/road-rant-cleveland-brooklyn-i-71-3d22a4e0aa808e1d.jpg)

This 25-30 foot section of Cleveland makes the 500-some foot section of I-71 through nearby Linndale look like you're crossing Delaware on I-95!!!


I would hate to see what would happen if a 53' semi trailer or larger would have an incident on this spot. How would the two cities cope???

Along those lines, Ohio also uses 'Enter Corp' and 'Leave Corp' signs for the same purposes, something I don't recall seeing in too many other places. As for your specific example, check this out:

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/12/24/7de56a11db01bf7cfaaa092d582c009c.jpg)

US 62 in Columbus / Franklin Township (red is the township.) Note in at least one spot the line goes down the middle of the road! I have heard of arguments over accidents where even the police don't know what jurisdiction is needed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: The Nature Boy on December 24, 2014, 10:00:42 PM
The FL sign posted a page back made me think of this:

(http://communicatingacrossboundaries.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/maine-turnpike.jpg)

Are NH and ME the only two states to provide distance in miles and kilometers?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SidS1045 on December 24, 2014, 10:29:39 PM
The FL sign posted a page back made me think of this:

(http://communicatingacrossboundaries.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/maine-turnpike.jpg)

Are NH and ME the only two states to provide distance in miles and kilometers?

NY has some on the Northway in Clinton County (Plattsburgh area), up to the Canadian border.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on December 25, 2014, 01:15:37 PM
I don't recall seeing any the two times I was there.  Maybe they used to have them?  Even the French "limited cell service" sign uses miles!
http://www.nysroads.com/photos.php?route=i87&state=NY&file=101_0612.JPG (unfortunately blurry due to the sun; click for the full size which is kinda sorta readable)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on December 25, 2014, 08:26:48 PM
There are a few signs in both Kentucky and Tennessee that have miles and kilometers listed.

(Why do we pronounce it "killahmahters" instead of "killometers"?)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on December 25, 2014, 08:44:50 PM
(Why do we pronounce it "killahmahters" instead of "killometers"?)

Depends on where you're from. I've always said the latter. Probably because that's how most Canadians pronounce it (notably, everyone in BC, even the British transplants).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: The Nature Boy on December 25, 2014, 08:47:17 PM
I remember distinctly pronouncing it "kilo-meters" in school but being told that I was incorrect. As a grammatical construct, kilo-meters makes sense because it's in line with how you pronounce the rest of the metric system.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on December 25, 2014, 11:04:25 PM
I remember distinctly pronouncing it "kilo-meters" in school but being told that I was incorrect. As a grammatical construct, kilo-meters makes sense because it's in line with how you pronounce the rest of the metric system.

Heh. I remember when I was a kid one of my classmates asked the teacher why we don't say "kill-ah-grums" instead of "kilo-grams" if we are to say "kill-ah-mitters."

To carry it to further absurdity, consider "kilolitres."

I've always said "kilo-metres" (with the first "e" a long "e").
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on December 26, 2014, 02:35:39 PM
There are a few signs in both Kentucky and Tennessee that have miles and kilometers listed.

(Why do we pronounce it "killahmahters" instead of "killometers"?)

Thermometer would be a good barometer for how to pronounce kilometer....

I'm trying to think of a xxxometer that is not pronounced this way but cannot.

Velometer, pedometer, speedometer

Mapmikey
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on December 26, 2014, 03:00:22 PM
But most ordinary people don't pronounce other metric measurements ending in "-metre" like "ih-tur"—it's not "sen-TIM-ih-tur," for example, or "mill-IH-mih-tur." It's illogical for this one measurement to be pronounced differently.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TXtoNJ on December 26, 2014, 03:40:44 PM
American English, when given the choice, tends to stress the second syllable in words that have more than three syllables. Millimeter and centimeter once* were both pronounced with the stress on the second syllable (~1828), but that faded away, owing in part to "e" being a stronger vowel than a "short i". With kilometer, though, the "short o" tends to be a stronger vowel than "e", making it more resistant to this change in pronunciation.

*To be fair, at that time, only the very well-educated would even know what a millimeter or centimeter were.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kurumi on December 26, 2014, 07:58:09 PM
We should all just say "klicks".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on December 26, 2014, 09:19:18 PM
We should all just say "klicks".

I'll stick with 0.62 mile, thankyouverymuch.  :bigass:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on December 30, 2014, 11:54:28 AM
Never seen this one before.

http://goo.gl/maps/r34HJ
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mass_citizen on January 03, 2015, 08:46:46 PM

Thermometer would be a good barometer for how to pronounce kilometer....

I'm trying to think of a xxxometer that is not pronounced this way but cannot.


Picometer, nanometer, hectometer
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mhh on January 03, 2015, 09:45:33 PM
In modern English, emphasis on the first syllable (CENT-i-meter, MILL-i-meter) usually indicates a metric unit, while emphasis on the  second syllable (spee-DOM-eter, o-DOM-eter, ther-MOM-eter) usually indicates a measuring device. The pronunciation "kil-OM-eter" is an illogical exception.

Also, in most if not all English-speaking countries other than the United States, metric units end with "-re" while measuring devices end with "-er".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: AsphaltPlanet on January 04, 2015, 12:33:16 PM
Signs like these debuted along the 402 in Sarnia, ON about a decade ago.  Queued US bound trucks were instructed not to block ramp lanes, and signs like these were installed at the end of each ramp in Sarnia.  Only this one remains:

(http://www.asphaltplanet.ca/ON/Ontroads/rampendshere.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CNGL-Leudimin on January 04, 2015, 03:41:52 PM

I'll stick with 0.62 mile, thankyouverymuch.  :bigass:

I'll prefer to go with 1.609344 km instead of a mile :sombrero:.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on January 04, 2015, 11:58:58 PM
Don't really know where to post this, so I'll post this here.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/canadagood/5146461955/in/pool-canada-signs

Love it. Not my pic.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: elsmere241 on January 05, 2015, 08:12:39 AM

I'll stick with 0.62 mile, thankyouverymuch.  :bigass:

I'll prefer to go with 1.609344 km instead of a mile :sombrero:.

Except it's 1.609347218694 because a km is 5280 survey feet (exactly 39.37 in/m vs exactly 2.54 cm/in).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Pete from Boston on January 05, 2015, 08:51:00 AM

Don't really know where to post this, so I'll post this here.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/canadagood/5146461955/in/pool-canada-signs

Love it. Not my pic.

In the Rural Municipality of Happyland!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on January 05, 2015, 10:32:02 AM
During last weekend's Cape May mini-meet; we all saw this gem of a sign (http://goo.gl/maps/PG4uu) along CR 621/Ocean Drive in North Wildwood.

IMHO, the above would rival this one (http://goo.gl/maps/PU8XX) in Lower Township; the site of the meet's group photo (which will eventually be posted in the meet thread).

Close-up of similar sign at the opposite side of the bridge, now gone; scroll down (http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/nj/nj_162/).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TheHighwayMan394 on January 05, 2015, 11:55:09 AM
(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg198/thehighwayman394/B5TvOPyIEAA6aw0_zpsbb189a05.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on January 05, 2015, 12:59:56 PM
(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg198/thehighwayman394/B5TvOPyIEAA6aw0_zpsbb189a05.jpg)

That's hilarious.   :-D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on January 05, 2015, 06:37:51 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/dougtone/4118984473/in/pool-canada-signs

Quite unique. Not even sure what font this is, but it's not Helvetica, Arial, Times New Roman or any of the arialveticverstesk combination.

Doesn't look like the MTO installed it though. Could be local or private.

Not my pic. Credit goes to the author.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 05, 2015, 07:07:58 PM
I always like seeing Series E for interstate numerals...wait this shield also appears to be a 2di. I love it even more now.

For what it's worth, this sign has been installed for a long time. I'm still not sure what the green-out covers.

(http://i.imgur.com/EN4zh0j.jpg)



https://www.flickr.com/photos/dougtone/4118984473/in/pool-canada-signs

Quite unique. Not even sure what font this is, but it's not Helvetica, Arial, Times New Roman or any of the arialveticverstesk combination.

Interesting. I imagine it might be a bit difficult to read from a distance with all the detail in the letters. I think that's why sans-serif fonts work so well on road signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on January 05, 2015, 07:31:42 PM
For what it's worth, this sign has been installed for a long time. I'm still not sure what the green-out covers.

(http://i.imgur.com/EN4zh0j.jpg)
http://www.interstate-guide.com/i-705_wa.html

(http://www.interstate-guide.com/images705/i-705_wa_st_12.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tom958 on January 05, 2015, 07:36:41 PM
(Why do we pronounce it "killahmahters" instead of "killometers"?)

Star Trek.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on January 05, 2015, 07:45:20 PM
No, that's why we say sabataage.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on January 05, 2015, 08:07:54 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/dougtone/4118984473/in/pool-canada-signs

Quite unique. Not even sure what font this is, but it's not Helvetica, Arial, Times New Roman or any of the arialveticverstesk combination.

Doesn't look like the MTO installed it though. Could be local or private.

Not my pic. Credit goes to the author.
That would be Optima. It was one of the first of the "humanist" family of fonts, which Clearview is a member of.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mhh on January 05, 2015, 10:31:27 PM
Signs like these debuted along the 402 in Sarnia, ON about a decade ago.  Queued US bound trucks were instructed not to block ramp lanes, and signs like these were installed at the end of each ramp in Sarnia.  Only this one remains:

(http://www.asphaltplanet.ca/ON/Ontroads/rampendshere.jpg)

Westbound Hwy. 402 in Sarnia has been widened from two lanes to four, and additional customs booths have been added on the American side (at Canadian expense), greatly reducing the length of traffic backups. I drive this route often and have noticed a huge difference.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 06, 2015, 12:20:01 AM
For what it's worth, this sign has been installed for a long time. I'm still not sure what the green-out covers.

http://www.interstate-guide.com/i-705_wa.html

You're getting at something but I'm not getting it. I know what the sign normally looks like (construction on the freeway portion of Highway 7 has it closed) but I want to know what used to be under the I-705 shield.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on January 06, 2015, 12:24:38 AM
Oops. I'm, er, orange-green colorblind. That's it.

Maybe it's just a faded I-705 shield.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 06, 2015, 12:43:45 AM
Oops. I'm, er, orange-green colorblind. That's it.

Maybe it's just a faded I-705 shield.

np m8. There's a lot of green-out in the area (this is an original, mostly untouched stretch of Interstate 5). Nearby signs like a BGS pointing towards SR-167 have a green-out covering US-410 (https://www.aaroads.com/west/washington005/i-005_nb_exit_135_02.jpg), which was decommissioned in 1967. I assume the sign with the 705 shield is from the same era.

Historic Aerials suggests a couple of options. Highway 509 ran along Pacific Avenue near Downtown Tacoma until I-705 was constructed in the early 90s (the last Interstate to be built in Washington). The map also shows Highway 16 along the same route at the same time. I don't know why the map would show that, however. I always thought that 16 had always been where it exists today (from the 16/5 interchange to just south of Bremerton).

Based on the fact that I-705 has only existed since 1990, I assume that the sign shows one of the above options, since a shield fading after only 15 years seems unlikely.

Historic Aerials Link (http://historicaerials.com?layer=T1976&zoom=14&lat=47.243638647630696&lon=-122.43885040283203)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kacie Jane on January 06, 2015, 11:31:30 AM
I have no proof, but I'm pretty sure when that sign originally went up, it had an error SR 705 shield, or at least one such sign in the area did. I think that's what's covered here.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kacie Jane on January 06, 2015, 01:36:13 PM
The map also shows Highway 16 along the same route at the same time. I don't know why the map would show that, however. I always thought that 16 had always been where it exists today (from the 16/5 interchange to just south of Bremerton).

Nope, definitely jives with what I thought.  While the 16 Freeway parallels Bantz Blvd (mostly no longer existant, since judging from those aerials/old topos, it was upgraded on the spot), before the freeway was completed, 16 (or pre-1964, PSH 14) followed 6th Avenue into downtown.

There's a lot of green-out in the area (this is an original, mostly untouched stretch of Interstate 5). Nearby signs like a BGS pointing towards SR-167 have a green-out covering US-410 (https://www.aaroads.com/west/washington005/i-005_nb_exit_135_02.jpg), which was decommissioned in 1967. I assume the sign with the 705 shield is from the same era.

Mostly untouched???  Even before construction around the 16 interchange started, sign replacement was rampant.  Not completely thorough, as you mention, but for every ancient sign that you point out, I'll point out half a dozen no older than a decade.  In another thread, we mentioned the new signs at 56th Street that use an ugly way too narrow font where they replaced Tacoma Mall Blvd with University Place as the "control city".  Signs at the next exit south now read "S 72 St/S 84 St" instead of "So. 72nd St./So. 84th St."  Any sign that has Gig Harbor in addition to Bremerton for SR 16 is relatively new, and not all such replacements were necessitated by the new interchange configuration.

Using the slider on GSV confirms that this sign is older than 2007, but I'm about 95% sure it's the one I'm thinking of that has an error shield underneath, and that it's no older than when I moved back to the general area in '04.  Definitely doesn't date to 1990.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 06, 2015, 07:43:27 PM
The map also shows Highway 16 along the same route at the same time. I don't know why the map would show that, however. I always thought that 16 had always been where it exists today (from the 16/5 interchange to just south of Bremerton).

Nope, definitely jives with what I thought.  While the 16 Freeway parallels Bantz Blvd (mostly no longer existant, since judging from those aerials/old topos, it was upgraded on the spot), before the freeway was completed, 16 (or pre-1964, PSH 14) followed 6th Avenue into downtown.

Speaking of Bantz Boulevard, it still exists, but only as a short one-way frontage road between 6th and Pearl. Sort of an interesting throwback on the part of WSDOT (since that frontage road was only built a few years ago). Looking at the old aerials of Tacoma, looks like Bantz was a regular at-grade intersection at 48th near Cheney Stadium as recently as 1990. Really quite difficult to imagine!

There's a lot of green-out in the area (this is an original, mostly untouched stretch of Interstate 5). Nearby signs like a BGS pointing towards SR-167 have a green-out covering US-410 (https://www.aaroads.com/west/washington005/i-005_nb_exit_135_02.jpg), which was decommissioned in 1967. I assume the sign with the 705 shield is from the same era.

Mostly untouched???  Even before construction around the 16 interchange started, sign replacement was rampant.  Not completely thorough, as you mention, but for every ancient sign that you point out, I'll point out half a dozen no older than a decade.  In another thread, we mentioned the new signs at 56th Street that use an ugly way too narrow font where they replaced Tacoma Mall Blvd with University Place as the "control city".  Signs at the next exit south now read "S 72 St/S 84 St" instead of "So. 72nd St./So. 84th St."  Any sign that has Gig Harbor in addition to Bremerton for SR 16 is relatively new, and not all such replacements were necessitated by the new interchange configuration.

Using the slider on GSV confirms that this sign is older than 2007, but I'm about 95% sure it's the one I'm thinking of that has an error shield underneath, and that it's no older than when I moved back to the general area in '04.  Definitely doesn't date to 1990.

I mean the section between 705 and 167. All of the signs along that stretch are ancient (the BGS for Portland Ave is button copy -- fairly certain it's one of the last remaining button copy freeway signs in the state). Though you might be right about the 705/7 exit only sign in question, since the exit-only plaque has a black border, which is something WSDOT only started doing about 20 years ago (maybe).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kacie Jane on January 07, 2015, 12:36:49 AM
I mean the section between 705 and 167. All of the signs along that stretch are ancient (the BGS for Portland Ave is button copy -- fairly certain it's one of the last remaining button copy freeway signs in the state). Though you might be right about the 705/7 exit only sign in question, since the exit-only plaque has a black border, which is something WSDOT only started doing about 20 years ago (maybe).


Ah, didn't realize you were taking specifically about such a small section.  Still, I think your statement might only apply to the northbound side.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PColumbus73 on January 07, 2015, 02:47:58 PM

ODOT in the recent years had to note every crossing of a city limit on a stretch of I-71 between exits 244 and 245 to denote what is in the city of Brooklyn and what is in the city of Cleveland.  It was moreso because the 2 cities were getting very anal about which city had to respond to calls on this stretch of freeway (talk about splitting hairs)

Look at how often I-71 crosses between the 2 cities in under a mile on this map: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Brooklyn,+OH/@41.447575,-81.7380672,16z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x8830ee468f9bf5f5:0x6cbe6346175e419a

and you'll see a small example of how ODOT had to respond to it:
(http://media.cleveland.com/roadrant_impact/photo/road-rant-cleveland-brooklyn-i-71-3d22a4e0aa808e1d.jpg)

This 25-30 foot section of Cleveland makes the 500-some foot section of I-71 through nearby Linndale look like you're crossing Delaware on I-95!!!


I would hate to see what would happen if a 53' semi trailer or larger would have an incident on this spot. How would the two cities cope???

Along those lines, Ohio also uses 'Enter Corp' and 'Leave Corp' signs for the same purposes, something I don't recall seeing in too many other places. As for your specific example, check this out:

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/12/24/7de56a11db01bf7cfaaa092d582c009c.jpg)

US 62 in Columbus / Franklin Township (red is the township.) Note in at least one spot the line goes down the middle of the road! I have heard of arguments over accidents where even the police don't know what jurisdiction is needed.

Whom ever is closest to the call should be the one to get it, regardless of jurisdiction. In regard to the Columbus/Franklin Township, I think the township should either incorporate into it's own town, or be absorbed into Columbus (or surrender the parts of the township that are discontinuous), or negotiate with the city on redrawing the boundary.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: busman_49 on January 09, 2015, 06:27:35 PM
Evendale, Ohio...note the use of the period:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7536/16214271836_f32b1a5c0c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qGNo7Y)US 42 sign, Evendale, OH (https://flic.kr/p/qGNo7Y) by Ryan busman_49 (https://www.flickr.com/people/23731450@N05/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kacie Jane on January 09, 2015, 06:49:41 PM
Using the slider on GSV confirms that this sign is older than 2007, but I'm about 95% sure it's the one I'm thinking of that has an error shield underneath, and that it's no older than when I moved back to the general area in '04.  Definitely doesn't date to 1990.

Jake, I'm on mobile (for the foreseeable future) so I can't provide a link, but if you look at the back of the sign in GSV, you can see a white sticker in the lower right corner that has the year the sign was put up. I can't zoom in far enough or get the right angle to get a clear shot, but it looks to me like it says 07.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 09, 2015, 07:03:22 PM
Using the slider on GSV confirms that this sign is older than 2007, but I'm about 95% sure it's the one I'm thinking of that has an error shield underneath, and that it's no older than when I moved back to the general area in '04.  Definitely doesn't date to 1990.

Jake, I'm on mobile (for the foreseeable future) so I can't provide a link, but if you look at the back of the sign in GSV, you can see a white sticker in the lower right corner that has the year the sign was put up. I can't zoom in far enough or get the right angle to get a clear shot, but it looks to me like it says 07.

Good thinking. 2002 (http://goo.gl/KUzJAX):

I would have never thought the sign was that new. Now I just want to contact the DOT and get an official answer (unless they ignore me like last time).

(http://i.imgur.com/dbzChpC.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kacie Jane on January 09, 2015, 07:20:17 PM
I was close... sort of... not really. (So it wasn't after I moved back, it was during the previous time I lived in Seattle...)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 09, 2015, 11:50:44 PM
I was close... sort of... not really. (So it wasn't after I moved back, it was during the previous time I lived in Seattle...)

I think, in road years, 2002 and 2004 are basically the same. So job well done.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bassoon1986 on January 15, 2015, 04:00:13 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.287973,-94.852325,3a,75y,73.12h,87.19t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s8yQ6mgk0-Zr6Od8wjTCx0Q!2e0

This is approaching the last southbound exit on I-45 in Galveston, TX. I've never seen a secondary destination sign for an exit with arrows for each one.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on January 15, 2015, 10:07:59 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.287973,-94.852325,3a,75y,73.12h,87.19t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s8yQ6mgk0-Zr6Od8wjTCx0Q!2e0

This is approaching the last southbound exit on I-45 in Galveston, TX. I've never seen a secondary destination sign for an exit with arrows for each one.

Those arrows were not necessary...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on January 16, 2015, 10:36:15 AM
Definitely unique.

(http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz298/midamcrossrds/UpperPeninsulaJune2006036.jpg) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/UpperPeninsulaJune2006036.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on January 16, 2015, 11:38:20 AM
Definitely unique.

(http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz298/midamcrossrds/UpperPeninsulaJune2006036.jpg) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/UpperPeninsulaJune2006036.jpg.html)

That's half as much as Paradise gets in an average year, but Paradise has no big sign about it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on January 16, 2015, 01:00:05 PM
I can't decide which thread is the right place for this one. Spotted it yesterday on Seminary Road in Alexandria, Virginia, and passed it again today, allowing me to get a picture.

The sign is trying to tell you that the far right lane (the one coming in from my right on the other side of the island) is an option lane at the traffic light up ahead past the dump truck, the left lane is left-only at the same light, and then beyond the light the left thru lane goes straight over the main overpass and the two lanes to the right of that split to the right onto a different overpass to provide access to I-395 northbound (via a left turn further up the road). Going straight through the light in the far right lane puts you in a lane leading to southbound I-395.

How effective the sign is at conveying all that, I don't know, given that I know the area well even with the current construction project. But the sign certainly seems to qualify as a strange one to me given how it appears to depict two right-turn-only lanes slamming into a straight-thru lane.

(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c378/1995hoo/Road%20sign%20pictures/fddb374ddfe4df9cb71eb0fea0cb1a89_zpsf55ebc6a.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on January 16, 2015, 11:16:51 PM
The sign layout is odd.

What they probably should have done was use two rows of arrows and some text to convey this.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on January 17, 2015, 11:23:00 AM
The sign layout is odd.

What they probably should have done was use two rows of arrows and some text to convey this.

Yeah, I found myself thinking of ways to depict it and I was thinking (1) something similar to the little island icon used on "keep right/left" or "divided highway begins/ends" signs ought to go between the vertical straight-ahead arrow and the right-turn arrows, (2) the two adjacent right-turn arrows should show a more gradual curve to them, (3) the straight portion of the option lane arrow should likewise be curved, and (4) the turn arrow for the option lane could either stay as-is or be more sharply angled.

Virginia isn't averse to using oddly-shaped arrows when needed, so the above could work here, but I'm not sure whether VDOT or the City of Alexandria posted this sign.

Of course, the sign will be replaced in a year or two when the overpass reconstruction (coupled with construction of a new HOV ramp) is done.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on January 18, 2015, 05:00:07 PM
Here are some odd signs in my school's parking lot:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7545/16125058720_d2cb03630f.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qyV9aN)One Way (https://flic.kr/p/qyV9aN) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7502/15692567243_60a2200c73.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pUGvwc)Do Not Enter (https://flic.kr/p/pUGvwc) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Pete from Boston on January 18, 2015, 05:39:01 PM
Does "One Way Only" imply that signs just reading "One Way" indicate one way of various ways you could choose? 

This really changes things.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: andy3175 on January 18, 2015, 10:54:14 PM
Here's a sign for 95 on a trail in the Columbia area. It's way up there!

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7581/15228587934_3041507e23_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pcGuCW)
Photo (https://flic.kr/p/pcGuCW) by Elliott Plack (https://www.flickr.com/people/88483799@N00/), on Flickr

I have increasingly seen signs like this on other trails that pass over/under a freeway. I've even started to see interpretive signs talking about the impact of the freeway (I don't have any pictures to share, but there's one in particular that I should photograph and post to show what I've found). I think this sort of thing is a growing trend.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on January 18, 2015, 11:25:25 PM
I didn't whether to post this in "Worst of" or "Best of". After all, it is one of the oldest signs around the city, but that patch...  X-(

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b551/slik_sh00ter/Interesting2_zps10dc11a7.jpg)

GMSV: http://goo.gl/maps/2Q05a
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Occidental Tourist on January 19, 2015, 12:04:27 PM
For what it's worth, this sign has been installed for a long time. I'm still not sure what the green-out covers.
(http://i.imgur.com/EN4zh0j.jpg)



I believe it was an SR 509 shield.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kacie Jane on January 19, 2015, 01:55:46 PM
I believe it was an SR 509 shield.


While 509 isn't that far away, and certainly might have been signed at this interchange before I-705 was a thing, now that we know the sign dates only to 2002, I find that highly unlikely.

While I have no proof (and I'm not sure how we might now be able legally obtain proof), I'd be willing to bet a small sum of money that it covers an erroneous SR 705 shield.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on January 19, 2015, 06:58:57 PM
I didn't whether to post this in "Worst of" or "Best of". After all, it is one of the oldest signs around the city, but that patch...  X-(

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b551/slik_sh00ter/Interesting2_zps10dc11a7.jpg)

GMSV: http://goo.gl/maps/2Q05a

I've seen similar on many older signs in Ohio.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Occidental Tourist on January 19, 2015, 07:40:27 PM
I believe it was an SR 509 shield.


While 509 isn't that far away, and certainly might have been signed at this interchange before I-705 was a thing, now that we know the sign dates only to 2002, I find that highly unlikely.

While I have no proof (and I'm not sure how we might now be able legally obtain proof), I'd be willing to bet a small sum of money that it covers an erroneous SR 705 shield.

If the sign dates to 2002, then I agree with you it's probably not 509.  My basis for assuming so was how they've signed this gantry on I-705.  I was guessing that while they were completing the freeway they had portions of it signed as 509.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3c/I-705_approaching_WA-509.jpg/1920px-I-705_approaching_WA-509.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bigboi00069 on January 19, 2015, 11:18:29 PM
Forgive me if this has been posted, but while driving south on I-39/90 in Illinois just south of the Wisconsin state line, i noticed an "Alcohol Limit" sign that says .08. At first glance it really confused me as it looks way too much like a real speed limit sign.

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4736187,-88.9952287,3a,45.3y,224.06h,84.14t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sPXxucoZQY9ba6u8lJrV1Tw!2e0
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on January 20, 2015, 12:46:14 AM
Here's a sign for 95 on a trail in the Columbia area. It's way up there!

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7581/15228587934_3041507e23_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pcGuCW)
Photo (https://flic.kr/p/pcGuCW) by Elliott Plack (https://www.flickr.com/people/88483799@N00/), on Flickr
Almost makes me wonder if there should be something similar on the Withlacoochee State Trail under I-75. Or perhaps even under US 41 in Inverness once that road is widened and the bridge is replaced.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on January 20, 2015, 10:25:07 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.475783,-83.887993,3a,37.5y,324.88h,89.51t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sc0fsWB9em8WfMmgGBiwJ6A!2e0
Check this one out with a missing arrow for Monticello 5. 

Is Monticello 5 miles to the right or left?

This sign should also be including Thomasville, GA as the ramp its for has Thomasville as one of its control cities.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: steviep24 on January 20, 2015, 11:31:20 AM
Some old text only BGSes on NY 252 in Rochester/Henrietta.

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.091001,-77.647141,3a,75y,102.09h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sODpQBbioEk-HP1xCe0YZLw!2e0?hl=en

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.08918,-77.641097,3a,75y,102.09h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1se1wotoCNSEqecSFNqsuoZA!2e0?hl=en

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.087138,-77.632033,3a,75y,281.43h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sTo4OHC1p4cDQXRsnNWRVbw!2e0?hl=en

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.089172,-77.640634,3a,75y,284.39h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sZi4iqenX1TKiRUnJXpBGrA!2e0?hl=en
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on January 20, 2015, 08:45:23 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.475783,-83.887993,3a,37.5y,324.88h,89.51t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sc0fsWB9em8WfMmgGBiwJ6A!2e0
Check this one out with a missing arrow for Monticello 5. 

Is Monticello 5 miles to the right or left?

This sign should also be including Thomasville, GA as the ramp its for has Thomasville as one of its control cities.

I have seen a sign around here somewhere where the one arrow...next to the control point on the bottom of the sign...was meant for both towns listed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on January 21, 2015, 02:04:28 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.475783,-83.887993,3a,37.5y,324.88h,89.51t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sc0fsWB9em8WfMmgGBiwJ6A!2e0
Check this one out with a missing arrow for Monticello 5. 

Is Monticello 5 miles to the right or left?

This sign should also be including Thomasville, GA as the ramp its for has Thomasville as one of its control cities.

Assuming the MUTCD is being followed and the arrow is just missing, Monticello should be straight ahead (or possibly also to the left). Distance and destination signs are recommended to have destinations listed in straight-left-right order from top to bottom, and the right arrow would be on the right side of the sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kacie Jane on January 21, 2015, 09:11:31 AM
My basis for assuming so was how they've signed this gantry on I-705.  I was guessing that while they were completing the freeway they had portions of it signed as 509.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3c/I-705_approaching_WA-509.jpg/1920px-I-705_approaching_WA-509.jpg)

I assume you're taking about the "reassurance markers" on either side. I see your point, but my assumption would be those aren't actually reassurance markers (that is, they are/were not intended to indicate that you're actually on 509 north). Rather, when combined with the HC signs, it's a nonstandard way of saying that hazardous cargo may (or perhaps must) take 509, particularly if they can't take the 11th Street Bridge.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on January 21, 2015, 10:05:13 PM
One of the few signs that I know of in the Tennessee Valley that doesn't use Clearview or Highway Gothic:
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.695756,-86.000906,3a,75y,116.34h,82.95t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1ssep-t2DBzwIRY95SG7FNoQ!2e0?hl=en
It's also the only Arial sign I know of in the Tennessee Valley, but I'm willing to bet that there is more out there.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on January 21, 2015, 10:18:52 PM
One of the few signs that I know of in the Tennessee Valley that doesn't use Clearview or Highway Gothic:
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.695756,-86.000906,3a,75y,116.34h,82.95t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1ssep-t2DBzwIRY95SG7FNoQ!2e0?hl=en
It's also the only Arial sign I know of in the Tennessee Valley, but I'm willing to bet that there is more out there.

 :-o That should be in worst. Even the signs around here don't look that bad.  :ded:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on January 22, 2015, 10:27:24 AM
One of the few signs that I know of in the Tennessee Valley that doesn't use Clearview or Highway Gothic:
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.695756,-86.000906,3a,75y,116.34h,82.95t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1ssep-t2DBzwIRY95SG7FNoQ!2e0?hl=en
It's also the only Arial sign I know of in the Tennessee Valley, but I'm willing to bet that there is more out there.

 :-o That should be in worst. Even the signs around here don't look that bad.  :ded:
I think it looks pretty ugly myself, but I wasn't sure if it was bad enough to go there.

Also, Gurley, AL has street name signs that are black with white lettering. At one end, there is a black "G" in a white square.
http://www.instantstreetview.com/2d3dkfz1rdl76zikzphzbf
Also, does anyone know what font they use? It looks similar to Times New Roman.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on January 22, 2015, 07:45:24 PM
Has anyone mentioned LA1 at Shreveport yet?
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3173/2474628761_f82d6b129f_z_d.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on January 22, 2015, 08:09:54 PM
Has anyone mentioned LA1 at Shreveport yet?
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3173/2474628761_f82d6b129f_z_d.jpg)

I think someone mentioned it somewhere in The Worst of Road Signs...oh yeah...you did a little over 4 years ago:  :sombrero:   :-D

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3173/2474628761_f82d6b129f_z_d.jpg)

LA 1 gets hit with the Ugly Stick in Shreveport

I haven't been down N. Market St. in a few years.  Is that ugly thing still there?  :hmmm:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bassoon1986 on January 23, 2015, 11:02:47 AM
^^^^^   (I didn't want to repost the ugly)

It's been gone a while now.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on January 23, 2015, 12:47:37 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.527594,-74.299006,3a,47.3y,187.7h,96.47t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1scLBaOVSNu1WUuJmTZnPsjw!2e0
The Garden State Parkway entrance ramp signs were always cool to me with that slanted side complementing the arrow as you can see here.  Right side entrance ramps would have the right side slanted of course, but nonetheless a Parkway trademark either way.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: renegade on January 24, 2015, 02:08:58 AM
The Garden State Parkway entrance ramp signs were always cool to me with that slanted side complementing the arrow as you can see here.  Right side entrance ramps would have the right side slanted of course, but nonetheless a Parkway trademark either way.

The Indiana Toll Road  and the Ohio Turnpike used to do that on their exit signs as well.  I always thought that was so cool.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on January 24, 2015, 01:02:15 PM
Never seen this before.

http://goo.gl/maps/DIkkp

Looks like the MTO pulled off a CalTrans or something.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: AsphaltPlanet on January 24, 2015, 01:36:48 PM
Never seen this before.

http://goo.gl/maps/DIkkp

Looks like the MTO pulled off a CalTrans or something.

Those are quite common in Ontario now:

(http://www.AsphaltPlanet.ca/ON/hwy_402-403_images/403_dv_108-5_east_Oct14.jpg)

I've been told that the reason for the integrated tab has to do with wind loading.

Hwy 407 ETR uses its own unique partial gantry design along the tollway which does have a normal tab.  407 considers this gantry design to be propriety and will not share the design with the MTO.

(http://www.AsphaltPlanet.ca/ON/hwy_407-409_images/407_dv_32-5_east_May14.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on January 24, 2015, 04:31:06 PM
The Garden State Parkway entrance ramp signs were always cool to me with that slanted side complementing the arrow as you can see here.  Right side entrance ramps would have the right side slanted of course, but nonetheless a Parkway trademark either way.

The Indiana Toll Road  and the Ohio Turnpike used to do that on their exit signs as well.  I always thought that was so cool.
Ontario does on the QEW gore EXIT signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: AsphaltPlanet on January 24, 2015, 04:47:30 PM
Ontario does on the QEW gore EXIT signs.

Ontario used to use trapezoidal exit signs, but no longer does:

(http://asphaltplanet.ca/ON/vintage/401/1989/North_York/401_75.jpg)

(http://www.asphaltplanet.ca/ON/Ontroads/Exit_96A.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on January 25, 2015, 10:28:02 AM
Bad, but very unique along Arsenal Road near Elwood, IL:

(http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz298/midamcrossrds/100_4871_zpspkieaxu2.jpg) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4871_zpspkieaxu2.jpg.html)

Interesting no outlet diamond in Chicago:

(http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz298/midamcrossrds/100_4849_zpsgwaviovb.jpg) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4849_zpsgwaviovb.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on January 25, 2015, 07:11:20 PM
I'm impressed with the "To I-295" signage at a Wawa in West Deptford, NJ.  Used the proper FHWA fonts; even made the N larger in North.

But why red?

(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd144/roadnut/EFEC0E85-1CDF-4FBB-A99D-B7216FB90554.jpg) (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/roadnut/media/EFEC0E85-1CDF-4FBB-A99D-B7216FB90554.jpg.html)

(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd144/roadnut/5C7ABB33-B645-4BCB-A010-B9807FAFE689.jpg) (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/roadnut/media/5C7ABB33-B645-4BCB-A010-B9807FAFE689.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ekt8750 on January 26, 2015, 07:04:00 PM
Some good and bad/ugly here.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7441/15754283884_a2f436f696_b.jpg)

Good: Nice looking 3dUS shield (dunno why people here seem to hate them), the PA SR marker just below the arrow. Around these parts of the Commonwealth at least, they usually don't post them on surface US and state highways.

Bad: Just out of the shot is the other half of the sign set pointing to US 202 North. I guess there wasn't enough room to put both signs together?

Ugly: That Helvetica Black sign blade. Just gross.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tom958 on January 26, 2015, 07:16:45 PM
If the signpost was leaning to the left instead of the right, then the letters on the diamond might be level.  :rolleyes:
(http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz298/midamcrossrds/100_4871_zpspkieaxu2.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Joe The Dragon on January 26, 2015, 10:01:53 PM
on rand rd just past golf there is an old 294 sign

https://goo.gl/maps/MiiHO
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on January 26, 2015, 10:29:11 PM
I've spotted a few of these around Huntsville for the past several months, just finally got a photo of one:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7445/16376771892_0e87976771.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qXaeJ5)End School Speed Limit (https://flic.kr/p/qXaeJ5) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on January 27, 2015, 09:30:41 AM
on rand rd just past golf there is an old 294 sign

https://goo.gl/maps/MiiHO

lolwut
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on January 27, 2015, 12:46:22 PM
I've spotted a few of these around Huntsville for the past several months, just finally got a photo of one:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7445/16376771892_0e87976771.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qXaeJ5)End School Speed Limit (https://flic.kr/p/qXaeJ5) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
They're starting to pop up in NY.  I think they're now a part of the MUTCD.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on January 27, 2015, 05:11:41 PM
Something tells me that this wasn't put up by MassDOT...

http://goo.gl/maps/qbtTf
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mass_citizen on January 27, 2015, 05:14:12 PM
looks like something put up by the city under the category of "wayfinding" signage.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on January 27, 2015, 05:17:15 PM
looks like something put up by the city under the category of "wayfinding" signage.

That's what I would think as well. They are all over Worcester it seems. Here's another one... (http://goo.gl/maps/vV9Ro)

Their signs remind me of Airport-style signage honestly.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on January 27, 2015, 05:22:47 PM
Ah, Worcestignage (pronounced wuss-tine-ij). Part of their purpose seems to be getting traffic off Main Street.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on January 27, 2015, 09:56:47 PM
I've spotted a few of these around Huntsville for the past several months, just finally got a photo of one:
End School Speed Limit (https://flic.kr/p/qXaeJ5) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
They're starting to pop up in NY.  I think they're now a part of the MUTCD.

Yep. Sign code S5-3, introduced in the 2009 MUTCD.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on January 27, 2015, 10:03:28 PM
I already miss the art deco Exit 6 gantry on the NJ Turnpike.  Thanks to the 6-9 widening project a historical figure is now gone for good.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on January 27, 2015, 11:01:51 PM
I've seen quite a few of these interesting assemblies (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.233079,-79.846331,3a,49y,274.27h,83.85t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s9zS65lj__sP1KUo3lFo_Xw!2e0) in Pennsylvania. Somewhat analogous to New York's "End xx limit" signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on January 28, 2015, 10:47:28 AM
Why is the exit tab so large? :hmmm:
http://www.instantstreetview.com/2cmlh5z1rkn9ez1ckzv1z8k

Are there any other BGSs where the exit tab is larger than the sign?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on January 28, 2015, 11:06:15 AM
Why is the exit tab so large? :hmmm:
http://www.instantstreetview.com/2cmlh5z1rkn9ez1ckzv1z8k

Are there any other BGSs where the exit tab is larger than the sign?
Guess on my part (somebody from the area can either confirm/correct/clarify), but that exit tab was likely added later.  Had it been fabricated/erected at the same time as the main BGS; the width of the main panel would've been made to match the width of the wider exit tab.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on January 28, 2015, 11:50:07 AM
Wider than the sign, sure. Larger, no.

The one seen here is a good example of "wider." As a bonus, the exit tab contains an ampersand. (You can see another identical sign in the background.)

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.794001,-77.151114,3a,75y,273.8h,88.35t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s8klvYXIaOze_zwKyh8ILpg!2e0
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on January 28, 2015, 12:15:34 PM
Larger width-wise then. :-P
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on January 28, 2015, 01:21:27 PM
I've seen a number of signs in Virginia where the exit number tab is wider than the sign itself.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on January 28, 2015, 02:31:33 PM
I've seen a number of signs in Virginia where the exit number tab is wider than the sign itself.
Downside of having 3-digit exit numbers (4 if one includes the letter-suffix).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Alex on January 28, 2015, 02:47:28 PM
Larger width-wise then. :-P

The worst example that comes to mind to me is this sign on I-10 east in Florida:

(https://www.aaroads.com/southeast/florida010/i-010_eb_exit_233_04.jpg) (https://www.aaroads.com/southeast/florida010/i-010_eb_exit_233_04.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on January 28, 2015, 11:54:48 PM
I find this one interesting: http://goo.gl/maps/xXAib

It replaced this one: http://goo.gl/maps/Qfzxi
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Stratuscaster on January 29, 2015, 09:51:21 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/dR5JI

https://goo.gl/maps/8egNw
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on January 30, 2015, 09:54:20 AM
http://goo.gl/maps/j2AHj

I don't really understand why Massachusetts refuses to use the appropriate banners for the shield size - they are specified in the MUTCD (one for 24x24, 36x36, and 48x48), so my only guess would be to save money (the larger the banner the more it costs?). But that's not really the problem with this sign, it's more-so the fact that the banner (as small as it may be) is completely off-center compared to the US 1 shield.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman on January 30, 2015, 10:30:30 AM
http://goo.gl/maps/j2AHj

I don't really understand why Massachusetts refuses to use the appropriate banners for the shield size - they are specified in the MUTCD (one for 24x24, 36x36, and 48x48), so my only guess would be to save money (the larger the banner the more it costs?). But that's not really the problem with this sign, it's more-so the fact that the banner (as small as it may be) is completely off-center compared to the US 1 shield.
IIRC, the larger banner size for 48" x 48" shields is a recent addition to the MUTCD.  It's a detail that will hopefully be incorporated into future MassDOT sign upgrade projects.   As for the banner being off-center, that's due to the posts that are used.  Centering the banner on the shield would require a special cross-member, which may affect the breakaway capability of the posts.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman on January 30, 2015, 10:35:07 AM
Something tells me that this wasn't put up by MassDOT...

http://goo.gl/maps/qbtTf
Correct.  These signs were put up by the CIty of Worcester under their "Gateway" project.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on January 30, 2015, 01:47:04 PM
I don't really understand why Massachusetts refuses to use the appropriate banners for the shield size
I saw similar reassurance marker assemblies for NJ 24; so MA isn't the only state guilty of such.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on January 30, 2015, 02:32:31 PM
Something tells me that this wasn't put up by MassDOT...

http://goo.gl/maps/qbtTf
Correct.  These signs were put up by the CIty of Worcester under their "Gateway" project.
When was that project? The signs were definitely up by 2001.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on January 30, 2015, 02:57:23 PM
I don't really understand why Massachusetts refuses to use the appropriate banners for the shield size
I saw similar reassurance marker assemblies for NJ 24; so MA isn't the only state guilty of such.

Massachusetts is definitely not the only state who does it, but I've seen a lot of instances of this in Massachusetts compared to other states.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman on January 30, 2015, 03:02:45 PM
Something tells me that this wasn't put up by MassDOT...

http://goo.gl/maps/qbtTf
Correct.  These signs were put up by the CIty of Worcester under their "Gateway" project.
When was that project? The signs were definitely up by 2001.
Gateway 1 (as the project was officially called) was completed about 1997 or 1998.  I recall being in Kelley Square shortly thereafter and noting how the MassHighway spec entrance sign to I-290 a half mile from me was more legible than the City's Gateway sign located only 500 feet from me.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on January 30, 2015, 03:14:49 PM
I wish they would've used a different typeface (oh, and larger shields). I think it's cool Worcester put up their own signs, but that purpose is defeated if they are less legible than normal DOT signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 30, 2015, 03:22:27 PM
Something tells me that this wasn't put up by MassDOT...

http://goo.gl/maps/qbtTf

Correct.  These signs were put up by the CIty of Worcester under their "Gateway" project.

When was that project? The signs were definitely up by 2001.

Gateway 1 (as the project was officially called) was completed about 1997 or 1998.  I recall being in Kelley Square shortly thereafter and noting how the MassHighway spec entrance sign to I-290 a half mile from me was more legible than the City's Gateway sign located only 500 feet from me.

Speaking of Kelley Square, that might just be the nuttiest intersection I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on January 30, 2015, 04:04:07 PM
Lincoln Square is nuttier, with its essentially useless tunnel. It made a lot more sense when it was northbound-only with access to Salisbury, Prescott, and Lincoln.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 30, 2015, 04:29:50 PM
Lincoln Square is nuttier, with its essentially useless tunnel. It made a lot more sense when it was northbound-only with access to Salisbury, Prescott, and Lincoln.

I'll admit, that tunnel looks like a waste, but Kelley Square looks like an absolute clusterfuck. At least Lincoln Square has some order to it. From what I've read about the Kelley Square, you don't even stop at the stop signs (you just keep going, since its Boston Massachusetts, and offensive driving is the only driving).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on January 30, 2015, 04:33:04 PM
Zeffy,

Not sure if this was already mentioned or commented on on this thread or elsewhere; but for one traffic signal project, the engineer/designer got a little creative with using large shields but small cardinal banners and direction arrows.

One advance trailblazer assembly approaching the traffic signal (further down). (http://goo.gl/maps/IBBj8)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on January 30, 2015, 05:03:45 PM
Zeffy,

Not sure if this was already mentioned or commented on on this thread or elsewhere; but for one traffic signal project, the engineer/designer got a little creative with using large shields but small cardinal banners and direction arrows.

One advance trailblazer assembly approaching the traffic signal (further down). (http://goo.gl/maps/IBBj8)

Ugh, it just looks so out of proportion.  :ded:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on January 30, 2015, 07:47:00 PM
Zeffy,

Not sure if this was already mentioned or commented on on this thread or elsewhere; but for one traffic signal project, the engineer/designer got a little creative with using large shields but small cardinal banners and direction arrows.

One advance trailblazer assembly approaching the traffic signal (further down). (http://goo.gl/maps/IBBj8)

Ugh, it just looks so out of proportion.  :ded:

I don't think it looks that bad.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on February 01, 2015, 01:01:14 PM
http://goo.gl/maps/Wu9IV

Never seen this sign before, but it looks old.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: AsphaltPlanet on February 01, 2015, 04:00:25 PM
^ Signs like those were the standard in Ontario until the '90s.  Ontario redid a lot of its signs during the 1990s when bilingual signage was first introduced in the GTA.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: amroad17 on February 01, 2015, 05:24:20 PM
Larger width-wise then. :-P

The worst example that comes to mind to me is this sign on I-10 east in Florida:

(https://www.aaroads.com/southeast/florida010/i-010_eb_exit_233_04.jpg) (https://www.aaroads.com/southeast/florida010/i-010_eb_exit_233_04.jpg)
Cannot be helped when the main exit sign only has a secondary or county route shield.  Exit 19 along I-77 in Virginia north of Hillsville is similar to this.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 01, 2015, 05:50:27 PM
Larger width-wise then. :-P

The worst example that comes to mind to me is this sign on I-10 east in Florida:


Cannot be helped when the main exit sign only has a secondary or county route shield.  Exit 19 along I-77 in Virginia north of Hillsville is similar to this.

I'm pretty sure you can help it ... You just make the sign wider.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: adventurernumber1 on February 01, 2015, 06:08:58 PM
Larger width-wise then. :-P

The worst example that comes to mind to me is this sign on I-10 east in Florida:


Cannot be helped when the main exit sign only has a secondary or county route shield.  Exit 19 along I-77 in Virginia north of Hillsville is similar to this.

I'm pretty sure you can help it ... You just make the sign wider.

I can second that. I must say that BGS is very tiny  :-P

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: odditude on February 02, 2015, 09:41:30 AM
Larger width-wise then. :-P

The worst example that comes to mind to me is this sign on I-10 east in Florida:


Cannot be helped when the main exit sign only has a secondary or county route shield.  Exit 19 along I-77 in Virginia north of Hillsville is similar to this.

I'm pretty sure you can help it ... You just make the sign wider.
...as exemplified here (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.286887,-74.747813,3a,75y,90h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1shjvtQ4q9Mfd-EK8kecY6MA!2e0).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on February 02, 2015, 10:19:34 AM
...as exemplified here (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.286887,-74.747813,3a,75y,90h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1shjvtQ4q9Mfd-EK8kecY6MA!2e0).

Of course, here is an example where Trenton and Princeton should be signed (or Lawrenceville instead of Princeton) . Not sure why the advance signs before 1/2 a mile omit this.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on February 02, 2015, 10:32:20 AM
...as exemplified here (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.286887,-74.747813,3a,75y,90h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1shjvtQ4q9Mfd-EK8kecY6MA!2e0).
Of course, here is an example where Trenton and Princeton should be signed (or Lawrenceville instead of Princeton) . Not sure why the advance signs before 1/2 a mile omit this.
In Milford, CT; signage for the US 1 interchange w/I-95 (Exits 39A-B) (http://goo.gl/maps/ubKCQ) show no listed destinations whatsoever nor street name(s) for either direction of US 1.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: odditude on February 02, 2015, 01:17:48 PM
...as exemplified here (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.286887,-74.747813,3a,75y,90h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1shjvtQ4q9Mfd-EK8kecY6MA!2e0).

Of course, here is an example where Trenton and Princeton should be signed (or Lawrenceville instead of Princeton) . Not sure why the advance signs before 1/2 a mile omit this.
the actual exits (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.285876,-74.736167,3a,75y,90h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sm3H9RDhpmOiBaEId2V_brA!2e0) are 206 SOUTH / Trenton and 206 NORTH / Lawrenceville / Princeton.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: national highway 1 on February 03, 2015, 06:41:06 AM
This sign in the foreground with the differing fonts:
(http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz122/njroadfan/Best%20Of/P5050007_zps863c9afc.jpg~original)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 03, 2015, 12:18:49 PM
I thought that image was from Toronto for a few moments.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on February 03, 2015, 12:21:20 PM
I thought that image was from Toronto for a few moments.

GARDEN STATE PARKWAY should have been the obvious clue where it was from.  :-P
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 03, 2015, 12:25:21 PM
I thought that image was from Toronto for a few moments.

GARDEN STATE PARKWAY should have been the obvious clue where it was from.  :-P

Well I saw that after a few seconds, but everything else to me reads "Ontario"...longer than normal lane lines, shoulders with lighter-colored pavement, 4 carriageways, exit lanes that form another lane before they exit, deciduous trees, and so on.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on February 03, 2015, 12:32:34 PM
Another tip-off it's not Toronto is the use of green signs over both carriageways. Ontario would have green over the one and blue over the other.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on February 03, 2015, 12:38:09 PM
I thought that image was from Toronto for a few moments.

GARDEN STATE PARKWAY should have been the obvious clue where it was from.  :-P

Well I saw that after a few seconds, but everything else to me reads "Ontario"...longer than normal lane lines, shoulders with lighter-colored pavement, 4 carriageways, exit lanes that form another lane before they exit, deciduous trees, and so on.

That could hold true elsewhere on the east coast. Ontario uses standard-length lines. In actuality, MTO practices are relatively similar to those of New York, New England, and PennDOT except for a few minor differences. Same cannot be said for PTA, NJTA, Suffolk County DPW, Buffalo DPW, Indiana Toll Road...

Tapered deceleration ramps are rare out here in general, with most DOTs and toll authorities forming an extra lane. Other than the GSP, the real hints that this is not Ontario are:

1. Green signs on outer carriageway. Ontario uses blue on local lanes for clarity (a good idea, IMO).
2. No high-mast lighting. 4-lane sections are pretty much limited to Toronto and all are well-lit.

Another tip-off it's not Toronto is the use of green signs over both carriageways. Ontario would have green over the one and blue over the other.

Beat me to it
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: KEK Inc. on February 03, 2015, 01:04:24 PM
Not to beat a dead horse, but the NJ Turnpike uses 6" wide lane stripes, where Ontario uses the standard 4" (10 cm).  NJTA decided to use 25' long striping with 25' gaps for visibility purposes with long trucks, but I think the standard 10' long striping / 30' gap would have sufficed. 

Street-lighting and gantry design is my general cue at where something is at. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on February 03, 2015, 08:45:42 PM
Not to beat a dead horse, but the NJ Turnpike uses 6" wide lane stripes, where Ontario uses the standard 4" (10 cm).  NJTA decided to use 25' long striping with 25' gaps for visibility purposes with long trucks, but I think the standard 10' long striping / 30' gap would have sufficed. 

Street-lighting and gantry design is my general cue at where something is at. 

However, the lane lines used by the NJTP are the same as used by ISTHA.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on February 03, 2015, 08:49:43 PM
This (http://goo.gl/maps/wxO2c) sign has rather fat arrows. I'm not sure if I like it more or dislike it more...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on February 03, 2015, 09:25:57 PM
This (http://goo.gl/maps/wxO2c) sign has rather fat arrows. I'm not sure if I like it more or dislike it more...

You probably like it more than this one: http://goo.gl/maps/YCg2A

Your post reminded me of that sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: riiga on February 05, 2015, 08:38:13 AM
This odd sign has been up for about five years now. It's a little off with everything, but despite telling them about it (4˝ years ago!), the municipality hasn't corrected the sign. To the right is my illustration of what a proper sign should look like. Notice how the typeface and colors are a bit off, while the arrows look almost, but just almost correct.
(https://www.lysator.liu.se/~riiga/Bilder/Foton/felaktig-skylt.jpg)(https://www.lysator.liu.se/~riiga/Bilder/Foton/korrekt-skylt.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 05, 2015, 02:25:34 PM
This odd sign has been up for about five years now. It's a little off with everything, but despite telling them about it (4˝ years ago!), the municipality hasn't corrected the sign. To the right is my illustration of what a proper sign should look like. Notice how the typeface and colors are a bit off, while the arrows look almost, but just almost correct.

A local variation of the same issue. Everything is correct, but just slightly different:

(http://i.imgur.com/bAHxV1T.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on February 05, 2015, 09:05:36 PM
Is that Transport?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on February 05, 2015, 09:21:50 PM
Is that Transport?

Definitely not transport; doesn't look like DIN Mittelschrift either.

Where is that? Very unique.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Pete from Boston on February 05, 2015, 09:39:07 PM
At Harvard, even the construction is genteel and cultured:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7406/16452093771_1733243666.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on February 05, 2015, 09:58:54 PM
This odd sign has been up for about five years now. It's a little off with everything, but despite telling them about it (4˝ years ago!), the municipality hasn't corrected the sign. To the right is my illustration of what a proper sign should look like. Notice how the typeface and colors are a bit off, while the arrows look almost, but just almost correct.

A local variation of the same issue. Everything is correct, but just slightly different:

(http://i.imgur.com/bAHxV1T.jpg)

The font is SNV. Used in many eastern European countries.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SNV_%28typeface%29

There's this one in Ontario:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2c/Opeongo_Road_signs.jpg
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 06, 2015, 03:06:07 AM
This odd sign has been up for about five years now. It's a little off with everything, but despite telling them about it (4˝ years ago!), the municipality hasn't corrected the sign. To the right is my illustration of what a proper sign should look like. Notice how the typeface and colors are a bit off, while the arrows look almost, but just almost correct.

A local variation of the same issue. Everything is correct, but just slightly different:

http://i.imgur.com/bAHxV1T.jpg

The font is SNV. Used in many eastern European countries.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SNV_%28typeface%29

There's this one in Ontario:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2c/Opeongo_Road_signs.jpg

Very cool. I've always wondered what the font was. I can see now that the "a" gives it away.

The sign is just north of Arlington, Washington along WA-530, about an hour north of Seattle (GMSV (http://goo.gl/Ea6CYY)).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on February 06, 2015, 10:12:10 AM
despite telling them about it (4˝ years ago!), the municipality hasn't corrected the sign

Honestly, I would have ignored the request too, since the existing signs are almost exactly like the mock-ups you posted.  I have to stand on my head and squint to tell the difference.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: steviep24 on February 06, 2015, 05:31:19 PM
Drove by this one today. Older NY route shield with a different font.
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.142847,-77.736028,3a,37.5y,189.03h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1spdyUWuaezGf6Dwsk3WNhhQ!2e0!6m1!1e1?hl=en

Probably won't be there for long. Although it is still signed as NY 386 Coldwater Rd. is maintained by Monroe County along with other parts of NY 386 that were transferred to the county.


Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on February 06, 2015, 07:13:42 PM
In my experience, non-state maintained roads in NY are MORE likely to have old signs, not less.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on February 06, 2015, 08:42:49 PM
Old-school direction arrow (though the arrowhead's a bit small) going through the I-95 shield applied to a relatively-new MassDOT D6 "Paddle" sign (http://goo.gl/maps/wDJbP) in Waltham.  Another old-school attribute of this LGS is that it's 2-sided (pan the attached link).  For newer installations, MassDOT typically installs two separate single-sided D6 panels.

The lower D8 panel is somewhat oddly configured as well with the small upright arrow and the squeezing in of both the local & distant destinations.  For 2-destination listings, either a larger D8 panel (such has been done elsewhere) or a separate D6 installation for the I-95 South LGS would've been better IMHO.

Fortunately, since this installation is at a signalized intersection for a conventional roadway; normal traffic won't be traveling at a high rate of speed so the current D8 panel with the smallish arrow & lettering should suffice.

District 4 strikes again - probably a knockdown was replaced under either Accident Recovery or the sign maintenance contract, and they likely based the replacement legend off of an old sign card.
Update: I drove by that area over the long holiday weekend; new LGS' have since replaced the older-style LGS'.

While that one is now gone; there's another old-school layout on a fairly new D6 Paddle LGS (http://goo.gl/maps/zWb8Q) further north in Newburyport (at Exit 57 along MA 113).

Roadman, unless the districts were changed since the 1980s; Essex County's in District 5; so one can't blame District 4 for this one.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NYhwyfan on February 07, 2015, 10:17:53 AM
New York State Route 265 square shield - City of Tonawanda, NY
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.016238,-78.878941,3a,75y,24.71h,91.33t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sZTBS_UJI-dqoQfbxlztiLw!2e0

Instead of asking the NYSDOT to post a sign or replace one must have taken upon themselves to make their own
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PurdueBill on February 07, 2015, 12:03:35 PM
Tonawanda only knows how to make rectangular shields.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/63/Infamous_Tonawanda_Squares.jpg)
New York State Route 265 square shield - City of Tonawanda, NY
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.016238,-78.878941,3a,75y,24.71h,91.33t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sZTBS_UJI-dqoQfbxlztiLw!2e0

Instead of asking the NYSDOT to post a sign or replace one must have taken upon themselves to make their own
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on February 07, 2015, 01:39:31 PM
Tonawanda only knows how to make rectangular shields.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/63/Infamous_Tonawanda_Squares.jpg)

Apparently, they also don't know what color to paint edge lines on bike paths...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on February 07, 2015, 02:38:36 PM
Tonawanda is a city at the spot where the erected the square 265 shield, so signage is, unfortunately, their responsibility (NYSDOT rarely maintains anything in cities that isn't limited access).  Could we please teleport them to New England?  At least then their state route shields would be right...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kniwt on February 07, 2015, 05:39:08 PM
Alpine Road near Stanford University. Bizarrely perpendicular to the road (no cross streets nearby).
(http://i.imgur.com/gnSSk0s.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on February 07, 2015, 06:06:03 PM
^^ That one takes the cake!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on February 07, 2015, 08:26:07 PM
Alpine Road near Stanford University. Bizarrely perpendicular to the road (no cross streets nearby).
(http://i.imgur.com/gnSSk0s.jpg)

How about this?

http://goo.gl/maps/iNlZ3

Perpendicular to the road, with no cross street. Is it an advisory sign, or a speed limit sign? We'll never know.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on February 07, 2015, 10:38:04 PM
How about this?

http://goo.gl/maps/iNlZ3

Perpendicular to the road, with no cross street. Is it an advisory sign, or a speed limit sign? We'll never know.

If you move up and rotate the image, there is a "gravel road" beside it.  Maybe??   :bigass:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on February 08, 2015, 11:14:57 PM
In my experience, non-state maintained roads in NY are MORE likely to have old signs, not less.

Generally true, but until very recently, a stretch of NY 78 in Wyoming County had some stuff that was easily 40-50+ years old, including one of the last state route shields with NY in the hump. Sadly, that gem went away last summer. Wyoming County has done a major countywide signage upgrade to comply with the 2009 MUTCD, including replacing just about every all-uppercase name blade with mixed-case, making it so many county- or town-maintained highways have much newer signage than what is state-maintained, possibly due to the remote location. Actually, R4 and R6 in general have a boatload of old signs scattered around, while R1 and R5 replace anything with a speck of dust.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bzakharin on February 09, 2015, 11:26:19 AM
This sign in the foreground with the differing fonts:
(http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz122/njroadfan/Best%20Of/P5050007_zps863c9afc.jpg~original)
That's intentional. PARKWAY is really the most important piece of information on that sign, since in NJ, it is "the parkway".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on February 09, 2015, 06:18:02 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.059514,-75.326033,3a,15.7y,72.02h,96.7t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sF27zz3GdR0SHzp-fVbnW6g!2e0

Interesting only in the regard that Conshohocken is listed after Philadelphia, when it should be before (if destination legends have a rule that the cities should be listed in the order they are reached).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on February 09, 2015, 06:28:19 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.059514,-75.326033,3a,15.7y,72.02h,96.7t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sF27zz3GdR0SHzp-fVbnW6g!2e0

Interesting only in the regard that Conshohocken is listed after Philadelphia, when it should be before (if destination legends have a rule that the cities should be listed in the order they are reached).
PennDOT's logic (and I use that term very loosely) is that the destinations are listed in the same sequence as the route shields.

In all fairness, PennDOT isn't the only one that does such.  Note: this BGS (http://goo.gl/maps/ZOl6R) in Burlington, MA where Winchester (the US 3 South destination) is closer than Peabody (the I-95 North destination).

This BGS (http://goo.gl/maps/IXZ52) shows that PennDOT did occasionally use Series C or D fonts for destinations.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on February 10, 2015, 09:56:10 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.093198,-75.305603,3a,15y,258.19h,90.19t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s_SIoRw395CWFiqvHwdD3aQ!2e0

Center-aligned exit tab. The sign itself looks pretty recent too! Unfortunately, if you try and get closer to it, you'll notice that the sign has been removed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on February 10, 2015, 12:07:58 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.093198,-75.305603,3a,15y,258.19h,90.19t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s_SIoRw395CWFiqvHwdD3aQ!2e0

Center-aligned exit tab. The sign itself looks pretty recent too! Unfortunately, if you try and get closer to it, you'll notice that the sign has been removed.
If memory serves, that particular BGS (the old one) was an early 90s replacement for the original 70s-era porcelain BGS (that featured button-copy lettering but not for the I-76 shield) that was damaged/destroyed in an accident.  The center-aligned tab was a match-in-kind for the original BGS.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: akotchi on February 10, 2015, 01:03:51 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.059514,-75.326033,3a,15.7y,72.02h,96.7t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sF27zz3GdR0SHzp-fVbnW6g!2e0

Interesting only in the regard that Conshohocken is listed after Philadelphia, when it should be before (if destination legends have a rule that the cities should be listed in the order they are reached).
PennDOT's logic (and I use that term very loosely) is that the destinations are listed in the same sequence as the route shields.

In all fairness, PennDOT isn't the only one that does such.  Note: this BGS (http://goo.gl/maps/ZOl6R) in Burlington, MA where Winchester (the US 3 South destination) is closer than Peabody (the I-95 North destination).

This BGS (http://goo.gl/maps/IXZ52) shows that PennDOT did occasionally use Series C or D fonts for destinations.
In both of those cases, the destination of the higher-order highway (the Interstate in both cases) is listed first.  Perhaps that is the reasoning, but I do not think that practice is required.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kniwt on February 12, 2015, 12:55:35 AM
New in Hayward, Calif.:
(http://i.imgur.com/RekvHjB.jpg)

Story here:
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2015/02/11/snarky-road-signs-hayward-speeding-drivers-pedestrians-facebook/
Quote
To get people’s attention, the city has put up a few new signs that are a bit snarky. Along with the posted speed limit, one of the signs also reads “It’s a speed limit, not a suggestion.” Another sign gives helpful advice about driving down a hill.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on February 12, 2015, 01:03:57 AM
Already posted here: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=14734
But that's really a fork of this thread, since 'quirky' fits under 'unique, odd, or interesting'.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on February 12, 2015, 10:12:51 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/LFh8ahz.png) (http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=36.054338,-98.807387&spn=0.024877,0.049567&t=m&z=15&layer=c&cbll=36.054935,-98.816141&panoid=yUN-ijn9Y82dXgUH-9XtWg&cbp=12,19.08,,2,6.29)
No comment.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: odditude on February 13, 2015, 08:30:50 AM
[image]
No comment.
the bolt head makes it look like a lowercase "i", for added silly.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on February 13, 2015, 08:57:12 AM
At least they worded it correctly. Lots of people these days seem to think "Drive Safe" is correct.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on February 13, 2015, 09:12:28 PM
Is this common?

http://goo.gl/maps/8rg8X
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 15, 2015, 04:09:00 AM
Is this common?

http://goo.gl/maps/8rg8X

It has the standard BC dashed border (indicating a truck-related sign), but I don't see the sign in any of the sign chapters (as published by the BCMOT).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 16, 2015, 02:11:36 PM
Just outside Victoria BC. Should be somewhat self explanatory as to what the arrow means (based on the environment visible (HINT: right turn doesn't stop)), I've just never seen it used for a stop sign before (the plaque is supposed to be used under a yield sign, per the BCMOT roundabout signing manual (http://goo.gl/ovzawJ) (page 4)).

(http://i.imgur.com/eoxR5W2.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on February 17, 2015, 03:04:24 AM
Also, Gurley, AL has street name signs that are black with white lettering. At one end, there is a black "G" in a white square.
http://www.instantstreetview.com/2d3dkfz1rdl76zikzphzbf
Also, does anyone know what font they use? It looks similar to Times New Roman.

The font for the street name is Goudy. The "G" is Century Schoolbook.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on February 17, 2015, 12:35:38 PM
Also, Gurley, AL has street name signs that are black with white lettering. At one end, there is a black "G" in a white square.
http://www.instantstreetview.com/2d3dkfz1rdl76zikzphzbf
Also, does anyone know what font they use? It looks similar to Times New Roman.

The font for the street name is Goudy. The "G" is Century Schoolbook.
Ah, okay. Thanks!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on February 17, 2015, 09:41:48 PM
Borderless "No Left Turn" sign at a hospital here in Huntsville. I'm not sure if this counts as a "design error" or not:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7347/16380296227_41e5aa3c88.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qXtiot)Borderless No Left Turn Sign (https://flic.kr/p/qXtiot) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

And right across the driveway it's at is this rather weird sign:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7423/16378758190_4c00c29804.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qXkqbA)Strange Exit Sign (https://flic.kr/p/qXkqbA) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: busman_49 on February 20, 2015, 07:50:48 AM
Buried on a side street of a small west central Ohio town:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7405/13776471574_8cab6b7927.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/mZo22Y)P1030553 (https://flic.kr/p/mZo22Y) by Ryan busman_49 (https://www.flickr.com/people/23731450@N05/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 20, 2015, 03:00:52 PM
This photo was not taken in Oregon, but rather in Washington, and it's of a sign that was installed three weeks ago:

(http://i.imgur.com/Cl7Sliw.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: dcbjms on February 21, 2015, 07:08:44 AM
Well that solves the problem of "does the speed limit still apply during summer school?".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on February 21, 2015, 11:53:11 AM
This photo was not taken in Oregon, but rather in Washington, and it's of a sign that was installed three weeks ago:

(http://i.imgur.com/Cl7Sliw.jpg)

What defines "when children are present" though? If their is one child 50 m away from the sign, does that mean motorists now have to go 20?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 21, 2015, 01:01:00 PM
This photo was not taken in Oregon, but rather in Washington, and it's of a sign that was installed three weeks ago:

What defines "when children are present" though? If their is one child 50 m away from the sign, does that mean motorists now have to go 20?

Well, there's nothing written in stone. Supposedly it's when they're walking around outside the school. If you drive by and the kids are playing in the yard, generally you're safe. If you fly by at 40 while the kids are showing up to school, you're probably gonna get a ticket though. In general, cops don't patrol these zones. Most school zones are flashing. Some didn't have any signs and that's why these went up.



I want to make it clear that I posted the photo of the above sign because it omits the word "LIMIT" a la Oregon.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 6a on February 21, 2015, 04:25:55 PM

Buried on a side street of a small west central Ohio town:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7405/13776471574_8cab6b7927.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/mZo22Y)P1030553 (https://flic.kr/p/mZo22Y) by Ryan busman_49 (https://www.flickr.com/people/23731450@N05/), on Flickr
Where is that?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on February 21, 2015, 09:04:25 PM
This US 72 shield seems to be a bit off for some reason:
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8609/16419850848_b0a53ec19d.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/r1Y2AG)US 231/US 431/ US 72 (https://flic.kr/p/r1Y2AG) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on February 21, 2015, 09:40:42 PM
It's a squished wide shield. But what they squished isn't quite the same as the perfect '70-spec shields next to it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on February 22, 2015, 12:19:54 AM
In Hopewell, Virginia:
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.298005,-77.278403,3a,15y,9.04h,93.15t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s04qoWY4i9kaZNNZ20IxMXA!2e0
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Neddyfram on February 22, 2015, 02:44:05 AM
This US 72 shield seems to be a bit off for some reason:
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8609/16419850848_b0a53ec19d.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/r1Y2AG)US 231/US 431/ US 72 (https://flic.kr/p/r1Y2AG) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
For some reason that US72's sign's sticking-out parts at the top of the shield reminds me of the devil...

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7150/6602560053_4c0e7a2b58_z_d.jpg)
Ugly fonts in Oklahoma

That US64 sign looks cool with that font.

Just outside Victoria BC. Should be somewhat self explanatory as to what the arrow means (based on the environment visible (HINT: right turn doesn't stop)), I've just never seen it used for a stop sign before (the plaque is supposed to be used under a yield sign, per the BCMOT roundabout signing manual (http://goo.gl/ovzawJ) (page 4)).

(http://i.imgur.com/eoxR5W2.png)
Another thing I noticed is that's a British styled arrow
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 22, 2015, 03:07:50 AM
Just outside Victoria BC. Should be somewhat self explanatory as to what the arrow means (based on the environment visible (HINT: right turn doesn't stop)), I've just never seen it used for a stop sign before (the plaque is supposed to be used under a yield sign, per the BCMOT roundabout signing manual (http://goo.gl/ovzawJ) (page 4)).

Another thing I noticed is that's a British styled arrow

Hardly surprising -- about 6-tenths are natives of the British isles (including me).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 22, 2015, 05:20:15 PM
I know the image is utter shit (dashcam footage FTW) but here's a sign I saw that doesn't seem to correspond to any sort of established signing standard, though I still like it:

(http://i.imgur.com/mxorzGm.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: dcbjms on February 23, 2015, 12:45:19 AM
School crossing colors for pedestrian crossings?  Now that's interesting, for sure.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: busman_49 on February 23, 2015, 09:01:51 AM

Buried on a side street of a small west central Ohio town:
<snip>
Where is that?

Arcanum, Ohio
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on February 23, 2015, 08:29:45 PM
This US 72 shield seems to be a bit off for some reason:
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8609/16419850848_b0a53ec19d.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/r1Y2AG)US 231/US 431/ US 72 (https://flic.kr/p/r1Y2AG) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

Looks like it came from the world of Monsters, Inc.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on February 25, 2015, 11:41:05 PM
I know the image is utter shit (dashcam footage FTW) but here's a sign I saw that doesn't seem to correspond to any sort of established signing standard, though I still like it:

(http://i.imgur.com/mxorzGm.png)

There is a standard sign in the 2009 MUTCD, "turning vehicles yield to pedestrians" sign (R10-15) that is substantially similar to the intent of this sign. Subbing the yield symbol for a stop symbol would exactly duplicate the meaning of this.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on February 26, 2015, 05:26:43 PM
I can't decide which thread is the right place for this one. Spotted it yesterday on Seminary Road in Alexandria, Virginia, and passed it again today, allowing me to get a picture.

The sign is trying to tell you that the far right lane (the one coming in from my right on the other side of the island) is an option lane at the traffic light up ahead past the dump truck, the left lane is left-only at the same light, and then beyond the light the left thru lane goes straight over the main overpass and the two lanes to the right of that split to the right onto a different overpass to provide access to I-395 northbound (via a left turn further up the road). Going straight through the light in the far right lane puts you in a lane leading to southbound I-395.

How effective the sign is at conveying all that, I don't know, given that I know the area well even with the current construction project. But the sign certainly seems to qualify as a strange one to me given how it appears to depict two right-turn-only lanes slamming into a straight-thru lane.

(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c378/1995hoo/Road%20sign%20pictures/fddb374ddfe4df9cb71eb0fea0cb1a89_zpsf55ebc6a.jpg)

I posted the above in January. I just passed that sign again today and found it has been modified. The new version, seen below, is more accurate but is still weird-looking. I didn't report the old sign to VDOT or to the City of Alexandria, so I have no idea whether someone complained or whether there was a crash or whatever.

(The sign in this picture is actually in the background of the first picture to the right of the dump truck, but both signs were and are identical. I just had an easier time getting a picture of the second one today while stopped at the red light. There was enough traffic that I couldn't really slow down to get a picture of the first sign.)

(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c378/1995hoo/Road%20sign%20pictures/9f106997fdd195f88a933dcffc0768e0_zpsa6e3e5eb.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on February 26, 2015, 08:48:09 PM
And that sign overhangs the sidewalk.  Doesn't look like a problem here, but it seemed worth pointing out as this issue has been discussed in the Poor Placement thread.

Regarding the sign itself, I would make sure the right turn arrow shafts have long straight segments below the curves, and the left turn arrow curves left very near the bottom of the sign, at the same height of the lower branch of the rightmost arrow. Also, the two leftmost right arrows should maybe curve less than the one to their right, if those lanes indeed go to different places.

Or, alternatively, use standard signs that only deal with one intersection at a time, and use small guide signs on span wire before the first intersection for lane assignment beyond that intersection.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: HTM Duke on February 27, 2015, 04:12:03 AM
I've known for a while about a AAA-installed wayfinding sign in Alexandria, VA, located at the intersection of Prince & Commerce Streets. (https://www.google.com/maps?ll=38.805035,-77.052569&spn=0.002625,0.013078&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=38.805034,-77.05462&panoid=ElCgM_9-axNkvSE5ZCzSHw&cbp=11,295.73,,1,10.38)  What I didn't know about until recently that there were two more remaining (3 in total left of out of the original 21, circa 1930's), located at S Pitt & Wolfe Streets (https://www.google.com/maps?q=s+pitt+and+wolfe+&hl=en&ll=38.801499,-77.045681&spn=0.002625,0.013078&sll=38.801356,-77.045467&layer=c&cbp=11,54.31,,1,7.25&cbll=38.801381,-77.045672&hnear=S+Pitt+St+%26+Wolfe+St,+Alexandria,+Virginia+22314&t=m&z=17&panoid=a35H967hjjwBA21Pb-tNVA) and Cameron & N Columbus Streets. (https://goo.gl/maps/5ltRa)  Here's a short blog article (http://jay.typepad.com/william_jay/2010/07/old-town-alexandria-historical-plaques-aaa-road-signs.html) about the history, along with non-street view images of the first and third signs.  Definitely not flashy, but easily some of the oldest wayfinding signage left in Virginia.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on February 27, 2015, 09:12:08 AM
I've known for a while about a AAA-installed wayfinding sign in Alexandria, VA, located at the intersection of Prince & Commerce Streets. (https://www.google.com/maps?ll=38.805035,-77.052569&spn=0.002625,0.013078&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=38.805034,-77.05462&panoid=ElCgM_9-axNkvSE5ZCzSHw&cbp=11,295.73,,1,10.38)  What I didn't know about until recently that there were two more remaining (3 in total left of out of the original 21, circa 1930's), located at S Pitt & Wolfe Streets (https://www.google.com/maps?q=s+pitt+and+wolfe+&hl=en&ll=38.801499,-77.045681&spn=0.002625,0.013078&sll=38.801356,-77.045467&layer=c&cbp=11,54.31,,1,7.25&cbll=38.801381,-77.045672&hnear=S+Pitt+St+%26+Wolfe+St,+Alexandria,+Virginia+22314&t=m&z=17&panoid=a35H967hjjwBA21Pb-tNVA) and Cameron & N Columbus Streets. (https://goo.gl/maps/5ltRa)  Here's a short blog article (http://jay.typepad.com/william_jay/2010/07/old-town-alexandria-historical-plaques-aaa-road-signs.html) about the history, along with non-street view images of the first and third signs.  Definitely not flashy, but easily some of the oldest wayfinding signage left in Virginia.

Damn. All the times I've driven through Old Town and I've never noticed any of these (recognizing when I use Commerce Street it's usually night and I'm looking for a parking space and not paying attention to road signs). Thanks for posting that.

There's a lot of interesting historical stuff to be found in Old Town dating back to colonial times. One I recall from the fourth-grade Virginia history program many years ago was "gossip mirrors" on houses (essentially a mirror hangs from an upstairs window so the resident can see who's outside on the sidewalk). But aside from the cutouts on US-1, this is the first I recall historic road signs, and these are more in keeping with the "historic" theme than the cutouts are.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on February 27, 2015, 04:24:15 PM
Something tells me that this sign assembly (https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=44.837206,-69.285977&spn=0.18,0.3&cbll=44.837206,-69.285977&layer=c&panoid=zlhaccaISkqBc5GD7OiA5A&cbp=,125.31,,0,3.949997&output=classic&dg=ntvb) is not state spec'd.  Interesting-looking US 2 shield & font.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on February 27, 2015, 04:38:54 PM
Interesting-looking US 2 shield & font.

I disagree - that looks like Helvetica, and the shield itself is nasty looking. Blehhhhhhh!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on February 27, 2015, 07:45:09 PM
Interesting-looking US 2 shield & font.

I disagree - that looks like Helvetica, and the shield itself is nasty looking. Blehhhhhhh!

Yup, non-standard for sure. I don't recall a large white border on the edges of US hwy signs either. I don't understand why so many signs use Helvetica. There are many other fonts out there (not including highway fonts) that look waayy better than Helvetica IMO.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on February 28, 2015, 12:17:01 AM
http://goo.gl/maps/xUfSt

Definitely a MUTCD violation, but not worst for sure, not a design error of any type, so I'll post it here. Looks like something you'd see out of New Brunswick.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on February 28, 2015, 12:41:42 AM
I think a significant deviation from whatever MUTCD was in effect when the sign was designed is automatically a design error.  This is… a poorly designed correction to an erroneous sign?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on February 28, 2015, 01:57:19 PM
I haven't seen a "low clearance" sign with this large of a height anywhere else, so...
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8656/16467029937_aee336b30e.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/r68Qig)23.5 Foot Clearance (https://flic.kr/p/r68Qig) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
This is located on one of the supports for the pedestrian bridge behind my school.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on February 28, 2015, 02:03:16 PM
^^ So no railroad track there?  23' min from the top of the track is the recommended clearance for a bridge over a railroad.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on February 28, 2015, 02:05:02 PM
^^ So no railroad track there?  23' min from the top of the track is the recommended clearance for a bridge over a railroad.
There is a Norfolk Southern line right next to the school, but I don't see why they had to put a sign for drivers in the school's parking lot warning them about the height though.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TEG24601 on February 28, 2015, 03:33:27 PM
^^ So no railroad track there?  23' min from the top of the track is the recommended clearance for a bridge over a railroad.
There is a Norfolk Southern line right next to the school, but I don't see why they had to put a sign for drivers in the school's parking lot warning them about the height though.


Perhaps they decided to be cute like MDOT and put one on every bloddy bridge, including the top of a 4 level stack so show how high the top roadway is from the bottom.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on February 28, 2015, 06:53:42 PM
I haven't seen a "low clearance" sign with this large of a height anywhere else, so...
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8656/16467029937_aee336b30e.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/r68Qig)23.5 Foot Clearance (https://flic.kr/p/r68Qig) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
This is located on one of the supports for the pedestrian bridge behind my school.

This goes back 30 years, but I seem to recall many high-low clearance signs along I-40 in Texas.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: KEK Inc. on February 28, 2015, 08:12:34 PM
I haven't seen a "low clearance" sign with this large of a height anywhere else, so...
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8656/16467029937_aee336b30e.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/r68Qig)23.5 Foot Clearance (https://flic.kr/p/r68Qig) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
This is located on one of the supports for the pedestrian bridge behind my school.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7083/6921028234_89bbfe6ac7_b.jpg)
(from my flickr)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on March 01, 2015, 10:49:38 AM
I haven't seen a "low clearance" sign with this large of a height anywhere else, so...
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8656/16467029937_aee336b30e.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/r68Qig)23.5 Foot Clearance (https://flic.kr/p/r68Qig) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
This is located on one of the supports for the pedestrian bridge behind my school.

Why are the feet in Series C and the inches in Series D?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: busman_49 on March 03, 2015, 08:41:15 AM
I like the setup of the I-71 pull-through, though some may argue that it isn't quite right.  Also digging the exit 17 sign mounted to the bridge:
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8613/16693160621_808ca0a936.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rr7P5a)I-71 NB at I-275, Cincinnati, OH (05) (https://flic.kr/p/rr7P5a) by Ryan busman_49 (https://www.flickr.com/people/23731450@N05/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on March 03, 2015, 04:12:55 PM
I like the setup of the I-71 pull-through, though some may argue that it isn't quite right.  Also digging the exit 17 sign mounted to the bridge:
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8613/16693160621_808ca0a936.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rr7P5a)I-71 NB at I-275, Cincinnati, OH (05) (https://flic.kr/p/rr7P5a) by Ryan busman_49 (https://www.flickr.com/people/23731450@N05/), on Flickr

Dancing arrows. The geniuses [/sarcasm] who wrote the current MUTCD think that's confusing to drivers.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 6a on March 03, 2015, 04:15:32 PM
Perhaps this comes from living in Ohio, proud home of dancing arrows, but I don't see a big problem with that sign. Why use one three times wider just to convey the same information?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 03, 2015, 05:18:20 PM
It just looks lazy to me. Like they accidentally made the sign too narrow and had to accommodate their fuck-up by rotating the arrows.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on March 03, 2015, 05:31:18 PM
They accidentally frugally made the sign too narrow no wider than it needed to be and had to accommodate their fuck-up point clearly at the correct lanes by rotating the arrows.

Fixed for you.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 03, 2015, 06:06:58 PM
Crazy Ohioans and your lazily placed arrows. There's a reason they aren't allowed anymore.

 :bigass:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on March 03, 2015, 07:39:19 PM
Crazy Ohioans and your lazily placed arrows. There's a reason they aren't allowed anymore.

 :bigass:

Yep. Because somebody, or a group of somebodies, at FHWA is anal-retentive.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: machias on March 03, 2015, 08:22:01 PM
Crazy Ohioans and your lazily placed arrows. There's a reason they aren't allowed anymore.

 :bigass:

Yep. Because somebody, or a group of somebodies, at FHWA is anal-retentive.

I completely agree with you. Motorists that can't figure out the lanes indicated by dancing arrows probably shouldn't be behind the wheel of a car.  There were some interesting dancing arrows signs in the Oklahoma City area quite a few years ago but I haven't been able to find the signs on Google maps.  The signs indicated the left two lanes, but the sign was over the left shoulder with two dancing arrows pointing downward to the right.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 03, 2015, 08:38:21 PM
Crazy Ohioans and your lazily placed arrows. There's a reason they aren't allowed anymore.

 :bigass:

Yep. Because somebody, or a group of somebodies, at FHWA is anal-retentive.

I completely agree with you. Motorists that can't figure out the lanes indicated by dancing arrows probably shouldn't be behind the wheel of a car.  There were some interesting dancing arrows signs in the Oklahoma City area quite a few years ago but I haven't been able to find the signs on Google maps.  The signs indicated the left two lanes, but the sign was over the left shoulder with two dancing arrows pointing downward to the right.

No argument about roads is complete without somebody claiming "if a driver can't understand **fill in the blank** they shouldn't have a licence". The point is, there's superior alternatives that cost a hair more -- the cost reduction from using dancing arrows is semantics. Be frugal, not cheap.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: machias on March 03, 2015, 09:35:33 PM
Here's the dancing arrows sign in Oklahoma I was talking about before. Courtesy of okhighways.com
(http://www.okhighways.com/041103/i235exit1e.JPG)

I believe that there are a lot of projects, not just signing projects, but upkeep of highways in general, that need to be done immediately. Crumbling bridges, poor pavement conditions, bottlenecks from inadequate capacity, all of it. Saving money in signing practices, even if it's reducing the size of signs that span the entire width of the highway just so the arrows are centered over a lane, contributes to making more funds available for other crucial highway projects.



Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on March 03, 2015, 09:42:59 PM
Crazy Ohioans and your lazily placed arrows. There's a reason they aren't allowed anymore.

 :bigass:

Yep. Because somebody, or a group of somebodies, at FHWA is anal-retentive.

I completely agree with you. Motorists that can't figure out the lanes indicated by dancing arrows probably shouldn't be behind the wheel of a car.  There were some interesting dancing arrows signs in the Oklahoma City area quite a few years ago but I haven't been able to find the signs on Google maps.  The signs indicated the left two lanes, but the sign was over the left shoulder with two dancing arrows pointing downward to the right.

No argument about roads is complete without somebody claiming "if a driver can't understand **fill in the blank** they shouldn't have a licence". The point is, there's superior alternatives that cost a hair more -- the cost reduction from using dancing arrows is semantics. Be frugal, not cheap.

The thing with dancing arrows is also that they were rarely (if ever used) in the northeast and other regions. Out here, downward-slanting arrows meant the same thing as upward-slanting arrows, except they were used if the main movement curved. I remember going somewhere with the dancing arrows for the first time and it took my parents (both of whom went to grad school) a while to figure out (as in they had to reach the gore). The decision distance is too short.

That's part of why they were banned altogether: downward-slanting arrows have different meanings in different parts of the country and it's best to limit confusion. Heck, two down arrows over the same lane is probably better than the slants because that notation was used over a larger part of the country and there's less room for interpretation.

The posted OK example should have just used a pull-through or had the other 2 signs shifted 12 feet to the right. From the point of the everyday driver not used to such notation, it may be confusing, especially if they're familiar with the old NYSDOT use of downward slants.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on March 03, 2015, 09:48:32 PM
Here's the dancing arrows sign in Oklahoma I was talking about before. Courtesy of okhighways.com
(http://www.okhighways.com/041103/i235exit1e.JPG)

That exit direction sign is badly placed.  Where's the exit?  Move that sign to wherever the hell exit 2E actually is, and move the other signs to the right a bit.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: machias on March 03, 2015, 09:55:07 PM
Here's the dancing arrows sign in Oklahoma I was talking about before. Courtesy of okhighways.com
(http://www.okhighways.com/041103/i235exit1e.JPG)

That exit direction sign is badly placed.  Where's the exit?  Move that sign to wherever the hell exit 2E actually is, and move the other signs to the right a bit.

Honestly I don't think that having arrows on the pull-thru is necessary.  That'd be the ideal, no arrows at all.

Personally I think NYSDOT did the dancing arrows the right way: usually at the gore, showing a higher speed ramp or split.

Instead of banning dancing arrows altogether, the MUTCD should specify their use instead of resorting to monstrous signs that span the ever increasing number of lanes in roadways.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on March 03, 2015, 09:59:06 PM
Personally I think NYSDOT did the dancing arrows the right way: usually at the gore, showing a higher speed ramp or split.
I think NYSDOT did dancing arrow avoidance the right way:
(http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ny/i-787/s.jpg)
from http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ny/i-787/
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: machias on March 03, 2015, 10:02:48 PM
Personally I think NYSDOT did the dancing arrows the right way: usually at the gore, showing a higher speed ramp or split.
I think NYSDOT did dancing arrow avoidance the right way:
(http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ny/i-787/s.jpg)
from http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ny/i-787/

I agree. I'd much rather see this instead of all that extra green space just to make a rectangular sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on March 03, 2015, 11:44:37 PM
I've known for a while about a AAA-installed wayfinding sign in Alexandria, VA, located at the intersection of Prince & Commerce Streets. (https://www.google.com/maps?ll=38.805035,-77.052569&spn=0.002625,0.013078&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=38.805034,-77.05462&panoid=ElCgM_9-axNkvSE5ZCzSHw&cbp=11,295.73,,1,10.38)  What I didn't know about until recently that there were two more remaining (3 in total left of out of the original 21, circa 1930's), located at S Pitt & Wolfe Streets (https://www.google.com/maps?q=s+pitt+and+wolfe+&hl=en&ll=38.801499,-77.045681&spn=0.002625,0.013078&sll=38.801356,-77.045467&layer=c&cbp=11,54.31,,1,7.25&cbll=38.801381,-77.045672&hnear=S+Pitt+St+%26+Wolfe+St,+Alexandria,+Virginia+22314&t=m&z=17&panoid=a35H967hjjwBA21Pb-tNVA) and Cameron & N Columbus Streets. (https://goo.gl/maps/5ltRa)  Here's a short blog article (http://jay.typepad.com/william_jay/2010/07/old-town-alexandria-historical-plaques-aaa-road-signs.html) about the history, along with non-street view images of the first and third signs.  Definitely not flashy, but easily some of the oldest wayfinding signage left in Virginia.

Damn. All the times I've driven through Old Town and I've never noticed any of these (recognizing when I use Commerce Street it's usually night and I'm looking for a parking space and not paying attention to road signs). Thanks for posting that.

There's a lot of interesting historical stuff to be found in Old Town dating back to colonial times. One I recall from the fourth-grade Virginia history program many years ago was "gossip mirrors" on houses (essentially a mirror hangs from an upstairs window so the resident can see who's outside on the sidewalk). But aside from the cutouts on US-1, this is the first I recall historic road signs, and these are more in keeping with the "historic" theme than the cutouts are.

The Prince/Commerce sign is pretty interesting.  Mileage signs to Winchester and New Market (both towns are along the I-81 corridor).  My guess is that the routing tells people to go along Commerce Street which runs into Duke.  Duke Street becomes Little River Turnpike and gets you into Fairfax.  In Fairfax, you can continue straight along what is now US 50 towards Winchester.  Or you can follow what is now "Lee Highway" (pre-Civil War known as Warrenton Road, now the US 29 to US 211) to New Market.   

It's interesting that they chose to highlight relatively far away cities.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 03, 2015, 11:49:46 PM
Personally I think NYSDOT did the dancing arrows the right way: usually at the gore, showing a higher speed ramp or split.

I think NYSDOT did dancing arrow avoidance the right way:
(http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ny/i-787/s.jpg)
from http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ny/i-787/

I agree. I'd much rather see this instead of all that extra green space just to make a rectangular sign.

Hmm. I don't know what to think about that sign.

Here's an alternative that might shave costs:

(http://i.imgur.com/TrXb4o2.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on March 04, 2015, 12:05:51 AM
Not a road sign, but might as well be:

http://goo.gl/maps/tHdGA

Looks official to me  :clap:

2 km north of the US border in BC.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: HTM Duke on March 04, 2015, 01:08:34 AM
I can't say that I've ever seen an angled wayfinding sign anywhere else in Virginia.

VA-249 near Quntion, VA. (https://goo.gl/maps/Z4hUW)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PurdueBill on March 04, 2015, 10:48:28 AM
The top-hat design on the 787 sign (specimens exist(ed) also on I-87 in NY iIrc, and I-95 in MA) is clear and saves metal and wind load.  The ODOT I-71 sign with "dancing" arrows as shown should not be a problem either.  There are no lanes sharing arrows which is the place where dancing arrows are usually (and liberally) used in Ohio.  There really isn't much wrong with that sign at all.  If the MUTCD police were to demand an immediate correction, I'd just take off the arrows for spite and leave it as a pull-through without arrows.  The exit-only lanes are clearly marked and departing already. 

Some of the anal retentive things in the MUTCD are really annoying.  How do they cook? Like this guy?
(http://www.codiekitty.com/File/Quickies/2012/philhartman.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on March 04, 2015, 11:08:42 AM
I can't say that I've ever seen an angled wayfinding sign anywhere else in Virginia.

VA-249 near Quntion, VA. (https://goo.gl/maps/Z4hUW)
This used to be a standard for parks and such.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on March 04, 2015, 11:41:15 AM
I can't say that I've ever seen an angled wayfinding sign anywhere else in Virginia.

VA-249 near Quntion, VA. (https://goo.gl/maps/Z4hUW)
This used to be a standard for parks and such.
Alabama has several of these, and they still use them to an extent.
This one (and another one just up the road) replaced some button-copy ones of the same design:
http://www.instantstreetview.com/@34.588363,-86.980379,-9.97h,11.38p,3z
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on March 04, 2015, 11:45:00 AM
I know this is a double post, but these AL 20 shields seem to be a bit off:
http://www.instantstreetview.com/@34.60905,-86.977785,45.34h,9.19p,2z

To me, it appears that they used a 3di shields.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on March 04, 2015, 12:06:51 PM
I saw the white sign seen here in a dashcam video posted on a YouTube channel to which I subscribe, so I asked the guy where it was. The sign in question is the white sign on the median. I found it interesting simply because I do not ever recall having seen such a sign. Maybe they're common out west?

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.139328,-117.093403,3a,75y,39.45h,73.93t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sUz9Ub9BEJTo82UeAHM6bew!2e0
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on March 04, 2015, 12:48:58 PM
I saw the white sign seen here in a dashcam video posted on a YouTube channel to which I subscribe, so I asked the guy where it was. The sign in question is the white sign on the median. I found it interesting simply because I do not ever recall having seen such a sign. Maybe they're common out west?

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.139328,-117.093403,3a,75y,39.45h,73.93t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sUz9Ub9BEJTo82UeAHM6bew!2e0

We have something similar here, though I don't recall many others:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.505806,-74.845533,3a,57.6y,67.99h,91.02t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s3mQZR_B6AUIxO56RIij3ww!2e0
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on March 04, 2015, 12:52:02 PM
Seems like a slightly modified version of the standard lane control sign, indicating what each lane is for.  In NJ they usually show a line between each arrow showing the lane divisions, but otherwise I always thought it was a fairly normal sign at intersections. (Like what Zeffy posted)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 04, 2015, 01:10:07 PM
Is it the location of the sign or the sign itself? I'm very familiar with this version of the lane control sign, but I don't usually see it posted in the central median.

EDIT: Just down the street from me:

(http://i.imgur.com/U6IJClP.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on March 04, 2015, 01:17:20 PM
Personally I think NYSDOT did the dancing arrows the right way: usually at the gore, showing a higher speed ramp or split.
I think NYSDOT did dancing arrow avoidance the right way:
(http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ny/i-787/s.jpg)
from http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ny/i-787/

Yeah, I like that one and the other examples I've seen from New York.

As for the Oklahoma example posted, the exit sign for 1E needs to be mounted on the bridge, since that's where it appears the exit ramp actually begins.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on March 04, 2015, 02:21:21 PM
Is it the location of the sign or the sign itself? I'm very familiar with this version of the lane control sign, but I don't usually see it posted in the central median.

....

It was the sign itself I found interesting. I had not seen one that looked like that before. The style Zeffy linked looks more typical of what I'm used to seeing, although I can't say off the top of my head I've seen one with a U-turn arrow of that sort (although, having said that, I should acknowledge the weird-looking arrows on the sign outside the Holiday Inn on Eisenhower Avenue in Alexandria: https://www.google.com/maps/@38.801469,-77.073071,3a,75y,359.09h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s_UegbTPEd4rPovajWvBX6Q!2e0 )

Given your location, maybe it's more of a West Coast thing in general? The furthest south I've ever been on the West Coast is YVR Airport.



Regarding dancing arrows, there's this monstrosity in Maryland that provides an extreme example:

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.798236,-77.019072,3a,75y,149.98h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sjGqTlv14IHCmpDdWyTdkiA!2e0
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: myosh_tino on March 04, 2015, 03:01:05 PM
I saw the white sign seen here in a dashcam video posted on a YouTube channel to which I subscribe, so I asked the guy where it was. The sign in question is the white sign on the median. I found it interesting simply because I do not ever recall having seen such a sign. Maybe they're common out west?

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.139328,-117.093403,3a,75y,39.45h,73.93t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sUz9Ub9BEJTo82UeAHM6bew!2e0

We have something similar here, though I don't recall many others:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.505806,-74.845533,3a,57.6y,67.99h,91.02t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s3mQZR_B6AUIxO56RIij3ww!2e0

AFAIK, the sign 1995hoo is talking about is definitely a California thing as it carries its own sign code, R73-5 (spec can be found at www.dot.ca.gov/hq/traffops/engineering/control-devices/specs/R73-5.pdf) and Caltrans notes that it does not have a MUTCD equivalent.  It's possible the sign has been adopted by other states but I am not 100% sure about that.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 04, 2015, 03:09:54 PM
I saw the white sign seen here in a dashcam video posted on a YouTube channel to which I subscribe, so I asked the guy where it was. The sign in question is the white sign on the median. I found it interesting simply because I do not ever recall having seen such a sign. Maybe they're common out west?

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.139328,-117.093403,3a,75y,39.45h,73.93t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sUz9Ub9BEJTo82UeAHM6bew!2e0

We have something similar here, though I don't recall many others:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.505806,-74.845533,3a,57.6y,67.99h,91.02t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s3mQZR_B6AUIxO56RIij3ww!2e0

AFAIK, the sign 1995hoo is talking about is definitely a California thing as it carries its own sign code, R73-5 (spec can be found at www.dot.ca.gov/hq/traffops/engineering/control-devices/specs/R73-5.pdf) and Caltrans notes that it does not have a MUTCD equivalent.  It's possible the sign has been adopted by other states but I am not 100% sure about that.

Most definitely. In Washington, when there is two left turn lanes and one lane allows U-turns, this is the only sign (so far as I know) that is used.
Title: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 6a on March 04, 2015, 05:40:19 PM
This is an extreme example, I know...

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/04/da4455883c797d0f1c915d619823dd4a.jpg)

Edit: some version of that u-turn sign has been popping up here in a handful of places they're actually allowed

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/04/54b06b37968d814165b3bd25982649c8.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: djsinco on March 04, 2015, 05:57:57 PM
This is an extreme example, I know...

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/04/da4455883c797d0f1c915d619823dd4a.jpg)

Edit: some version of that u-turn sign has been popping up here in a handful of places they're actually allowed

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/04/54b06b37968d814165b3bd25982649c8.jpg)
Until I realized that truck was being towed, I thought it was going the wrong way!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on March 04, 2015, 06:52:18 PM
This is an extreme example, I know...

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/04/da4455883c797d0f1c915d619823dd4a.jpg)

Yeah, I remember seeing those things. Until the mid-2000s, there was an Exit Only sign for US 33 East over on the EB side a couple miles east of here with a down arrow slanting to the left (until the patch seen here was installed (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.935054,-82.934862,3a,73.5y,171.36h,82.86t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sDhdrxebhAdzyqWgZol_mcw!2e0)).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on March 05, 2015, 02:24:19 AM
I saw the white sign seen here in a dashcam video posted on a YouTube channel to which I subscribe, so I asked the guy where it was. The sign in question is the white sign on the median. I found it interesting simply because I do not ever recall having seen such a sign. Maybe they're common out west?

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.139328,-117.093403,3a,75y,39.45h,73.93t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sUz9Ub9BEJTo82UeAHM6bew!2e0

We have something similar here, though I don't recall many others:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.505806,-74.845533,3a,57.6y,67.99h,91.02t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s3mQZR_B6AUIxO56RIij3ww!2e0

AFAIK, the sign 1995hoo is talking about is definitely a California thing as it carries its own sign code, R73-5 (spec can be found at www.dot.ca.gov/hq/traffops/engineering/control-devices/specs/R73-5.pdf) and Caltrans notes that it does not have a MUTCD equivalent.  It's possible the sign has been adopted by other states but I am not 100% sure about that.

There are a couple different styles of that sign in use in Nevada. I think NDOT has a standard sign for it, and some municipalities have their own slight variation (some versions, possibly including NDOT's, include the unnecessary and slightly erroneous text "on left arrow only").
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on March 05, 2015, 10:48:26 AM
We have something similar here in Huntsville..
The older design:
https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=34.704057,-86.587556&spn=0.000699,0.001032&t=h&z=21&layer=c&cbll=34.704057,-86.587556&panoid=YwV1sK9J3DFaX7u0dg3bxQ&cbp=12,327.52,,2,-28.25
The newer design:
https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=34.691307,-86.581326&spn=0.000703,0.001032&t=h&z=21&layer=c&cbll=34.691307,-86.581326&panoid=3MiK50JGvvXJtnU2wgBYyw&cbp=12,142.93,,2,-13.8
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on March 05, 2015, 10:55:05 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.634332,-74.01607,3a,32.7y,2.03h,91.48t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sti3LOsLGF3p5YzA4tqAkPQ!2e0

...thanks for letting us know?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on March 05, 2015, 11:02:34 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.634332,-74.01607,3a,32.7y,2.03h,91.48t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sti3LOsLGF3p5YzA4tqAkPQ!2e0

...thanks for letting us know?

The "Off-Topic" forum has that thread about "old" names you may use unintentionally.

I suspect most people either don't know, or couldn't care less, about the Battery Tunnel's "renaming."
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on March 05, 2015, 11:08:16 AM
The "Off-Topic" forum has that thread about "old" names you may use unintentionally.

I suspect most people either don't know, or couldn't care less, about the Battery Tunnel's "renaming."

Yeah, I thought of that topic immediately. I'm not calling it the new name. It's always going to be the Battery for me.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on March 05, 2015, 11:49:58 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.902453,-77.058198,3a,15y,97.89h,102.39t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sX5LrWAp-4X9cmaFxVt0fUg!2e0

I don't know, maybe it's best-of material, maybe it's not. It uses that custom font, and it's a DC-US shield. Don't know how many of those still exist.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on March 06, 2015, 07:29:11 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.902453,-77.058198,3a,15y,97.89h,102.39t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sX5LrWAp-4X9cmaFxVt0fUg!2e0

I don't know, maybe it's best-of material, maybe it's not. It uses that custom font, and it's a DC-US shield. Don't know how many of those still exist.

Off the top of my head I can think of two DC-US shields on the outbound Roosevelt Bridge. Both are on LGSs telling you which lane to use for westbound 50 and both are arguably erroneous since 50 is no longer in DC as soon as you cross the shoreline. The shield on the sign you've linked is unique because it just says "DC," not "DC-US."

I know there are others, but those are the two that immediately come to mind without having to stop and think about it.

That custom font on the I-66 shield on the Whitehurst is unique, though. Another oddity you didn't mention is the use of periods after the street names ("K. Street" and "E. Street"). That's technically an error, since neither letter is an abbreviation and the street names don't include the periods.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on March 06, 2015, 10:33:34 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.902453,-77.058198,3a,15y,97.89h,102.39t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sX5LrWAp-4X9cmaFxVt0fUg!2e0

I don't know, maybe it's best-of material, maybe it's not. It uses that custom font, and it's a DC-US shield. Don't know how many of those still exist.

Off the top of my head I can think of two DC-US shields on the outbound Roosevelt Bridge. Both are on LGSs telling you which lane to use for westbound 50 and both are arguably erroneous since 50 is no longer in DC as soon as you cross the shoreline. The shield on the sign you've linked is unique because it just says "DC," not "DC-US."

I know there are others, but those are the two that immediately come to mind without having to stop and think about it.

That custom font on the I-66 shield on the Whitehurst is unique, though. Another oddity you didn't mention is the use of periods after the street names ("K. Street" and "E. Street"). That's technically an error, since neither letter is an abbreviation and the street names don't include the periods.
The font on both of those shields looks similar to a font (not sure of its exact name) that adorned many route shields in MA, ME and one or two other northeastern states up until the 1970s/80s.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PurdueBill on March 06, 2015, 05:51:32 PM
Harry S. Truman disagrees (http://www.trumanlibrary.org/speriod.htm) on the period thing.  :P

I am kidding....there is indeed no reason (or excuse) for K. and E. Streets.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on March 07, 2015, 11:22:03 AM
Is it unusual to have the word ONLY under the word NORTH? I don't recall ever seeing it around on BGSes.

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b551/slik_sh00ter/I-680_zpse6s0qyzm.jpg)

GMSV: http://goo.gl/maps/a8CXt
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on March 07, 2015, 01:06:45 PM
Is it unusual to have the word ONLY under the word NORTH? I don't recall ever seeing it around on BGSes.

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b551/slik_sh00ter/I-680_zpse6s0qyzm.jpg)

GMSV: http://goo.gl/maps/a8CXt


That is an Ohio Turnpike practice.  They did (or used to do) that on EB I-80 where I-90 splits off to join SR-2 East (Exit 142).  That exit made a little sense as you could not directly access SR-2 West from I-90 East.  Since I-680 ends at the Turnpike, there is no reason why to have the extra ONLY.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on March 07, 2015, 01:26:31 PM
Is it unusual to have the word ONLY under the word NORTH? I don't recall ever seeing it around on BGSes.

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b551/slik_sh00ter/I-680_zpse6s0qyzm.jpg)

GMSV: http://goo.gl/maps/a8CXt


That is an Ohio Turnpike practice.  They did (or used to do) that on EB I-80 where I-90 splits off to join SR-2 East (Exit 142).  That exit made a little sense as you could not directly access SR-2 West from I-90 East.  Since I-680 ends at the Turnpike, there is no reason why to have the extra ONLY.

This one also falls into the bad design category, with the arrow in the relative center of sign (instead of on the bottom or right side) and the lack of a standard black on yellow exit only panel.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PurdueBill on March 07, 2015, 05:05:22 PM
Also Ohio Turnpike peculiarities.  EXIT ONLY often appeared where there was no need for it--the exit lane appeared normally, then departed.  They have gotten away from it with the newest signs but there are plenty of weirdo ones like this around.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: renegade on March 07, 2015, 07:00:21 PM
It should be posted, "No Re-Entry," not "Exit Only."
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PurdueBill on March 07, 2015, 10:37:54 PM
It should be posted, "No Re-Entry," not "Exit Only."

Except the Ohio Turnpike use of Exit Only white on green like that isn't meant as "no re-entry"....it's a well-meaning but inappropriate use of the conventional Exit Only and they use(d) it at many interchanges.  A couple pictures at the top of Steve's I-80/90 page (http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/oh/i-90/w.html) show what I mean. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 6a on March 09, 2015, 07:15:21 PM
I really wasn't sure which thread this belongs in, so I'm using the interesting clause of the title here. Reform, AL

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/09/3405d381a70a0696fe5530ab6bebcfc8.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: riiga on March 09, 2015, 08:11:51 PM
Looks like they should've gone for a mini roundabout instead.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on March 09, 2015, 10:26:45 PM
Trenton has done this on a few of their signs:

Take a sign that is center justified for "No Parking", then instead of adding a single long arrow indicating the beginning of the no parking zone, use two short arrows facing the same direction.  If you squint, you can see the next "No Parking" sign has two arrows, facing opposite directions. While correctly applied in its location, usually a long arrow pointing both directions would be used.

(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd144/roadnut/0A2DCE5C-D59D-48DF-999D-F6A062E9A541.jpg) (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/roadnut/media/0A2DCE5C-D59D-48DF-999D-F6A062E9A541.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on March 09, 2015, 10:34:54 PM
NJ's law was "Yield to Pedestrians". The new law is "Stop for Pedestrians". In most cases, the sign was replaced or "yield to" became "stop for". In some cases, only yield was replaced with Stop, resulting in the weirdly sounding "Stop Here To Pedestrians" or "Stop To Pedestrians". Look closely and you can see they attempted to cover up the old "Yield" graphic also, but slightly missed the corners.

(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd144/roadnut/6EDFF40B-ABDB-48DA-817A-E154436E484F.jpg) (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/roadnut/media/6EDFF40B-ABDB-48DA-817A-E154436E484F.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on March 09, 2015, 10:48:34 PM
At least Trenton's sign is better than:

(http://i.imgur.com/95OHSCu.png)

 :bigass:

That being said, I don't appreciate those stupid 'STOP FOR PEDESTRIAN' signs they place in the center of most roads in pedestrian-heavy areas, because combine that with with people parked on the sides and you have to navigate to avoid the sign and the cars. I would rather them post signs and stick them on the sidewalk.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on March 09, 2015, 11:01:41 PM
One thing I dislike about "Stop for Pedestrian" signs is that some cities place them in crosswalks controlled by "Walk/Don't Walk" lights. If the pedestrian has a "Don't Walk" light, HE is supposed to yield to vehicles with a green light. But I've seen a number of belligerent pedestrians who think the "Stop for Pedestrian" sign trumps thag.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 10, 2015, 09:33:03 AM
A pedestrian disobeying the DON'T WALK signal is still someone a driver has to yield to.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on March 10, 2015, 10:26:17 AM
A pedestrian disobeying the DON'T WALK signal is still someone a driver has to yield to.

To avoid hitting, yes.  Legally, no.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on March 10, 2015, 10:28:23 AM
One thing I dislike about "Stop for Pedestrian" signs is that some cities place them in crosswalks controlled by "Walk/Don't Walk" lights. If the pedestrian has a "Don't Walk" light, HE is supposed to yield to vehicles with a green light. But I've seen a number of belligerent pedestrians who think the "Stop for Pedestrian" sign trumps thag.

That happened to me in Lambertville on Sunday. Sure, 'stop for pedestrians' means do it at crosswalks, but if the damn traffic signal has a picture of a hand up, you still don't cross.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on March 10, 2015, 10:29:42 AM
At least Trenton's sign is better than:

(http://i.imgur.com/95OHSCu.png)

 :bigass:

:bigass:

There are a few of these signs still around where "Yield" hasn't faded.  There was one just down the street from where I took my pictures. (At least I think it still said 'Yield" and not "Stop")
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 10, 2015, 10:54:25 PM
A pedestrian disobeying the DON'T WALK signal is still someone a driver has to yield to.

To avoid hitting, yes.  Legally, no.

Legally, yes. You, as a driver, are in fact legally obligated to yield to pedestrians even when they have broken the law and entered the roadway in violation of laws pertaining to them.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: spooky on March 11, 2015, 07:11:59 AM
A pedestrian disobeying the DON'T WALK signal is still someone a driver has to yield to.

To avoid hitting, yes.  Legally, no.

Legally, yes. You, as a driver, are in fact legally obligated to yield to pedestrians even when they have broken the law and entered the roadway in violation of laws pertaining to them.

Not in Massachusetts. from M.G.L. c. 89, § 11:

Quote
Section 11. When traffic control signals are not in place or not in operation the driver of a vehicle shall yield the right of way, slowing down or stopping if need be so to yield, to a pedestrian crossing the roadway within a crosswalk marked in accordance with standards established by the department of highways if the pedestrian is on that half of the traveled part of the way on which the vehicle is traveling or if the pedestrian approaches from the opposite half of the traveled part of the way to within 10 feet of that half of the traveled part of the way on which said vehicle is traveling.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on March 11, 2015, 07:47:27 AM
A pedestrian disobeying the DON'T WALK signal is still someone a driver has to yield to.

To avoid hitting, yes.  Legally, no.

Legally, yes. You, as a driver, are in fact legally obligated to yield to pedestrians even when they have broken the law and entered the roadway in violation of laws pertaining to them.

That's the sort of thing that varies from state to state, just like whether the law calls for "stopping for" or "yielding to" pedestrians varies from state to state. In a state that requires you to "yield" to pedestrians, you don't necessarily have to stop for a pedestrian in the crosswalk, for example if it's a wide street and the pedestrian is nowhere near your lane. But some states require you to stop if the pedestrian is anywhere in the crosswalk.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on March 11, 2015, 08:19:58 AM
A pedestrian disobeying the DON'T WALK signal is still someone a driver has to yield to.

To avoid hitting, yes.  Legally, no.

Legally, yes. You, as a driver, are in fact legally obligated to yield to pedestrians even when they have broken the law and entered the roadway in violation of laws pertaining to them.

So when driving on the 75 mph Kansas Turnpike, if a pedestrian wanders into the road, legally everyone has to stop for him?  I don't think so.  That's why these blanket statements are almost always wrong.

Here's NJ's law pertaining to pedestrians.  While a pedestrian within a crosswalk (or unmarked crosswalk at intersections) are perceived to have the right of way, they certainly can't just wander willy-nilly:

Quote
39:4-36  Driver to yield to pedestrians, exceptions; violations, penalties.

39:4-36. a. The driver of a vehicle shall yield the right-of-way to a pedestrian crossing the roadway within any unmarked crosswalk at an intersection, except at crosswalks when the movement of traffic is being regulated by police officers or traffic control signals, or where otherwise regulated by municipal, county, or State regulation, and except where a pedestrian tunnel or overhead pedestrian crossing has been provided:

(1)The driver of a vehicle shall stop and remain stopped to allow a pedestrian to cross the roadway within a marked crosswalk, when the pedestrian is upon, or within one lane of, the half of the roadway, upon which the vehicle is traveling or onto which it is turning.  As used in this paragraph, "half of the roadway" means all traffic lanes conveying traffic in one direction of travel, and includes the entire width of a one-way roadway.

(2)No pedestrian shall leave a curb or other place of safety and walk or run into the path of a vehicle which is so close that it is impossible for the driver to yield or stop.

(3)Whenever any vehicle is stopped to permit a pedestrian to cross the roadway, the driver of any other vehicle approaching from the rear shall not overtake and pass such stopped vehicle.

(4)Every pedestrian upon a roadway at any point other than within a marked crosswalk or within an unmarked crosswalk at an intersection shall yield the right-of-way to all vehicles upon the roadway.

(5)Nothing contained herein shall relieve a driver from the duty to exercise due care for the safety of any pedestrian upon a roadway. Nothing contained herein shall relieve a pedestrian from using due care for his safety.

Now, since you're from Kansas, maybe their law is different.  So I looked it up...and it's extremely similar to NJ's law.  In fact, there's nothing to indicate that "You, as a driver, are in fact legally obligated to yield to pedestrians even when they have broken the law and entered the roadway in violation of laws pertaining to them."  There is a provision that requires drivers to exercise due care to avoid hitting pedestrians, but that's not the same as saying the pedestrian is always right.

Kansas' laws pertaining to pedestrians:  http://www.ksdot.org/bureaus/burRail/bike/biking/KssidewalkStatutes.asp
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on March 11, 2015, 10:59:57 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.448399,-81.330634,3a,82.2y,139.16h,84.01t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sZqh4hQTeinCz_0qkDhvmdg!2e0

This is on the west side of the Orlando International Airport.  One of the very rare instances of a public road with a non MUTCD stop sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on March 11, 2015, 12:33:02 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.448399,-81.330634,3a,82.2y,139.16h,84.01t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sZqh4hQTeinCz_0qkDhvmdg!2e0

This is on the west side of the Orlando International Airport.  One of the very rare instances of a public road with a non MUTCD stop sign.

Are you sure that's a public road?  It's past the "authorized personal only, permit required" sign.  Probably put up by the airport authority.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on March 11, 2015, 02:13:40 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.448399,-81.330634,3a,82.2y,139.16h,84.01t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sZqh4hQTeinCz_0qkDhvmdg!2e0

This is on the west side of the Orlando International Airport.  One of the very rare instances of a public road with a non MUTCD stop sign.
While the font on that STOP sign certainly isn't standard, I'll give you that (looks like a private fabrication/install); however, that alone does not make it non-MUTCD complaint.  As long as it's octagonal, red w/white lettering and has the word STOP on it; it's MUTCD complaint for a STOP sign.

To be honest, when I first clicked on your link; I was expecting to see either an odd-shaped and/or different colored STOP sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on March 11, 2015, 02:22:26 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.448399,-81.330634,3a,82.2y,139.16h,84.01t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sZqh4hQTeinCz_0qkDhvmdg!2e0

This is on the west side of the Orlando International Airport.  One of the very rare instances of a public road with a non MUTCD stop sign.
While the font on that STOP sign certainly isn't standard, I'll give you that (looks like a private fabrication/install); however, that alone does not make it non-MUTCD complaint.  As long as it's octagonal, red w/white lettering and has the word STOP on it; it's MUTCD complaint for a STOP sign.

To be honest, when I first clicked on your link; I was expecting to see either an odd-shaped and/or different colored STOP sign.

Not to be pedantic, but I believe the MUTCD says signs "shall" use the approved fonts, to the same degree of force as it says stop signs "shall" be octagonal and red.

Edit: not literally true, as it turns out.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on March 11, 2015, 03:26:06 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.448399,-81.330634,3a,82.2y,139.16h,84.01t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sZqh4hQTeinCz_0qkDhvmdg!2e0

This is on the west side of the Orlando International Airport.  One of the very rare instances of a public road with a non MUTCD stop sign.
While the font on that STOP sign certainly isn't standard, I'll give you that (looks like a private fabrication/install); however, that alone does not make it non-MUTCD complaint.  As long as it's octagonal, red w/white lettering and has the word STOP on it; it's MUTCD complaint for a STOP sign.

To be honest, when I first clicked on your link; I was expecting to see either an odd-shaped and/or different colored STOP sign.

Not to be pedantic, but I believe the MUTCD says signs "shall" use the approved fonts, to the same degree of force as it says stop signs "shall" be octagonal and red.

http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/pdfs/2009/mutcd2009edition.pdf

Amazingly, doing a word search, "Font" only comes up once in the entire document.  And it's under the 'changeable message sign' section.

As for the section under Stop signs, it only states that the stop sign "shall be an octagon with a white legend and border on a red background".  So as long as that condition is met, which it was, then it's a legal stop sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on March 11, 2015, 03:38:53 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.448399,-81.330634,3a,82.2y,139.16h,84.01t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sZqh4hQTeinCz_0qkDhvmdg!2e0

This is on the west side of the Orlando International Airport.  One of the very rare instances of a public road with a non MUTCD stop sign.
While the font on that STOP sign certainly isn't standard, I'll give you that (looks like a private fabrication/install); however, that alone does not make it non-MUTCD complaint.  As long as it's octagonal, red w/white lettering and has the word STOP on it; it's MUTCD complaint for a STOP sign.

To be honest, when I first clicked on your link; I was expecting to see either an odd-shaped and/or different colored STOP sign.

Not to be pedantic, but I believe the MUTCD says signs "shall" use the approved fonts, to the same degree of force as it says stop signs "shall" be octagonal and red.

http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/pdfs/2009/mutcd2009edition.pdf

Amazingly, doing a word search, "Font" only comes up once in the entire document.  And it's under the 'changeable message sign' section.

As for the section under Stop signs, it only states that the stop sign "shall be an octagon with a white legend and border on a red background".  So as long as that condition is met, which it was, then it's a legal stop sign.

I didn't try searching it because it was taking forever to load to the point where I could do that, but do they perchance use the word "typeface" instead of "font"? Most people would regard the distinction between the two words as pedantic, but there is a difference. The "font" is what you use, the "typeface" is what you see. Times New Roman is a typeface, for example (and Times New Roman Bold is a different typeface). Times New Roman 12-point is a font. A font is a single weight, width, and style of a typeface.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: spooky on March 11, 2015, 03:44:27 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.448399,-81.330634,3a,82.2y,139.16h,84.01t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sZqh4hQTeinCz_0qkDhvmdg!2e0

This is on the west side of the Orlando International Airport.  One of the very rare instances of a public road with a non MUTCD stop sign.
While the font on that STOP sign certainly isn't standard, I'll give you that (looks like a private fabrication/install); however, that alone does not make it non-MUTCD complaint.  As long as it's octagonal, red w/white lettering and has the word STOP on it; it's MUTCD complaint for a STOP sign.

To be honest, when I first clicked on your link; I was expecting to see either an odd-shaped and/or different colored STOP sign.

Not to be pedantic, but I believe the MUTCD says signs "shall" use the approved fonts, to the same degree of force as it says stop signs "shall" be octagonal and red.

http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/pdfs/2009/mutcd2009edition.pdf

Amazingly, doing a word search, "Font" only comes up once in the entire document.  And it's under the 'changeable message sign' section.

As for the section under Stop signs, it only states that the stop sign "shall be an octagon with a white legend and border on a red background".  So as long as that condition is met, which it was, then it's a legal stop sign.

I didn't try searching it because it was taking forever to load to the point where I could do that, but do they perchance use the word "typeface" instead of "font"? Most people would regard the distinction between the two words as pedantic, but there is a difference. The "font" is what you use, the "typeface" is what you see. Times New Roman is a typeface, for example (and Times New Roman Bold is a different typeface). Times New Roman 12-point is a font. A font is a single weight, width, and style of a typeface.

From Section 2A.06 Design of Signs:

Standard:
06 The term legend shall include all word messages and symbol and arrow designs that are intended to
convey specific meanings.
07 Uniformity in design shall include shape, color, dimensions, legends, borders, and illumination or
retroreflectivity.
08 Standardization of these designs does not preclude further improvement by minor changes in the
proportion or orientation of symbols, width of borders, or layout of word messages, but all shapes and
colors shall be as indicated.
09 All symbols shall be unmistakably similar to, or mirror images of, the adopted symbol signs, all of
which are shown in the “Standard Highway Signs and Markings” book (see Section 1A.11). Symbols
and colors shall not be modified unless otherwise provided in this Manual. All symbols and colors for
signs not shown in the “Standard Highway Signs and Markings” book shall follow the procedures for
experimentation and change described in Section 1A.10.


This suggests that symbol and color are the only factors that are sacrosanct.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on March 11, 2015, 03:46:29 PM
I was trying to think of other words similar to 'font' as well.

Typeface and type face both come up negative.

Type or face come up, but nothing to do with fonts.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on March 11, 2015, 04:04:53 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.448399,-81.330634,3a,82.2y,139.16h,84.01t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sZqh4hQTeinCz_0qkDhvmdg!2e0

This is on the west side of the Orlando International Airport.  One of the very rare instances of a public road with a non MUTCD stop sign.
While the font on that STOP sign certainly isn't standard, I'll give you that (looks like a private fabrication/install); however, that alone does not make it non-MUTCD complaint.  As long as it's octagonal, red w/white lettering and has the word STOP on it; it's MUTCD complaint for a STOP sign.

To be honest, when I first clicked on your link; I was expecting to see either an odd-shaped and/or different colored STOP sign.

Not to be pedantic, but I believe the MUTCD says signs "shall" use the approved fonts, to the same degree of force as it says stop signs "shall" be octagonal and red.

http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/pdfs/2009/mutcd2009edition.pdf

Amazingly, doing a word search, "Font" only comes up once in the entire document.  And it's under the 'changeable message sign' section.

As for the section under Stop signs, it only states that the stop sign "shall be an octagon with a white legend and border on a red background".  So as long as that condition is met, which it was, then it's a legal stop sign.

I didn't try searching it because it was taking forever to load to the point where I could do that, but do they perchance use the word "typeface" instead of "font"? Most people would regard the distinction between the two words as pedantic, but there is a difference. The "font" is what you use, the "typeface" is what you see. Times New Roman is a typeface, for example (and Times New Roman Bold is a different typeface). Times New Roman 12-point is a font. A font is a single weight, width, and style of a typeface.

From Section 2A.06 Design of Signs:

Standard:
06 The term legend shall include all word messages and symbol and arrow designs that are intended to
convey specific meanings.
07 Uniformity in design shall include shape, color, dimensions, legends, borders, and illumination or
retroreflectivity.
08 Standardization of these designs does not preclude further improvement by minor changes in the
proportion or orientation of symbols, width of borders, or layout of word messages, but all shapes and
colors shall be as indicated.
09 All symbols shall be unmistakably similar to, or mirror images of, the adopted symbol signs, all of
which are shown in the “Standard Highway Signs and Markings” book (see Section 1A.11). Symbols
and colors shall not be modified unless otherwise provided in this Manual. All symbols and colors for
signs not shown in the “Standard Highway Signs and Markings” book shall follow the procedures for
experimentation and change described in Section 1A.10.


This suggests that symbol and color are the only factors that are sacrosanct.

I guess what I was falling back to was simplicity.  Instead of dissecting the verbiage of the MUTCD, I was thinking of driver's education.  One of the first things you learn when you start learning how to drive is that stop signs are the most unique signs in the world for a reason.  There is a reason they are the only octagonal signs and one of just a hand full of signs that are mostly (or all) red.  In the interest of safety for those learning to drive, the MUTCD came up with strict guidelines on how a stop sign should look so it will not look "foreign" when it doesn't comply to the same standards as all the others across the country.  So when I see a stop sign that is not in FHWA Highway Gothic font, I think it is very odd looking, seeing how they are supposed to be the most standardized sign across the board by MUTCH, because it is a STOP SIGN.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: spooky on March 11, 2015, 04:09:06 PM
I suspect you are in the minority. You know what most people do when they see a sign that is not in FHWA Highway Gothic font?

They stop.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 11, 2015, 04:09:13 PM
A pedestrian disobeying the DON'T WALK signal is still someone a driver has to yield to.

To avoid hitting, yes.  Legally, no.

Legally, yes. You, as a driver, are in fact legally obligated to yield to pedestrians even when they have broken the law and entered the roadway in violation of laws pertaining to them.

So when driving on the 75 mph Kansas Turnpike, if a pedestrian wanders into the road, legally everyone has to stop for him?  I don't think so.  That's why these blanket statements are almost always wrong.

Here's NJ's law pertaining to pedestrians.  While a pedestrian within a crosswalk (or unmarked crosswalk at intersections) are perceived to have the right of way, they certainly can't just wander willy-nilly:

Quote
39:4-36  Driver to yield to pedestrians, exceptions; violations, penalties.

39:4-36. a. The driver of a vehicle shall yield the right-of-way to a pedestrian crossing the roadway within any unmarked crosswalk at an intersection, except at crosswalks when the movement of traffic is being regulated by police officers or traffic control signals, or where otherwise regulated by municipal, county, or State regulation, and except where a pedestrian tunnel or overhead pedestrian crossing has been provided:

(1)The driver of a vehicle shall stop and remain stopped to allow a pedestrian to cross the roadway within a marked crosswalk, when the pedestrian is upon, or within one lane of, the half of the roadway, upon which the vehicle is traveling or onto which it is turning.  As used in this paragraph, "half of the roadway" means all traffic lanes conveying traffic in one direction of travel, and includes the entire width of a one-way roadway.

(2)No pedestrian shall leave a curb or other place of safety and walk or run into the path of a vehicle which is so close that it is impossible for the driver to yield or stop.

(3)Whenever any vehicle is stopped to permit a pedestrian to cross the roadway, the driver of any other vehicle approaching from the rear shall not overtake and pass such stopped vehicle.

(4)Every pedestrian upon a roadway at any point other than within a marked crosswalk or within an unmarked crosswalk at an intersection shall yield the right-of-way to all vehicles upon the roadway.

(5)Nothing contained herein shall relieve a driver from the duty to exercise due care for the safety of any pedestrian upon a roadway. Nothing contained herein shall relieve a pedestrian from using due care for his safety.

Now, since you're from Kansas, maybe their law is different.  So I looked it up...and it's extremely similar to NJ's law.  In fact, there's nothing to indicate that "You, as a driver, are in fact legally obligated to yield to pedestrians even when they have broken the law and entered the roadway in violation of laws pertaining to them."  There is a provision that requires drivers to exercise due care to avoid hitting pedestrians, but that's not the same as saying the pedestrian is always right.

Kansas' laws pertaining to pedestrians:  http://www.ksdot.org/bureaus/burRail/bike/biking/KssidewalkStatutes.asp


So your saying that "exercising due care for the safety of any pedestrian upon a roadway" does NOT necessarily include yielding to said pedestrian? The original post I quoted very clearly implied that it is legal to hit a pedestrian who has entered the road against a DON'T WALK signal, when such is obviously not the case.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on March 11, 2015, 04:09:30 PM
From MUTCD Standard Sign Manual

Letters in the box in the bottom refer to the FHWA typeface to use.  First sign in this PDF file is the stop sign and say use series C in column D

http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/SHSe/Regulatory.pdf
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 11, 2015, 04:12:24 PM
And yes, if you're driving on the Turnpike at 75 mph and someone wanders out into the highway, you are legally obligated to avoid hitting him. If that means coming to a full stop (not sure how it would require that, but I'll bite), then so be it. There does not exist a point at which you just get to say "screw it" and mow someone down.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on March 11, 2015, 04:34:05 PM
.... There is a reason they are the only octagonal signs ....

Someone needs to tell that to the GSA:

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.884849,-77.023894,3a,37.5y,356.91h,86.09t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1svu-NLiXmJ8wn5NzeFtvQCA!2e0
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on March 11, 2015, 04:37:15 PM
I suspect you are in the minority. You know what most people do when they see a sign that is not in FHWA Highway Gothic font?

They stop.

This is the same people that claimed it's illegal to drive westbound along a road striped for travel in both directions because the city has not repealed an ordinance making the street one-way eastbound.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on March 11, 2015, 04:37:19 PM
.... There is a reason they are the only octagonal signs ....

Someone needs to tell that to the GSA:

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.884849,-77.023894,3a,37.5y,356.91h,86.09t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1svu-NLiXmJ8wn5NzeFtvQCA!2e0
and WisDOT.  They put a octagonal DO NOT ENTER sign on the reverse side of the STOP sign in order to keep the shape for those facing the stop sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on March 11, 2015, 04:38:19 PM
I think what I was remembering was this:
Quote
Section 1A.11 Relation to Other Publications

Standard:
01 To the extent that they are incorporated by specific reference, the latest editions of the following publications, or those editions specifically noted, shall be a part of this Manual: "Standard Highway Signs and Markings" book (FHWA); and "Color Specifications for Retroreflective Sign and Pavement Marking Materials" (appendix to subpart F of Part 655 of Title 23 of the Code of Federal Regulations).


Support:
02 The "Standard Highway Signs and Markings" book includes standard alphabets and symbols and arrows for signs and pavement markings.

I found this passage by searching for the phrase "standard alphabets".  So, indirectly, if Standard Highway Signs and Markings says to use a specific font (which it does for every sign, right?) then the MUTCD says to use that font.  What's less clear is how forceful that font specification is.  Though I'm having trouble locating corroborating verbiage, my hunch is it's on comparable ground with symbols and arrows, and therefore shall be "unmistakably similar to, or mirror images of" the Standard Alphabets as specified in SHS, per spooky's quote from chapter 2A.  I'll edit my previous post to indicate my belief at that time was not literally true.



.... There is a reason they are the only octagonal signs ....

Someone needs to tell that to the GSA:

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.884849,-77.023894,3a,37.5y,356.91h,86.09t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1svu-NLiXmJ8wn5NzeFtvQCA!2e0
and WisDOT.  They put a octagonal DO NOT ENTER sign on the reverse side of the STOP sign in order to keep the shape for those facing the stop sign.

Wouldn't a round DO NOT ENTER sign fit nicely behind an octagonal STOP sign?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on March 11, 2015, 04:40:06 PM
I suspect you are in the minority. You know what most people do when they see a sign that is not in FHWA Highway Gothic font?

They stop.

I am still gonna stop yeah, I am not stupid.  But I think the standardization of the sign keeps the driver from having the split second distraction of "that stop sign looks a little off" or "the octagon is a bit narrow".  I think the point is to eliminate any distraction that can arise, even if it is a tenth of a second, because we are trying to control an intersection.  I know it may sound very petty, and it isn't like someone is going to run the stop sign if the font is wrong, but when there is something a bit different about the road, it will distract you.  After all, this forum would have half the posts it did if it wasn't for inconsistencies, so obviously they can distract a driver.


I think when I put down my original link it was because the stop sign was odd looking, regardless of how you stretch the rules to make it legal.  It was odd, just like when you see a trailblazer shield and the "TO" is in Arial font.  It is odd.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 11, 2015, 05:44:53 PM
So when driving on the 75 mph Kansas Turnpike, if a pedestrian wanders into the road, legally everyone has to stop for him?  I don't think so.  That's why these blanket statements are almost always wrong.

Sounds like murder if you don't stop for them. I mean, yeah, their fucking insane, but that doesn't give you the right to just plow over them.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on March 11, 2015, 06:44:14 PM
I think when I put down my original link it was because the stop sign was odd looking, regardless of how you stretch the rules to make it legal.  It was odd, just like when you see a trailblazer shield and the "TO" is in Arial font.  It is odd.
In retrospect, had you just simply stated odd or unusual font as opposed to "non-MUTCD STOP sign" (which is a tad misleading IMHO); this thread would be about 10 to 15 replies shorter.  :)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on March 11, 2015, 11:46:37 PM
I think when I put down my original link it was because the stop sign was odd looking, regardless of how you stretch the rules to make it legal.  It was odd, just like when you see a trailblazer shield and the "TO" is in Arial font.  It is odd.
In retrospect, had you just simply stated odd or unusual font as opposed to "non-MUTCD STOP sign" (which is a tad misleading IMHO); this thread would be about 10 to 15 replies shorter.  :)

Agreed, but I thought that was implied by the subject title.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kacie Jane on March 12, 2015, 03:48:14 AM
So when driving on the 75 mph Kansas Turnpike, if a pedestrian wanders into the road, legally everyone has to stop for him?  I don't think so.  That's why these blanket statements are almost always wrong.

Sounds like murder if you don't stop for them. I mean, yeah, their fucking insane, but that doesn't give you the right to just plow over them.

Almost certainly not murder. Possibly manslaughter, especially if you also don't stop after the fact and it becomes a hit and run.  But generally if the motorist does everything else correctly, it's understood that you can't always stop on a dime, and frequently they're not even cited.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 12, 2015, 04:19:49 AM
So when driving on the 75 mph Kansas Turnpike, if a pedestrian wanders into the road, legally everyone has to stop for him?  I don't think so.  That's why these blanket statements are almost always wrong.

Sounds like murder if you don't stop for them. I mean, yeah, their fucking insane, but that doesn't give you the right to just plow over them.

Almost certainly not murder. Possibly manslaughter, especially if you also don't stop after the fact and it becomes a hit and run.  But generally if the motorist does everything else correctly, it's understood that you can't always stop on a dime, and frequently they're not even cited.

Good point. Forgot about "manslaughter" as an alternative to murder.

My point was, if you are driving along a road, and you see someone standing in it, you cannot knowingly run over them.

If you turn a corner, and someone is just standing there without cause, and you can prove that you could not see them, then that's okay. But if you can see them plain as day, you need to stop.

I am drawing a line between someone darting out into traffic and someone standing in a lane of travel for a significant period of time, long enough to be noticed by even the least attentive motorist.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 12, 2015, 09:44:51 AM
Right. A pedestrian disobeying the law does allow a driver permission to not avoid hitting him. New Jersey's law, above, clearly states in 39:4-36(5) that none of the other laws shall be interpreted to mean that's ever OK. No, that doesn't mean the pedestrian is always right. What it does mean is that the driver has to yield to the pedestrian no matter who was right or wrong when that kind of situation presents itself. The same section also gives pedestrians the responsibility to watch out for drivers who fail to obey their regulations and laws, but with slightly different wording due to the fact that pedestrians are the ones more at risk of injury when bumper meets flesh. "Right of way" is not generally a term used in American traffic law; that is, laws are not generally worded to say that it's OK for you to go while everyone else must yield to you. Rather, they are generally always restrictive; that is, they are worded to say when each person must give way to others. "Taking the right of way" sounds good but is not generally a legally protected action, should anything bad happen.

This is actually a hard thing to teach children, in my experience. I am one who is not afraid to "take the right of way" when crossing the street as a pedestrian. I've had years of experience doing so, and I know the laws well. If I know that a coming vehicle is obligated to yield to me as I legally cross the street in a crosswalk, then I'm usually not going to bother waiting. But I am keenly aware, out of the corner of my eye, of the vehicle's movement, and I'm ready to avoid being hit if that vehicle doesn't yield. So how do I teach that to my sons? to be bold and not intimidated when traveling on foot, but also to be scared of being hit at the same time.

I know, when I was a child, it irked me that my parents would wait a few extra seconds at a four-way stop to make sure cross traffic was actually stopping. My argument was that, if the other car hit ours, then it would be the other driver's fault. My mom's reply was that that didn't wouldn't matter because the car would be damaged, no matter whose fault it was (not to mention bodily harm, which she didn't). That just didn't make sense to my young mind.

Back on the actual topic of "Yield to pedestrians" versus "Stop for pedestrians" signs, my initial reaction is that Stop is overkill. But, upon reflection, I think it's a good idea for two reasons: (1) We Americans tend to blow through Yield signs too quickly, interpreting them to mean "this stretch of road isn't busy enough for a Stop sign, so there's probably nobody to give way to, so why bother slowing down very much"; especially where there a lot of pedestrians crossing the street, drivers could benefit from the more forceful language. (2) The next step up from signs is usually a dedicated crosswalk stoplight, and those always seem to stay red for-freaking-ever before turning green again. I'm in favor of exploring signage options before installing one of those.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on March 12, 2015, 10:16:38 AM
Almost certainly not murder. Possibly manslaughter, especially if you also don't stop after the fact and it becomes a hit and run.  But generally if the motorist does everything else correctly, it's understood that you can't always stop on a dime, and frequently they're not even cited.

Good point. Forgot about "manslaughter" as an alternative to murder.
Actually the main difference between murder and manslaughter is that the latter is not a malicious act (aka absence of malice).

My point was, if you are driving along a road, and you see someone standing in it, you cannot knowingly run over them.

If you turn a corner, and someone is just standing there without cause, and you can prove that you could not see them, then that's okay. But if you can see them plain as day, you need to stop.

I am drawing a line between someone darting out into traffic and someone standing in a lane of travel for a significant period of time, long enough to be noticed by even the least attentive motorist.
It is my understanding that most if not all expressways/freeways in the U.S. prohibit pedestrians from using them.  Most of not all accidents involving pedestrians getting struck (and possibly killed) on freeways usually involves either:

1.  The pedestrian intentionally placing themselves in harm's way, be it a dare or a suicide (attempt).

2.  A stranded motorist getting out of their car and crossing the expressway for some reason (example: while changing a tire, the spare accidentally rolls out towards traffic and the motorist tries to retrieve it by crossing the road).

3.  An errant vehicle swerving into the shoulder striking a pedestrian; be it stranded motorist that's either standing or walking towards the back of their vehicle for something, or a state trooper that happens to be on the scene.  The latter is one reason why many police officers now approach a stopped vehicle from the passenger's side during traffic stops.  There have been cases where cops have been struck by a passing vehicle (be it an expressway or a conventional street) while making a traffic stop.

Long story short, the so-called pedestrian always having the right-of-way - no matter what; I don't believe, fully applies in an expressway/freeway scenario.  Case in point; the demonstrators along two-sections of I-93 near Boston that took place earlier this year did not have the right-of-way to stop/disrupt traffic along that highway.

Back on the actual topic of "Yield to pedestrians" versus "Stop for pedestrians" signs, my initial reaction is that Stop is overkill. But, upon reflection, I think it's a good idea for two reasons: (1) We Americans tend to blow through Yield signs too quickly, interpreting them to mean "this stretch of road isn't busy enough for a Stop sign, so there's probably nobody to give way to, so why bother slowing down very much"; especially where there a lot of pedestrians crossing the street, drivers could benefit from the more forceful language. (2) The next step up from signs is usually a dedicated crosswalk stoplight, and those always seem to stay red for-freaking-ever before turning green again. I'm in favor of exploring signage options before installing one of those.
Where I reside, I've usually seen Stop for Pedestrians signs at crossings where the roadway traffic is not making any turns.  The Yield to Pedestrian signs are usually posted where turning vehicles will encounter a pedestrian crossing area or crosswalk.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on March 12, 2015, 10:46:39 AM
Back on the actual topic of "Yield to pedestrians" versus "Stop for pedestrians" signs, my initial reaction is that Stop is overkill. But, upon reflection, I think it's a good idea for two reasons: (1) We Americans tend to blow through Yield signs too quickly, interpreting them to mean "this stretch of road isn't busy enough for a Stop sign, so there's probably nobody to give way to, so why bother slowing down very much"; especially where there a lot of pedestrians crossing the street, drivers could benefit from the more forceful language. (2) The next step up from signs is usually a dedicated crosswalk stoplight, and those always seem to stay red for-freaking-ever before turning green again. I'm in favor of exploring signage options before installing one of those.
Where I reside, I've usually seen Stop for Pedestrains signs at crossings where the roadway traffic is not making any turns.  The Yield to Pedestrain signs are usually posted where turning vehicles will encounter a pedestrain crossing area or crosswalk.

I think I brought up "Yield to Pedestrians." In Virginia, that variant is the only one that's used at all—the state MUTCD supplement specifically provides that "Stop for Pedestrians" is not to be used here. I believe the reason is that the statute requires drivers to "yield" to pedestrians in certain circumstances and specifically allows a driver to change course or slow down, rather than stopping, if those alternatives are safe under the circumstances. The statute also refers to yielding to pedestrians "[a]t any intersection when the driver is approaching on a highway or street where the legal maximum speed does not exceed 35 miles per hour," which I find interesting because some of the bad pedestrian behavior is not limited to roads with speed limits that low.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 12, 2015, 01:39:49 PM
Long story short, the so-called pedestrian always having the right-of-way - no matter what; I don't believe, fully applies in an expressway/freeway scenario.  Case in point; the demonstrators along two-sections of I-93 near Boston that took place earlier this year did not have the right-of-way to stop/disrupt traffic along that highway.

I concur. There are many places where pedestrians do not the right of way. I am not arguing against that. What I am trying to say is, you, just as equally, have no right to knowingly kill someone. Case in point; the drivers on I-93 stopped for the protesters because if they didn't, then they would have killed them (which is, of course, vehicular manslaughter).

Perhaps its just me, but the merits of right-of-way should only be discussed if said right-of-way isn't already occupied (minus situations whereby the right-of-way is very suddenly occupied and others do not have time to react to the sudden occupation).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 12, 2015, 02:42:06 PM
Having the right of way is not an American legal concept. There are scenarios in which the law requires pedestrians to yield to drivers. There are scenarios in which drivers must yield to pedestrians. Sometimes those two overlap. But traffic laws don't say "You have the right to go ahead." Even laws about green lights include the word "caution" and waiting for traffic to clear before proceeding.

And so a freeway's prohibiting pedestrian traffic may seem like it allows a driver to not yield to errant pedestrians, but such rights are not granted to drivers by law, regardless of the type of road they are on.

I've only ever seen a Yield to Pedestrians sign, never a Stop for Pedestrians sign, by the way.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on March 12, 2015, 02:59:07 PM
Case in point; the drivers on I-93 stopped for the protesters because if they didn't, then they would have killed them (which is, of course, vehicular manslaughter).
I'm sure of them thought of doing such... especially after they knew who the protesters were (mostly rich spoiled brats).

All joking aside, when someone's killed by getting struck by a vehicle; the charge is known as vehicular homicide.

I've only ever seen a Yield to Pedestrians sign, never a Stop for Pedestrians sign, by the way.
I've seen examples of R1-6a signs (scroll down) (http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/pdfs/2009r1r2/part2b.pdf) situated inside the double-yellow stripes along Swarthmore Ave. in Swarthmore, PA near the railroad crossing (GSV for this area predates the installation of such signs).  So such signs are indeed out there and in use.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on March 12, 2015, 08:07:35 PM
I suspect you are in the minority. You know what most people do when they see a sign that is not in FHWA Highway Gothic font?

They stop.

This is the same people that claimed it's illegal to drive westbound along a road striped for travel in both directions because the city has not repealed an ordinance making the street one-way eastbound.

I heart you.

BTW, it was not the same people.  My statement regarding this was there isn't any specific font that shall be used; not "since it's not the right font, you can ignore it".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on March 12, 2015, 08:08:29 PM
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And yes, if you're driving on the Turnpike at 75 mph and someone wanders out into the highway, you are legally obligated to avoid hitting him. If that means coming to a full stop (not sure how it would require that, but I'll bite), then so be it. There does not exist a point at which you just get to say "screw it" and mow someone down.

Due to the rate of speed on a highway, if someone is standing in a lane, you do what you can to avoid hitting them.  However, I would argue stopping is not prudent depending on the circumstance.  What if you have a tractor trailer behind you, which takes longer to stop?  If you stopped and tractor trailer runs into you, he'll potentially push you into pedestrian anyway, and tractor trailer is probably going to jackknife into another lane, causing more mayhem.  Should the tractor trailer have left more room?  Yes.  Have you always followed the absolute letter of the law yourself?  No.

You will have a very tough time finding a news story when someone was charged for hitting a pedestrian in a travel lane of a high-speed highway.  As long as the driver wasn't under the influence and wasn't distracted, it's almost always going to be found to the pedestrians' fault, and many times chalked up to a suicide or something wrong with the pedestrian.  Go ahead...try to find a news story where the driver was charged for hitting a pedestrian in the travel lanes of a highway.  You'll find a ton of "Police are investigating" stories.  If it's determined the driver was at fault, quite often you'll find a news story stating why.  When the pedestrian is found at fault, rarely will you see a followup story. 

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Sounds like murder if you don't stop for them. I mean, yeah, their fucking insane, but that doesn't give you the right to just plow over them.

In the land of making up stuff, Never did I say plow them over.  But as mentioned above, a 75 mph highway is a very different field than a 25 mph roadway.  It's common sense to expect pedestrians on local roads.  The rarity of pedestrians on an interstate highway leads to the assumption that even if you think you see someone standing on the highway ahead, by the time you even have a chance to react to it, you'll be right on top of them.

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Case in point; the drivers on I-93 stopped for the protesters because if they didn't, then they would have killed them (which is, of course, vehicular manslaughter).

I'm pretty sure traffic was already congested, and these people simply walked out into that line of traffic.  (If they didn't stop for them intentionally, it's vehicular manslaughter.  If a protestor suddenly ran in front of traffic and got it, it's not vehicular manslaughter)

But even this is a totally different situation.  Pedestrians have the right to cross the roadway.  These protestors were arrested because they didn't belong on the roadway, blocking traffic.  And in one high-profile story, one protestor was fired from their government job.  I'll bet that if any of the others were employed, and their boss found out they were out there...especially if said boss was stuck in the ensuing traffic, they were probably fired as well.  Again, clear distinction: Pedestrians obeying the law have the legal right to the roadway.  Pedestrians jaywalking shouldn't be run into if at all possible, but are subject to a ticket...and in extreme cases, arrest.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on March 12, 2015, 08:18:52 PM
BTW, it was not the same people.
It wasn't the two of you?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: renegade on March 14, 2015, 12:00:57 PM
Having the right of way is not an American legal concept. There are scenarios in which the law requires pedestrians to yield to drivers. There are scenarios in which drivers must yield to pedestrians. Sometimes those two overlap. But traffic laws don't say "You have the right to go ahead." Even laws about green lights include the word "caution" and waiting for traffic to clear before proceeding.

And so a freeway's prohibiting pedestrian traffic may seem like it allows a driver to not yield to errant pedestrians, but such rights are not granted to drivers by law, regardless of the type of road they are on.

I've only ever seen a Yield to Pedestrians sign, never a Stop for Pedestrians sign, by the way.

Come to Ann Arbor.  You will see them everywhere.  Pedestrians are special there.  The text-messaging generation has the right-of-way at all times.  They are not required to look before stepping out into the street.  Drivers, on the other hand, must STOP mid-block on the busiest 45-mph roadways if a pedestrian even LOOKS like he/she might be THINKING about crossing the street sometime in the next week to ten days.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: The Nature Boy on March 14, 2015, 12:14:09 PM
Having the right of way is not an American legal concept. There are scenarios in which the law requires pedestrians to yield to drivers. There are scenarios in which drivers must yield to pedestrians. Sometimes those two overlap. But traffic laws don't say "You have the right to go ahead." Even laws about green lights include the word "caution" and waiting for traffic to clear before proceeding.

And so a freeway's prohibiting pedestrian traffic may seem like it allows a driver to not yield to errant pedestrians, but such rights are not granted to drivers by law, regardless of the type of road they are on.

I've only ever seen a Yield to Pedestrians sign, never a Stop for Pedestrians sign, by the way.

Come to Ann Arbor.  You will see them everywhere.  Pedestrians are special there.  The text-messaging generation has the right-of-way at all times.  They are not required to look before stepping out into the street.  Drivers, on the other hand, must STOP mid-block on the busiest 45-mph roadways if a pedestrian even LOOKS like he/she might be THINKING about crossing the street sometime in the next week to ten days.

I got a ticket once in New Hampshire for failing to yield to a pedestrian who was crossing a 4 lane road when I was in the far right lane and thus in no danger of remotely coming close to him. The officer told me that I am to stop the minute that the pedestrian gets onto the roadway, no matter where I happen to be.

I should've challenged that ticket.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on March 14, 2015, 01:34:18 PM
Having the right of way is not an American legal concept. There are scenarios in which the law requires pedestrians to yield to drivers. There are scenarios in which drivers must yield to pedestrians. Sometimes those two overlap. But traffic laws don't say "You have the right to go ahead." Even laws about green lights include the word "caution" and waiting for traffic to clear before proceeding.

And so a freeway's prohibiting pedestrian traffic may seem like it allows a driver to not yield to errant pedestrians, but such rights are not granted to drivers by law, regardless of the type of road they are on.

I've only ever seen a Yield to Pedestrians sign, never a Stop for Pedestrians sign, by the way.

Come to Ann Arbor.  You will see them everywhere.  Pedestrians are special there.  The text-messaging generation has the right-of-way at all times.  They are not required to look before stepping out into the street.  Drivers, on the other hand, must STOP mid-block on the busiest 45-mph roadways if a pedestrian even LOOKS like he/she might be THINKING about crossing the street sometime in the next week to ten days.

It comes down to the wording of the law.  Many states have 'Yield to Pedestrians'.  Some states have 'Stop for Pedestrians'.  Personally, the differences between the two are pretty vague.  If you see someone walking in a crosswalk, you wait for them to cross. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Stratuscaster on March 14, 2015, 03:06:44 PM
If you see someone walking in a crosswalk, you wait for them to cross. 
Goes both ways. Would be nice for pedestrians to pay attention to the crosswalk signals - even nicer if they would follow them.

It's a team sport, not an individual competition.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 14, 2015, 03:26:13 PM
It's a team sport, not an individual competition.

I think I agree, the only problem being that one team is full of big players who are powerful and fast, and the other team is weak and slow.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Stratuscaster on March 14, 2015, 03:44:36 PM
It's a team sport, not an individual competition.

I think I agree, the only problem being that one team is full of big players who are powerful and fast, and the other team is weak and slow.
In other words, just like high school. ;)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on March 14, 2015, 04:09:28 PM
If you see someone walking in a crosswalk, you wait for them to cross. 
Goes both ways. Would be nice for pedestrians to pay attention to the crosswalk signals - even nicer if they would follow them.

It's a team sport, not an individual competition.

Sigh...

Going back to the context of my response, which was more than that one line, in a mid-block or other location where one could normally expect to see a Yield To/Stop For Pedestrian sign, one should wait for the Ped. 

Yes, both should pay attention. Very annoying when the Ped crosses on a don't walk signal, then gets in a car and fails to yield to other pedestrians.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Stratuscaster on March 14, 2015, 05:42:39 PM
Agreed. Didn't mean to go out of text or generate confusion.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on March 14, 2015, 08:56:21 PM
Not a real sign, but I found this in a local school. I have to wonder how a 3DI for I-π would signed. Maybe I-(x00+π), where x was a number between 1 and 9?
Also, what font does it use?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t31.0-8/11043250_1803644363194417_6712138769287635251_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on March 14, 2015, 09:23:35 PM
Beltways can just be signed as "dπ"

Mapmikey
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on March 14, 2015, 09:35:26 PM
I'm of the opinion that one should be able to blow on through as long as they would not conflict with the pedestrian legally crossing the street (in a crosswalk and not against a don't walk signal).  If the conflict does exist, one should only need to take the minimal action (slowing down, changing lanes, stopping, etc.) necessary to avert the conflict.

I was in Baltimore today, and there are seriously those who walk into traffic willy nilly as if cars don't exist.  I would expect that, by and large, THESE are the pedestrians that tend to get hit.  Why anyone has sympathy for them is beyond me.  If they want to win a Darwin Award, so be it, but don't make my life inconvenient just to accommodate their arrogance and stupidity.

It offends me when people carry out their lives with no regard for how their actions affect others.  I strive to make it so that my actions in life don't so much as inconvenience another person (well, another person who isn't a a-hole, at least).  I'm not perfect (and I do feel guilty when I don't meet my high standards that I set for both myself and the rest of humanity), but that's what I strive for.  Unfortunately, it seems I'm the only one with that goal.  If we were all more respectful of how we affect others, not only would traffic congestion be a thing of the past, but the world would be a better place.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TheHighwayMan394 on March 14, 2015, 10:25:57 PM
If you feel you have a chance to cross when it's not your turn and there's no traffic I can deal with that...except that I expect you to hustle your way across the street. I've had the experience of having to slow down for a guy crossing on a red who was taking his sweet time in doing so, and he certainly appeared capable of picking up the speed but simply chose not to.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on March 14, 2015, 10:41:33 PM
Not a real sign, but I found this in a local school. I have to wonder how a 3DI for I-π would signed. Maybe I-(x00+π), where x was a number between 1 and 9?
Also, what font does it use?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t31.0-8/11043250_1803644363194417_6712138769287635251_o.jpg)

That font, my friend is Arial. Notice the capital R when comparing with Helvetica is "spread out" compared to the Helvetica R.

And, because it's pi day:

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b551/slik_sh00ter/Math%20Territory_zpsf4sdfhq4.png)

Used Series E with EM spacing for this one.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on March 14, 2015, 10:42:54 PM
Not a real sign, but I found this in a local school. I have to wonder how a 3DI for I-π would signed. Maybe I-(x00+π), where x was a number between 1 and 9?
Also, what font does it use?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t31.0-8/11043250_1803644363194417_6712138769287635251_o.jpg)

The latin-alphabet letters are Arial.  The letter π could be from any number of fonts, but my hunch is it's some easy-to-type letter in the font Symbol.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on March 14, 2015, 10:59:43 PM
Couldn't resist (inspired by SignGeek101's sign, but my own twist):

(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag88/Zeffyboy/Signs/HappyPiDay_zps1ra9onfs.png)

It's fairly obvious, but if you read it from top to bottom, left to right, you'll get... yeah, you guessed it. Pity there's nowhere in the actual United States where these three routes meet.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on March 14, 2015, 11:17:32 PM
If we were all more respectful of how we affect others, not only would traffic congestion be a thing of the past, but the world would be a better place.
You're right about this. Global warming's effects on civilization and its future would lead enough people to stop driving that we wouldn't have any congestion.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on March 15, 2015, 12:02:09 AM
One way or another, eventually people will stop driving cars and there will be no traffic.  Eventually.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on March 15, 2015, 01:33:38 AM
The latin-alphabet letters are Arial.  The letter π could be from any number of fonts, but my hunch is it's some easy-to-type letter in the font Symbol.

I'm going to assume you meant the Greek letter "pi" (in the interstate shield)...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on March 15, 2015, 03:29:12 AM
The latin-alphabet letters are Arial.  The letter π could be from any number of fonts, but my hunch is it's some easy-to-type letter in the font Symbol.

I'm going to assume you meant the Greek letter "pi" (in the interstate shield)...

Is there any other letter π on the sign?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 15, 2015, 04:09:27 AM
The latin-alphabet letters are Arial.  The letter π could be from any number of fonts, but my hunch is it's some easy-to-type letter in the font Symbol.

I'm going to assume you meant the Greek letter "pi" (in the interstate shield)...

Is there any other letter π on the sign?

I would appear that internet fonts don't support the more detailed form of pi.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on March 15, 2015, 06:39:49 AM
One way or another, eventually people will stop driving cars and there will be no traffic.  Eventually.

Pardon me while I laugh my ass off.  Traffic was here before the automobile, and it will be here even if the automobile were to go away.  Ever see pictures of New York or London in the 19th century?  It's just as crowded as today.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on March 15, 2015, 08:45:47 AM
If we were all more respectful of how we affect others, not only would traffic congestion be a thing of the past, but the world would be a better place.
You're right about this. Global warming's effects on civilization and its future would lead enough people to stop driving that we wouldn't have any congestion.
Ever hear of solar power?  Or all electric cars?  Technology is improving, and I expect that a combination of solar, wind, and better batteries could easily eliminate our use of fossil fuels within a couple decades, if only we would put our research money into that instead of finding ever more difficult places to get oil.  I hate it when environmentalists refuse to acknowledge it.  It's like shooting yourself in the foot.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on March 15, 2015, 10:16:48 AM
If we switched to all clean power, electric cars would be a reasonable way to go for some trips. But (a) a simple switch to electric cars without changing the method of electricity generation just shifts the pollution source and (b) fuel isn't the only environmental impact of driving.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on March 15, 2015, 04:47:02 PM
The latin-alphabet letters are Arial.  The letter π could be from any number of fonts, but my hunch is it's some easy-to-type letter in the font Symbol.

I'm going to assume you meant the Greek letter "pi" (in the interstate shield)...

Is there any other letter π on the sign?

I would appear that internet fonts don't support the more detailed form of pi.

When I posted originally, i was using Chrome on my iPad, and it definitely looked like the letter "n" was used.

Posting now from Firefox on a Windows desktop, it is obvious that a "pi" was typed. My apologies.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on March 15, 2015, 07:04:29 PM
This is one way to post an arrow pointing to the right:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7614/16827526725_cf323e2c69.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rCZtr8)To I-565 (https://flic.kr/p/rCZtr8) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on March 15, 2015, 08:43:54 PM
It would appear that internet fonts don't support the more detailed form of pi.

It's a matter of typography. In most sans-serif fonts, a lowercase pi is fairly simple and looks like a boxy lowercase en, because that's typical of sans-serif Greek text. The mathematical symbol, like almost everything else in math, is traditionally printed in a serif font.



One way or another, eventually people will stop driving cars and there will be no traffic.  Eventually.

Pardon me while I laugh my ass off.  Traffic was here before the automobile, and it will be here even if the automobile were to go away.  Ever see pictures of New York or London in the 19th century?  It's just as crowded as today.

Eventually. You're not thinking far enough ahead. (Ever see pictures of New York from 100,000 BC?)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: The Nature Boy on March 15, 2015, 08:49:09 PM
I have it on good word that this is a picture of New York in 65 million BC:

(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/naturelibrary/images/ic/credit/640x395/s/sa/saurischia/saurischia_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 15, 2015, 09:25:00 PM
It would appear that internet fonts don't support the more detailed form of pi.

It's a matter of typography. In most sans-serif fonts, a lowercase pi is fairly simple and looks like a boxy lowercase en, because that's typical of sans-serif Greek text. The mathematical symbol, like almost everything else in math, is traditionally printed in a serif font.

(http://i.imgur.com/0gONc.gif)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on March 16, 2015, 12:41:28 PM
Obviously a greenout problem where indicated. Sure looks weird when you encounter it on the road.

(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c378/1995hoo/Road%20sign%20pictures/Weird%20greenout%20Springfield_zps1vzr3jy9.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on March 18, 2015, 05:01:49 PM
Evidently, this used to be a CR 642 sign before Mercer County decided to stick new numbers over it.
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.214989,-74.622287,3a,15y,11.57h,99.3t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1seN5Bzl91KhTfOk2PBBSFcw!2e0

It's also a white-on-blue county route shield, something that Somerset County does more often than the other New Jersey counties.

Also, there's a sign at the intersection on US 130 that uses Trenton as a control city for CR 526 west. I'm assuming that was because it dumps onto NJ 33 anyway? Still, you could've just turned at the intersection for 33 west which was literally the previous intersection before the CR 526 one. Kind of odd.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on March 19, 2015, 10:30:07 PM
Yes, the shield says CR 12, in New Jersey.  Found on NJ 67.
(http://nysroads.com/images/gallery/NJ/nj67/101_1570-s.JPG)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on March 19, 2015, 10:32:03 PM
^ Bergen County, along with Monmouth County, does not use the standard 5xx and 6xx/7xx county numbering system that the rest of the state does. No idea why.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on March 19, 2015, 10:46:35 PM
Yes, the shield says CR 12, in New Jersey.  Found on NJ 67.
(http://nysroads.com/images/gallery/NJ/nj67/101_1570-s.JPG)
Off topic, but the signal setup seems odd.  Why would there be an optically-protected left turn signal on what appears to be a one-way street?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: spooky on March 20, 2015, 07:05:38 AM
Yes, the shield says CR 12, in New Jersey.  Found on NJ 67.
(http://nysroads.com/images/gallery/NJ/nj67/101_1570-s.JPG)
Off topic, but the signal setup seems odd.  Why would there be an optically-protected left turn signal on what appears to be a one-way street?

I'm thinking it has to do with a concurrent pedestrian crossing.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on March 20, 2015, 10:15:46 AM
Yes, the shield says CR 12, in New Jersey.  Found on NJ 67.
(http://nysroads.com/images/gallery/NJ/nj67/101_1570-s.JPG)
Off topic, but the signal setup seems odd.  Why would there be an optically-protected left turn signal on what appears to be a one-way street?

I'm thinking it has to do with a concurrent pedestrian crossing.

It appears they went with optically protected heads here rather than arrows.  Just an old-style setup more than anything most likely.  A larger view of the intersection is here: http://goo.gl/maps/5cdvr

Different subject matter:  On a nearby intersection, recently installed inverted T signals are shown on GSV(http://goo.gl/maps/aQmOS):

     R
     Y
G<-  G
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on March 20, 2015, 10:29:13 AM
^^ That makes sense now with the closely-spaced intersection to oncoming traffic.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on March 21, 2015, 12:51:12 AM
http://goo.gl/maps/T4rbc

If you can't read it, the sign says "Right turn on red" and on the sign below it "After dead stop".

Never seen anything like this before.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on March 23, 2015, 12:44:04 PM
http://goo.gl/maps/T4rbc

If you can't read it, the sign says "Right turn on red" and on the sign below it "After dead stop".

Never seen anything like this before.
Conceptually, such isn't as unusual as one would think.  Even in areas where ROR is legal, similar-type signage (http://goo.gl/maps/bN7gF) has been posted in areas where the emphasis on stopping first prior to proceeding is needed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on March 23, 2015, 01:02:32 PM
Surviving 70s-era BGS with small button-copy I-shields containing Series D numerals (http://goo.gl/maps/l2Jzk) (most button-copy 2dI-shields are typically in Series E).

90s-era BGS with similar small button-copy I-shields containing similar Series D numerals (http://goo.gl/maps/c7PWT)  Not sure whether or not this one was recently replaced as part of the I-95 resigning project that took place some time back.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on March 24, 2015, 12:06:03 AM
My friend showed this to me. Supposedly it's in Kansas City, Missouri, but I haven't been able to locate it.

(http://i.imgur.com/PWIvfqq.jpg)

Also, that is one ugly uni-sign for the NO PARKING and the 2 HOUR PARKING sign. The border isn't even cut right. Sloppy job.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on March 24, 2015, 02:00:44 PM
Regarding the bottom side: I'm really curious what they were thinking.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on March 25, 2015, 04:08:02 PM
Marlborough, Massachusetts:
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.34718,-71.545782,3a,15y,314.27h,84.71t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1skphBdQlhtb3WxHIs4Dn0zQ!2e0

Definitely a county route pentagon, but not used like you would think it would be...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on March 25, 2015, 09:44:50 PM
Spotted this on the UNA campus today:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7613/16724337227_be9255fa44.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rtSAMR)Handi-capped Crossing (https://flic.kr/p/rtSAMR) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8738/16743988718_37d974a64f.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rvBjuE)Handi-capped Crossing (https://flic.kr/p/rvBjuE) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

Never seen the word "red" written in red on one of these signs before:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7625/16930408622_8649b86c21.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rN5LCW)No Turn On Red (https://flic.kr/p/rN5LCW) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

This one's somewhat interesting to me:
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8684/16745460699_9fc756f06c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rvJS4D)Interesting Sign (https://flic.kr/p/rvJS4D) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on March 26, 2015, 12:11:33 AM
Spotted this on the UNA campus today:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7613/16724337227_be9255fa44.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rtSAMR)Handi-capped Crossing (https://flic.kr/p/rtSAMR) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

Doesn't look like there's a ramp there.  How many wheelchairs go over that curb each day?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on March 26, 2015, 01:31:56 AM
Spotted this on the UNA campus today:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7613/16724337227_be9255fa44.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rtSAMR)Handi-capped Crossing (https://flic.kr/p/rtSAMR) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

Doesn't look like there's a ramp there.  How many wheelchairs go over that curb each day?

Could be a warning of a crossing further downstream of the sign
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: busman_49 on March 26, 2015, 08:34:23 AM
Washington Court House, OH, last spotted in 2008:
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3711/11940407476_d65bb18f42.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/jc8H9q)028CongestedAreaColsWillardWashCH_1108 (https://flic.kr/p/jc8H9q) by Ryan busman_49 (https://www.flickr.com/people/23731450@N05/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on March 26, 2015, 10:59:30 AM
Washington Court House, OH, last spotted in 2008:
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3711/11940407476_d65bb18f42.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/jc8H9q)028CongestedAreaColsWillardWashCH_1108 (https://flic.kr/p/jc8H9q) by Ryan busman_49 (https://www.flickr.com/people/23731450@N05/), on Flickr

"Congested Area" warnings can be found on some interstates as well, especially in areas where congestion in an otherwise rural area that may have a significant amount of out-of-state drivers just travelling thru.

Personally, this should be on all "Welcome to New Jersey" signs...not the 1950's postcard!  :-D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bzakharin on March 26, 2015, 02:38:11 PM
"Congested Area" warnings can be found on some interstates as well, especially in areas where congestion in an otherwise rural area that may have a significant amount of out-of-state drivers just travelling thru.

Personally, this should be on all "Welcome to New Jersey" signs...not the 1950's postcard!  :-D
Hey, now, the only places where the entrance to NJ leads to a congested area are coming from even more congested areas
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on March 27, 2015, 09:08:10 PM
OK.....I realize this is a bike path and not a road.

But watch the video. I rate this as one of the most unique signs of which I'm aware and I pity the people who have to deal with this shit (literally).

http://link.fox8.com/1BABXI7
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on March 27, 2015, 11:55:37 PM
These BGSes have some small shields:
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8693/16763719668_16b7911997.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rxmrPs)US 31/US 72 Alt./AL 20 (https://flic.kr/p/rxmrPs) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on March 30, 2015, 05:26:45 PM
How about this sign warning area motorists on US 1 & 9 in Elizabeth of the Pulaski Skyway closing.
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.673888,-74.199786,3a,75y,37.62h,81.64t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1ssGbR4ZS86EfBAKqDt7VBsQ!2e0

I find the shield on this sign to be as interesting as the latest 1&9 thing.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on March 30, 2015, 09:47:50 PM
Here's an interesting one that went up here in Huntsville, AL recently:
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8723/16796945348_1b2b466399.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rAhJE1)Odd U-turn Arrow on a Logo Sign (https://flic.kr/p/rAhJE1) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7631/16364581353_ca5a60bc03.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qW5KUn)Odd U-turn Arrow on a Logo Sign (https://flic.kr/p/qW5KUn) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7587/16958725016_de29314393.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rQzU7C)Odd U-turn Arrow on a Logo Sign (https://flic.kr/p/rQzU7C) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7637/16777288707_51a4ba3b1c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ryxZqp)Odd U-turn Arrow on a Logo Sign (https://flic.kr/p/ryxZqp) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

The reason I'm posting it here is because I'm not sure if it actually qualifies for "worst of", but it's certainly close.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 31, 2015, 12:15:23 AM
Here's an interesting one that went up here in Huntsville, AL recently:

The reason I'm posting it here is because I'm not sure if it actually qualifies for "worst of", but it's certainly close.


Looks like a first grader cut out that arrow -- no, pre-schooler.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on March 31, 2015, 10:39:12 AM
Here's an interesting one that went up here in Huntsville, AL recently:

The reason I'm posting it here is because I'm not sure if it actually qualifies for "worst of", but it's certainly close.


Looks like a first grader cut out that arrow -- no, pre-schooler.

...with left-handed safety scissors!!   :bigass:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on March 31, 2015, 11:00:16 AM
^^ Also unusual there's no border on that U-turn sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on March 31, 2015, 11:54:16 AM
^^ Also unusual there's no border on that U-turn sign.

Kid was running with scissors and had them taken away.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on March 31, 2015, 12:00:35 PM
So, would it qualify as "worst of" or?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on March 31, 2015, 12:27:17 PM
So, would it qualify as "worst of" or?

It certainly qualifies for the bad and the ugly.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on March 31, 2015, 10:45:58 PM
https://www.google.ca/maps/@44.366919,-92.035479,3a,15y,297.33h,89.11t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s9U3J6Hw3NJN0v9Ro1eJ3eA!2e0

Interesting because you are already in Minnesota, and they choose to use Minnesota as a destination. Also, what's that symbol / shield / insignia under both of the legends?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TheHighwayMan394 on March 31, 2015, 10:49:44 PM
https://www.google.ca/maps/@44.366919,-92.035479,3a,15y,297.33h,89.11t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s9U3J6Hw3NJN0v9Ro1eJ3eA!2e0

Interesting because you are already in Minnesota, and they choose to use Minnesota as a destination. Also, what's that symbol / shield / insignia under both of the legends?

That's the Great River Road shield posted along routes following along the Mississippi River. My guess is that you are approaching the Great River Road route, and can either follow it into Wisconsin or follow it as it enters Minnesota.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 31, 2015, 10:50:39 PM
Great River Road.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: steviep24 on April 03, 2015, 06:42:13 PM
State named Interstate shield for I 490 in Rochester, NY
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.173935,-77.732371,3a,15y,193.27h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s_g8AhX4J91jQ8WPPnlz9bA!2e0!6m1!1e1?hl=en
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on April 05, 2015, 10:30:54 AM
I finally got a photo of one of the two neutered stand-alone I-565 shields on I-565 back during Spring Break:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7665/16419554604_22f7b12d3c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/r1Wvx3)Neutered I-565 Sheild (https://flic.kr/p/r1Wvx3) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on April 05, 2015, 11:49:45 AM
Not erroneous, not bad bad, but just very poorly laid out (IL-47, Yorkville, IL):

(http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz298/midamcrossrds/100_5310_zpsoxfpecuf.jpg) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_5310_zpsoxfpecuf.jpg.html)

For clarification, it's "Silver Springs State Park" and the "Hoover Center" (owned by the Kendall County Forest Preserve District).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on April 05, 2015, 11:45:18 PM
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8658/16608924392_eabfa5b086_b.jpg)

Not my pic. Monotype Corsiva, really? It's not North American, but still, I rather see Helvetica.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on April 06, 2015, 07:31:06 AM
I have joked about that font actually being on a sign before, but I guess anything is possible when you go outside the USA.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on April 06, 2015, 05:17:34 PM
I'm putting these here because I have no idea what it's trying to convey. I-75/I-96 in Detroit:

https://www.google.ca/maps/@42.315852,-83.085049,3a,17.6y,78.68h,92.39t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sFXenJSkeGFwv0-Hh0iLFjg!2e0
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on April 06, 2015, 05:28:52 PM
Odd of MDOT to make a sign that poor, I assume its trying to say this ramp is the last USA one? I don't really know.  :confused:

EDIT: Actually if you look at what exit it is it means This ramp is exiting or leaving the USA. It is poorly worded, but if you see the whole picture it makes more sense.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bzakharin on April 06, 2015, 05:37:24 PM
Odd of MDOT to make a sign that poor, I assume its trying to say this ramp is the last USA one? I don't really know.  :confused:

EDIT: Actually if you look at what exit it is it means This ramp is exiting or leaving the USA. It is poorly worded, but if you see the whole picture it makes more sense.
I think it's the opposite. What part of "ramp must exit USA" is poorly worded? "No re-entry to USA" is however incorrect. Re-entry by its very nature requires one to leave first, so unless Canada arrests you or something, you can re-enter USA.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on April 06, 2015, 05:39:23 PM
Odd of MDOT to make a sign that poor, I assume its trying to say this ramp is the last USA one? I don't really know.  :confused:

EDIT: Actually if you look at what exit it is it means This ramp is exiting or leaving the USA. It is poorly worded, but if you see the whole picture it makes more sense.
I think it's the opposite. What part of "ramp must exit USA" is poorly worded? "No re-entry to USA" is however incorrect. Re-entry by its very nature requires one to leave first, so unless Canada arrests you or something, you can re-enter USA.
Despite it being more incorrect, I think at first glance the sign "RAMP MUST EXIT USA" is more confusing.

I'd prefer "NO USA ACCESS THIS EXIT" or something like that.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on April 06, 2015, 05:40:01 PM
I think it's the opposite. What part of "ramp must exit USA" is poorly worded? "No re-entry to USA" is however incorrect. Re-entry by its very nature requires one to leave first, so unless Canada arrests you or something, you can re-enter USA.

The USA part being in larger text threw me off - now I see it's a continuous phrase.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on April 06, 2015, 05:45:28 PM
I would refer "Ramp to Canada only"
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 06, 2015, 06:12:11 PM
How about "Border Crossing Ahead"?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on April 06, 2015, 11:24:13 PM
CANADA ONLY

Simple, factual, and unmistakeable.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on April 07, 2015, 12:11:25 AM
Am I the only person here who remembers when Class 3 Object Markers were both black and yellow, and black and white? I believe FDOT still painted up the pylons of bridges in the same colors as recently as the 2000's.

I wish I had a picture of one.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: renegade on April 08, 2015, 02:15:48 AM
I'm putting these here because I have no idea what it's trying to convey. I-75/I-96 in Detroit:

https://www.google.ca/maps/@42.315852,-83.085049,3a,17.6y,78.68h,92.39t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sFXenJSkeGFwv0-Hh0iLFjg!2e0

That ramp goes directly to the Ambassador Bridge.  There is absolutely NO place to turn around after you pass the gore point.  You MUST go through customs in Canada, explain how you messed up, then turn around and go back to Detroit, and explain to the Border Patrol how you messed up.  Plan on a delightful minimum of three hours.  If you take that ramp without intending to go to Canada, you'll quickly learn exactly what that sign is trying to say.

Don't ask how I know about this, just understand that I do.   :bigass:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 09, 2015, 07:18:50 PM
Everyone knows about the purple guide signs along the Westpark Tollway in Houston, right? I haven't seen them discussed before. I think they're pretty unique.

(http://i.imgur.com/g3FciVr.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: riiga on April 09, 2015, 07:24:05 PM
They look quite nice I think.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on April 09, 2015, 09:56:32 PM
They look quite nice I think.

I agree. Wouldn't mind it being in the MUTCD for Collector signs on Express / Collector freeways, instead of what they do now.

I'm sure I have commented on this before, but I've always liked the convention of using the blue signs over the collector lanes and the green signs over the express lanes (on the 401 in Toronto). I think it makes more sense than the MUTCD system of using the same color for all guide signs and then mandating extra banners on top of the signs to ensure the dumbest drivers out there understand that a sign over a different carriageway is directed at people on that carriageway.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: signalman on April 10, 2015, 04:13:26 AM
Everyone knows about the purple guide signs along the Westpark Tollway in Houston, right? I haven't seen them discussed before. I think they're pretty unique.

(http://i.imgur.com/g3FciVr.jpg)
Whoa!  I wasn't aware of those.  Those are definitely unique.  I assume you found them messing around in GSV?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 10, 2015, 04:46:34 AM
Everyone knows about the purple guide signs along the Westpark Tollway in Houston, right? I haven't seen them discussed before. I think they're pretty unique.

Whoa!  I wasn't aware of those.  Those are definitely unique.  I assume you found them messing around in GSV?

Actually took it myself. I was going from West Houston to the Galleria, and Google Maps directed me to use it. Thankfully I had a tolltag in my rental.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on April 12, 2015, 10:07:44 AM
A "cutout" DO NOT ENTER sign in Jersey City:

https://www.google.ca/maps/@40.756285,-74.045263,3a,15y,162.9h,88.13t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sMDrRG3Jivsp5Ni_TzZtoZQ!2e0
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: riiga on April 12, 2015, 10:18:01 AM
^ Just like in Europe.  :-P
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: renegade on April 12, 2015, 11:19:13 AM
I recalled reading that a STOP sign must "present" as eight-sided from the front.  A square sign mounted behind one, facing the other direction would prevent that.  A cutout would solve that issue, I guess ...  :hmmm:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on April 12, 2015, 11:22:24 AM
Everyone knows about the purple guide signs along the Westpark Tollway in Houston, right? I haven't seen them discussed before. I think they're pretty unique.

HCTRA applied for permission for them from FHWA in 2003.  At that time I think the Westpark Tollway was either the very first or one of the first ETC-only toll roads in the US.  IIRC, it was denied on the grounds that the purple should be narrowly tailored to electronic tolling messages, but HCTRA went ahead and put them up anyway.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on April 12, 2015, 12:00:31 PM
I recalled reading that a STOP sign must "present" as eight-sided from the front.  A square sign mounted behind one, facing the other direction would prevent that.  A cutout would solve that issue, I guess ...  :hmmm:
Wisconsin uses an octagonal do not enter sign in that situation.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 12, 2015, 12:23:17 PM
I recalled reading that a STOP sign must "present" as eight-sided from the front.  A square sign mounted behind one, facing the other direction would prevent that.  A cutout would solve that issue, I guess ...  :hmmm:

Wisconsin uses an octagonal do not enter sign in that situation.

Washington seems to just put the do not enter sign somewhere else.

Is there anything wrong with a cut-out do not enter sign? Is that prohibited somewhere?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on April 12, 2015, 12:56:35 PM
If you don't know whether a side street has a stop sign, you'll be more cautious if anything.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on April 12, 2015, 01:38:17 PM
Found this on Tumblr:
(http://41.media.tumblr.com/11f9f49918315d678081283b52e2f0bf/tumblr_nmoo42Kw6t1rpj3m6o1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on April 12, 2015, 04:27:16 PM
I recalled reading that a STOP sign must "present" as eight-sided from the front.  A square sign mounted behind one, facing the other direction would prevent that.  A cutout would solve that issue, I guess ...  :hmmm:

Wisconsin uses an octagonal do not enter sign in that situation.

Washington seems to just put the do not enter sign somewhere else.

Is there anything wrong with a cut-out do not enter sign? Is that prohibited somewhere?

I don't think there is anything preventing using a cut-out sign for this purpose. It's not standard, but the relevant aspect of the sign still meets the standard regulatory design.

As of the 2009 MUTCD, it is prohibited to put another sign (such as the Do Not Enter) on the back of a stop sign, if that sign would obscure the shape of the stop sign from the opposite direction (so drivers passing from other sides of the intersection can interpret that there is a stop sign on that approach). The manual recommends reducing the size of the second sign or increasing the size of the stop sign to compensate. I would imagine using a cutout of a Do Not Enter meets with this intent.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on April 13, 2015, 09:58:59 PM
Everyone knows about the purple guide signs along the Westpark Tollway in Houston, right? I haven't seen them discussed before. I think they're pretty unique.

(http://i.imgur.com/g3FciVr.jpg)
Unique, yes. But still ugly. It looks like something you see from staring into the sun too long.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on April 13, 2015, 10:19:01 PM
Everyone knows about the purple guide signs along the Westpark Tollway in Houston, right? I haven't seen them discussed before. I think they're pretty unique.

(http://i.imgur.com/g3FciVr.jpg)
Unique, yes. But still ugly. It looks like something you see from staring into the sun too long.
Agreed.  Prefer the green signs with a purple tab to denote toll roads.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on April 13, 2015, 11:23:44 PM
Everyone knows about the purple guide signs along the Westpark Tollway in Houston, right? I haven't seen them discussed before. I think they're pretty unique.

(http://i.imgur.com/g3FciVr.jpg)
Unique, yes. But still ugly. It looks like something you see from staring into the sun too long.

I was going to say it looks like the video cable has come partway loose from the computer.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: signalman on April 14, 2015, 04:19:51 AM
^I'm probably in the minority here, but opinions are like assholes.  Personally, I like the purple signs for toll roads.  However, I wonder how well they can can be read in bad weather or at night.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on April 14, 2015, 01:30:51 PM
I wonder how well they can can be read in bad weather or at night.
Why would a purple sign be less readable than a green sign?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on April 14, 2015, 03:35:13 PM
Different color combinations.  Green is used for guide signs in the US because a study conducted in preparation for the interstate highway system where drivers drove around a test track found that green was the most readable, beating out blue and black.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on April 14, 2015, 03:44:42 PM
^I'm probably in the minority here, but opinions are like assholes.  Personally, I like the purple signs for toll roads.  However, I wonder how well they can can be read in bad weather or at night.

Purple is my favorite color, so you can imagine that I like these signs as well. You'd be correct.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: signalman on April 14, 2015, 04:30:18 PM
Why would a purple sign be less readable than a green sign?
Like Valerie pointed out, the color combinations involved.  Here in the Northeast, purple is used to denote EZ Pass only lanes (interchanges too, for the PA Turnpike).  From personal experience, at night or inclement weather, I can attest to the white on purple not being too easy to read.  I know it's EZ Pass only, but it isn't easily readable from a distance.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: authenticroadgeek on April 14, 2015, 08:34:45 PM
Google Street View isn't updated to show this yet, but approaching the junction with UT-265 (University Parkway) on northbound US-89... It's confusing. When you approach the road northbound, instead of SR-265, the JCT sign says US-265. As first when I saw this, I was like: THEY'RE TURNING UNIVERSITY INTO A US ROUTE?! But then I turned left, and the reassurance sign said SR-265.

 :poke:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mapman1071 on April 15, 2015, 12:52:06 AM
Everyone knows about the purple guide signs along the Westpark Tollway in Houston, right? I haven't seen them discussed before. I think they're pretty unique.

(http://i.imgur.com/g3FciVr.jpg)
Unique, yes. But still ugly. It looks like something you see from staring into the sun too long.

I was going to say it looks like the video cable has come partway loose from the computer.


Walt Disney World Uses White on Purple for there signs?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mr. Matté on April 18, 2015, 05:03:27 PM
Hungry hungry tree:
(http://i.imgur.com/twCzCAi.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kacie Jane on April 20, 2015, 05:04:31 PM
Watch out for.......???  Hungry trees???
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on April 20, 2015, 07:01:21 PM
Hungry hungry tree:
(http://i.imgur.com/twCzCAi.jpg?1)

How does that even happen? I know that sign is old, but still, it's just amazing to me. Nature I guess..  :clap:

Maybe in 50 -100 years when the tree dies, the old sign will remain   :)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on April 21, 2015, 07:25:03 PM
Maybe in 50 -100 years when the tree dies, the old sign will remain   :)

More likely someone will cut it down, begin carving it into firewood and receive a really nasty surprise.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kacie Jane on April 22, 2015, 01:31:17 PM
Maybe in 50 -100 years when the tree dies, the old sign will remain   :)

More likely someone will cut it down, begin carving it into firewood and receive a really nasty surprise.

Perhaps nasty... unless said person is a member of our fair hobby.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 22, 2015, 02:35:56 PM
Usually the "dead end" sign is posted on the other side of the street in a diamond.

I know there are plenty of funny-cut signs on this site, I'm just not used to seeing any IRL.

(http://i.imgur.com/rj0lfq5.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on April 22, 2015, 02:55:29 PM
Here's an interesting one in Selma, AL:
http://www.instantstreetview.com/@32.411128,-87.005517,-329.91h,-10.49p,4z
EDIT: Changed link.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on April 23, 2015, 09:42:15 PM
Found an odd green-on-white Ohio route shield today:

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8818/17224421556_2567d2169d_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on April 28, 2015, 03:20:39 PM
Found a couple of these last week in the Irvington neighborhood of Indianapolis:
(http://vidthekid.info/imghost/weird-font-indy.jpeg)

One of them was on westbound Washington Street just past Shadeland; this one was on eastbound Washington just past Johnson Avenue.  I didn't think to look for a sticker on the back.  Anyway, does this odd font have a name?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 01, 2015, 12:39:21 PM
Is this the normal "Narrow Bridge" sign? I always thought it was just text.

Tumwater, Washington, along Henderson Boulevard:

(http://i.imgur.com/9QvUeIr.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: riiga on May 01, 2015, 12:53:27 PM
Yup, W5-2a in the MUTCD, but removed in 2000 according to the description here (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MUTCD_W5-2a.svg).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on May 01, 2015, 12:56:35 PM
Is this the normal "Narrow Bridge" sign? I always thought it was just text.

Tumwater, Washington, along Henderson Boulevard:

(http://i.imgur.com/9QvUeIr.jpg)

Here's another one:

(http://www2.apwa.net/images/photolibrary/large/052-Narrow-Bridge-Warning-S.jpg)

I like it actually. Better than a text sign IMO. Not as good as the Canadian / European / Asian etc sign though:

(http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/traffic-control-devices-manual/sign-specifications/images/pw05-02-nolabels.gif)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on May 01, 2015, 02:17:57 PM
Here's a variation with a missing piece:
https://goo.gl/maps/zWJVG

SR 616 near Keswick, VA

Mapmikey
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 01, 2015, 02:23:34 PM
Yup, W5-2a in the MUTCD, but removed in 2000 according to the description here (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MUTCD_W5-2a.svg).

??? What the hell? It was in the Millenium Edition, but gone in 2003. You don't see symbols removed from the MUTCD everyday.

I like it actually. Better than a text sign IMO. Not as good as the Canadian / European / Asian etc sign though:

Very seldom do I prefer American signs to Canadian signs. The "double arrow" sign (W12-1) is one that I prefer, and I think this is the other. Both do a very good job, I just like the lane lines for some reason. Sort of like the Canadian passing lane signs.

Here's a variation with a missing piece:

I would imagine that the signs will slowly be replaced.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on May 01, 2015, 08:35:41 PM
I know of a bunch near me. I guess I should go out and photograph them!
I'm willing to bet it was removed from the MUTCD because they decided that it wasn't visible enough or something.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on May 01, 2015, 09:50:59 PM
When graphic signs first started replacing text signs, I often wondered why "Narrow Bridge" signs weren't originally included. I envisioned something that looked pretty much like what eventually was developed. There are still a few of the graphic signs in this area that haven't been replaced with text. So I guess what's old is new again.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Atomica on May 02, 2015, 12:29:23 AM
^ The Aggression and Extreme Prejudice Towards Others, Possibly Involving a Cardinal Direction; I tells 'ya.

Or, Armstrong Flower Fields in Carlsbad, California (https://www.google.com/maps?ll=33.122133,-117.316067&spn=0.01125,0.01929&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=33.122128,-117.315928&panoid=neK1pvJqMMXBrRZA8F7YIA&cbp=12,271.22,,0,1.5). The only time I've seen artwork to complement a couple of BGSs:

(http://www.formulanone.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/PalomarAirport-FlowerFieldBGS.jpg)

I have been known to experiment with artwork on signage myself, and think it could be helpful especially if handling a street or community named for a famous person, as in an historical figure or even a celebrity.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on May 02, 2015, 01:30:32 AM
(In discussion of purple-background guide signs on Westpark Tollway in Houston)

Different color combinations.  Green is used for guide signs in the US because a study conducted in preparation for the interstate highway system where drivers drove around a test track found that green was the most readable, beating out blue and black.

Actually, no.  Years ago I asked for a copy of the study and discovered it was a pure popularity contest.  Each of the three combinations was already being successfully used somewhere in the US at the time, and the test subjects were asked to rate the one they found most pleasing.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Atomica on May 02, 2015, 02:59:57 AM
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7150/6602560053_4c0e7a2b58_z_d.jpg)
Ugly fonts in Oklahoma


Good point:  I note the use of an old-type-looking font that someone suggested looked like a football jersey on the US sign - and the contractor's use of a new OK marker with Series E Modified numbers - which is a carryover from the old OK circle markers, which in the last 10 years of use, also used SEM numbers - which is also noted in my OWN avatar, which is, forgive me, a look at a NON-DIECUT California miners spade if Oklahomans made it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on May 02, 2015, 09:00:16 AM